Jewelry Plating

aussie500

Well RNG just hates me, I might get maybe 2 Chromium grains doing writs on 14 odd characters, although i stopped doing writs on most of them recently because for 2 days they got nothing at all gold in their writ rewards. I have slim chance of getting chromium grains while refining. 1 in 700 sounds about my rate, although I have refined a lot more and got none! I would prefer it if they let us get a better chance of getting a chromium plating in writ rewards, pretty sure some can still get them that way. And give us a chance of getting a chromium plating while refining raw materials or breaking down gold jewelry. Considering how many platings it takes to make gold jewelry, we should be getting a chromium plating back rather than just maybe a grain when we deconstruct them.

Ravensilver

I've stopped refining my raw jewelry mats (Platinum Dust) if I have less than 1k of them. Usually I farm until I have more. I was hoping to top off my Platinum dust today, so that I would reach 10k, but... maintenance. >.>

I've found that the more raw mats that I have to refine, the more likely I am to get the rare materials out of them. But maybe that's just me... ^^;;

Oreyn_Bearclaw

700 is a ridiculously small sample size. Not at all surprised that you would refine that many and get 0. I refine about 1k at a time fairly frequently. Sometimes I get 0, sometimes I get 8 or 9. 1 per 200 is pretty standard. What you did wasn't that far off from a coin landing on tails 3-4 times in a row. Unusual, perhaps, but not really all that shocking

If you want Chromium directly, well best way is crafting writs (far and away the best) or farm trials on HM and decon the jewelry (nice, but takes a good group, mini trials like VAS+2 and VCR+3 are best due to length).

If neither are options, well, your method is a very poor way of doing it as its terribly inefficient. Farming random mats in the wild is the lowest common denominator on this. You would be much better off farming gold in any number of more efficient ways and buying chromium n the open market.

Dzadzey

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

700 is a ridiculously small sample size. Not at all surprised that you would refine that many and get 0. I refine about 1k at a time fairly frequently. Sometimes I get 0, sometimes I get 8 or 9. 1 per 200 is pretty standard. What you did wasn't that far off from a coin landing on tails 3-4 times in a row. Unusual, perhaps, but not really all that shocking

If you want Chromium directly, well best way is crafting writs (far and away the best) or farm trials on HM and decon the jewelry (nice, but takes a good group, mini trials like VAS+2 and VCR+3 are best due to length).

If neither are options, well, your method is a very poor way of doing it as its terribly inefficient. Farming random mats in the wild is the lowest common denominator on this. You would be much better off farming gold in any number of more efficient ways and buying chromium n the open market.

You don't even have to farm that much to get potent nirncrux. Get real.

tmbrinks

Dzadzey wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

700 is a ridiculously small sample size. Not at all surprised that you would refine that many and get 0. I refine about 1k at a time fairly frequently. Sometimes I get 0, sometimes I get 8 or 9. 1 per 200 is pretty standard. What you did wasn't that far off from a coin landing on tails 3-4 times in a row. Unusual, perhaps, but not really all that shocking

If you want Chromium directly, well best way is crafting writs (far and away the best) or farm trials on HM and decon the jewelry (nice, but takes a good group, mini trials like VAS+2 and VCR+3 are best due to length).

If neither are options, well, your method is a very poor way of doing it as its terribly inefficient. Farming random mats in the wild is the lowest common denominator on this. You would be much better off farming gold in any number of more efficient ways and buying chromium n the open market.

You don't even have to farm that much to get potent nirncrux. Get real.

There is no mention in his post about potent nirncrux (which is only obtainable from farming)

Oreyn was talking about chromium grains/platings, and the advice he gave is 100% spot on and accurate.

MEBengalsFan2001

Dzadzey wrote: »

Today, I farmed the hell out of craglorn & wrothgar an refined nearly 700 units of raw materials. You know just how many chromium grains I got? Zero...Zip...Zilch...NADA. And, I'm not the only one. Folks in the clans I belong to just destroy their jewelry master crafting writs because they're too expensive to fulfill and the return simply doesn't justify the expense. Just Just another ZOS screw-up.

Do you have the CP placed to improve your odds of gaining resources when refining or deconstructing an item? If not, that is the problem.

BXR_Lonestar

Yeah, jewelry upgrade materials are a problem. Right now, I actually have more chromium (gold) plating than I have zircon (purple) because I rarely upgrade any jewelry to gold, but I try to get purple jewelry to round out my builds, or I upgrade to purple if I'm having a hard time getting the jewelry. And to farm for zircon plating is tedious because you have to hope purple jewelry drops and decon everything, and then you only get grains, not plating.

Don't get me wrong, the jewelry crafting was a great addition to the game, but many times, it just seems pointless because its so expensive you really just don't want to make use of it. I understand that they don't want jewelry crafting to become the way to get high-end jewelry, but at the same time, what was the point in investing all that work to level up my jewelry crafting in order to get a skill that is so rarely used?

