Is Stamden the EASIEST PvP class?

KuroyukiESO

Here is a video I made from some PvP clips I got on stamden recently. Tbh, this class feels so easy to kill people on that I am not even using a spammable in my build. Am I alone on this one?
https://youtu.be/Yrww87RDEg0

Urzigurumash

I don't think Vampires should be allowed to use Dawnbreaker. It's not thematic.

It might not be fair to StamSorcs or StamPlars to disallow Vampires in the Fighter Guild, but it wasn't fair to Dark Cloak NBs and Dragonblood DKs to have HP Regen cut in half - which was, for years, the defensive counterbalance to Undeath.

KuroyukiESO

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I don't think Vampires should be allowed to use Dawnbreaker. It's not thematic.

It might not be fair to StamSorcs or StamPlars to disallow Vampires in the Fighter Guild, but it wasn't fair to Dark Cloak NBs and Dragonblood DKs to have HP Regen cut in half - which was, for years, the defensive counterbalance to Undeath.

I can agree so far as how unnecessary it was to cut HP regen on half. I prefer HP Regen over undeath any day, we just can't rely on it anymore. They needed to adjust the broken sets and not decimate HP Regen as a whole, but we all adjust.

KuroyukiESO

Cozzy1991 wrote: »

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I'm a pretty casual RPer myself 😌

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Urzigurumash

KuroyukiESO wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I don't think Vampires should be allowed to use Dawnbreaker. It's not thematic.

It might not be fair to StamSorcs or StamPlars to disallow Vampires in the Fighter Guild, but it wasn't fair to Dark Cloak NBs and Dragonblood DKs to have HP Regen cut in half - which was, for years, the defensive counterbalance to Undeath.

I can agree so far as how unnecessary it was to cut HP regen on half. I prefer HP Regen over undeath any day, we just can't rely on it anymore. They needed to adjust the broken sets and not decimate HP Regen as a whole, but we all adjust.

The results are in - for the strongest classes the disincentives to run Stage 3 Vampire aren't strong enough. I don't think any build running the Vamp Ult deserves a nerf, but the number of Stamp 3 Vamps out there flinging around "Meridia's Sacred Sword" is preposterous.

Theme/Lore should be respected to keep the ES in ESO PvP, it's part of what makes this game what it is.

PS: I have said on here before something like "Attempts to limit the power of Necro/Warden via nerfing non-class elements will probably only elevate the relative strength of some Necro/Warden class element". I think is generally sound logic, certainly seems to be true regarding HP Regen and Braided Tether, but it's hard to miss how much of StamWarden/Necro's power comes from Undeath+Dawnbreaker. I think it's fairly true however that Solo MagDen has a bit of trouble with "Emergency Self-Healing" that Undeath probably goes a long way to alleviate. On this subject I always thought HP Regen made sense with the old racial passives as a way to thematically represent the innate tankiness of Nords and Orcs, and how well it combined with Sorc/DK to help create the theme of a Nord/Orc Warrior, who typically wouldn't be schooled in Restoration.

Andre_Noir

it's not easiest - it's completely braindead

Larcomar

It's certainly a very well balanced class, it's got every thing you need. Easiest? Depends how you judge. Personally, I'd probably say magsorc, largely because you can jump straight in and do very well using skills that arn't that different from what you learned in pve; or stamblade, simply because cloak / shade gives you the chance to step back, look around and figure out what's going on without getting shot at, and to reset fights when you stuff it up and try again until you get it right. Its like having training wheels on.