Creating a Dark Lord Build

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Ranganok
Ranganok
Soul Shriven
Hello Everyone,

I have recently came back to the game, and I really wanted to create a Dark Lord Themed build. Basically It would be a Dark Elf/Necromancer/Vampire build. It would be tanky with a lot of self-heal and damage buffs/debuffs. Basically I want something that can be worthy of a Dark Lord: solo almost everything if not everything and can have both high survivability and high damage. And of course Vampire and Necromancers fit very well into the Dark Lord Theme. This is the build I have got so far: http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/49620/

I was thinking Summoner Armor for Pve and Hypnosys for PVP. As for the sets: Crimson Twilingth is a must. But the other ones put in there I am not really sure how or which to put them. For Pve I think War Machine would be best. For PVP I don't really know, maybe Twice-Fanged Serpent.

Any Insight and help would be very appreciated.
  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    Drain is not that useful, especially in PvP. For really casual PvE, you could probably use it for flavor. Consuming Trap or Necrotic Potency would probably be way more helpful while fitting the life-draining/soul reaping theme better, with Potency charging up your Scion ult faster. Vigor would be better for healing.

    You CAN use Crushing Weapon and Dizzying Swing together for PvP, but for it's not as helpful for PvE.

    I'd use the skeleton archer instead, since it scales with your Stamina and Weapon damage like your 2-handed skills. You usually want lots of DoTs for PvE, which increase both your sustain and your DPS.

    I would really try to fit blastbones on your frontbar, for PvE AND PvP. It's a super strong burst and DPS skill. You don't need the summoner armor as much if you're not using blastbones—the other morph pulls people to you, which is helpful for Scythe and Crimson Twilight.

    I'd also put your stun on frontbar for PvP (just a strong personal preference, so you can kill people more smoothly without bar swapping), and drop it for PvE, using an AoE DoT instead (Caltrops probably?).

    As far as PvE, it really depends on what you're trying to solo (world bosses/vet dungeons/solo arenas), and your playstyle & skill level. Even super squishy DPS can solo almost all world bosses with only heals-over-time. Reducing time-to-kill can help as much as being tankier. I've done Ri'Atahrashi solo with a 23k health PvP build, but I'm not super into soloing vet group dungeons. Vet Vateshran has DPS checks that make doing it on low-DPS builds hard to impossible.

    As far as monster sets and mythics, Ring of the Pale Order, Nerien'eth, and Kjalnar (big skeleton fist) would all be thematic, but Pale Order kinda screws over healers near you in PvP :~P The most Dark Lord-y set IMO is Grace of Gloom, which isn't that great, but turns you into a writhing black shadow when it procs: https://youtu.be/ODf5vxGCOPM (set has changed since that video, but the visuals are the same).
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  • Ranganok
    Ranganok
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    Thank you for your insight. I found it very helpful. As for a small clarification regarding the Sets: I am not looking for visual effects. I am looking for stats and bonuses more. After all I can always use outfit for looks. But as far as bonuses go, besides the Crimson Twilight which is good for self-heal, the other one would be for high DPS I guess.
  • Ranganok
    Ranganok
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    Ring of Pale order and Kjalnar are really good suggestions. They would work very well in PVP. Especially since I will have that simmering frenzy which doesn't let me be healed by anyone other than myself. And Kjalnar will work for further stuns.
  • Vevvev
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    Pale Order Ring works well in PvP when you are solo and alone. Keep in mind each grouped member reduces the healing of the damage you do by 4%, and then you have to take the remaining value and remove 55% of it because of Battle Spirit. If you're doing large scale PvP content I'd recommend the Death Dealer's Fete as it looks pretty cool and can fill the spot of the Pale Order Mythic. It boosts health, stamina, and magicka while in combat, takes 1 minute of combat to fully charge, and 2 minutes out of combat for the buff to fully fade away.

    And Drain is indeed worthless as tsaescishoeshiner pointed out. Only builds that can really use it are at 40k+ health, and even then the fact it can be interrupted and put on cooldown is a big issue. You would want to combine it with another heal if you truly wish to use it as it's a poor ability to completely rely on for personal healing.
    Edited by Vevvev on September 4, 2021 4:49PM
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • Stx
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    So first off, I would recommend two separate builds one for soloing pve and one for pvp, as those two settings require vastly different styles of combat.

    Second, are you wanting this to mainly be a stamina focused build? For a vampire necro dark lord build I would definitely go full magicka and then use the vampire spammable skill as it is quite powerful. You can still use whatever melee weapons you want, a two hander will work fine and suits a dark lord.
  • Stx
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    Also have you considered nightblade as a class instead of necro? Nightblade has a lot more health siphoning skills, while necro is more about raising the dead.
  • Vevvev
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    I actually took a look at your slotted skills and I'd change perfect Scion to Swarming Scion, and remove hypnosis completely unless you really really really really need a stun. Even then I'd go Stupefy unless you 1vX a lot and get hit from behind requiring the 360 degrees of Hypnosis. The snare and longer range of Stupefy would be better for you.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • Ranganok
    Ranganok
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    Stx wrote: »
    So first off, I would recommend two separate builds one for soloing pve and one for pvp, as those two settings require vastly different styles of combat.

    Second, are you wanting this to mainly be a stamina focused build? For a vampire necro dark lord build I would definitely go full magicka and then use the vampire spammable skill as it is quite powerful. You can still use whatever melee weapons you want, a two hander will work fine and suits a dark lord.

    I honestly don't really care. I mean i could go full magicka. My playstyle would be a spell blade. A hybrid. Use magicka for most spells and keep 1-2 stamina for attacks. I usually play tanky chars with life steals and lots of buffs/debuffs. But i have no preference between magicka and stamina. Give me your best.
  • Stx
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    If I wanted to make a dark lord type build but had to use a necro instead of a nightblade I would do something like this:

    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=380967

    If you absolutely want to use Crimson set, just replace Medusa pieces with it, but I really don't think the proc helps much compared to the extra crit from Medusa, it will boost your heals from damage and crit healing.
  • Ranganok
    Ranganok
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    Thank you for the insight. I do want to play necromancer. I know about nightblade, played it before, but it just doesn't feel the same like necro. + I love summoning XD.

    As for the set, yes I could see how Medusa would benefit. But wouldn't Medusa+Crimson work? And add the Death Dealer's Fete there too. What do you think?
  • Ranganok
    Ranganok
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    I have updated the build. What do you think about it now? Not only skills, but also champion points, and the sets.(I am not sure at enchantments for the armor and jewelry yet. Perhaps max Magicka or Magicka Regen? )

    https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/my-builds/edit/69674/
    Edited by Ranganok on September 6, 2021 12:06PM
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