At the very least, when you decon purple jewelry, they could give you a chance to extract double/triple the grains so at least getting the upgrade materials is not so tedious.

Lapin_Logic

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I get most of my Chromium Grains from Rank 5 crafting writ boxes on 18 characters. The rate is about 1 out of 4, sometimes you get 2 Grains, and rarely you get a full Chromium Plating.

It's So simple, of course, Why am I fighting daedric minions and helping the people of Nirn like a chump, I should spend my time productivly looking at Loading Screens while awaiting the engaging and oh so fun Crafting mini game, Mabe after I have done that on 36 characters I can then do the equally enjoyable checking every guild trader for cheap items to scalp and gouge activity that I hear the Cool Kids talking about.

😜

Dzadzey

tmbrinks wrote: »

There is no mention in his post about potent nirncrux (which is only obtainable from farming)

Oreyn was talking about chromium grains/platings, and the advice he gave is 100% spot on and accurate.

Indeed they are correct. And securing Chromium grains should be no more difficult that securing potent nirncrux.

wolfie1.0.

Dzadzey wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

There is no mention in his post about potent nirncrux (which is only obtainable from farming)

Oreyn was talking about chromium grains/platings, and the advice he gave is 100% spot on and accurate.

Indeed they are correct. And securing Chromium grains should be no more difficult that securing potent nirncrux.

Except that the method of farming jewelry grains effectively is different than the method for farming for potent nirn. Grabbing random jewelry nodes and then refining them is as effective as killing goats in craglorn and expecting a potent nirn to drop. If you want to be able to obtain grains and plates in any meaningful way in any reasonable time in the current state of eso you will need to start doing one of the methods mentioned. Farming nodes for jewelry on a map is supplemental at this point and not a good primary source.

six2fall

Last event I harvested 2k platinum nodes & on ended up with 6 grains when refined. As another poster said crafting writs are the best way to get them.

Imo something needs to be do with jewelry crafting. The materials take too long to collect & are too expensive. Just golden out 1 ring is a major cost in both effort & resources. Think refining should either give better odds at getting high quality grains, amount of grains needed to make each plating should be lowered as well as how many plating is required to gold an item. Jewelry needs to be in line with other crafting not out on it's own expense island

wolfie1.0.

six2fall wrote: »

Last event I harvested 2k platinum nodes & on ended up with 6 grains when refined. As another poster said crafting writs are the best way to get them.

Imo something needs to be do with jewelry crafting. The materials take too long to collect & are too expensive. Just golden out 1 ring is a major cost in both effort & resources. Think refining should either give better odds at getting high quality grains, amount of grains needed to make each plating should be lowered as well as how many plating is required to gold an item. Jewelry needs to be in line with other crafting not out on it's own expense island

The plates needed to go from white to gold is 1/2/3/4. That's actually ahead of other equipment. The real issue is the grains aspect. If the cut that down to even 8 or preferably 5 it would make a huge difference. But that won't happen anytime soon.

Though at the end of the day it's not ZOS that determines how expensive it is to craft an item. That's on the players. ZOS really only controls how they drop and when.

tmbrinks

Dzadzey wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

There is no mention in his post about potent nirncrux (which is only obtainable from farming)

Oreyn was talking about chromium grains/platings, and the advice he gave is 100% spot on and accurate.

Indeed they are correct. And securing Chromium grains should be no more difficult that securing potent nirncrux.

I can get more chromium grains in 45 minutes doing writs (an average of 7-8) on my 18 characters than the number of potent nirn I could in 45 minutes of farming in Craglorn (unless I'm collecting surveys)

Folkb

I want to know why we need plating anyway. The other crafting lines don't require you to gather 10 grains of something to make one.

tmbrinks

Folkb wrote: »

I want to know why we need plating anyway. The other crafting lines don't require you to gather 10 grains of something to make one.

1. It was added in later with Summerset. To not take away from vet trials (which drop gold jewelry) they didn't want to make it super easy to get gold jewelry, otherwise even less people would run them.
1b. They also didn't want to take away from the gold sink that is the golden vendor in Cyrodiil.
2. There's only 3 jewelry slots versus 11 other gear slots.

They've made some major adjustments to the system to make them "closer"

They reduced upgrades from the 1-2-4-8 to 1-2-3-4 for jewelry
They made it so max level jewelry writs drop a guaranteed grain (or 2 or a full plating), whereas the other crafts NEVER drop green/blue/purple mats

pleximus

Dzadzey wrote: »

Today, I farmed the hell out of craglorn & wrothgar an refined nearly 700 units of raw materials. You know just how many chromium grains I got? Zero...Zip...Zilch...NADA. And, I'm not the only one. Folks in the clans I belong to just destroy their jewelry master crafting writs because they're too expensive to fulfill and the return simply doesn't justify the expense. Just Just another ZOS screw-up.

I got 6 chromium grains from 200 raw mats and other times barely got any when refining a large amount. It's just bad RNG, nothing more.