how to do good damage with stam without relequeen

francesinhalover

Cp 900 stam sorce here

i'm not that interested on relequeen... tbh 5 secs... plus the fact it's single target... i keep losing my stacks constantly.

What other sets are there that are legit good outside relequeen and other stacking single target sets?

i'm using hundings + briarheart atm, but would like to try hundings + https://eso-sets.com/set/unfathomable-darkness

ShawnLaRock

Last I heard it was still 5 & 5 Rele/Kinras no monster Arena weapons - but there are TONS of sets that totally work - depending on your play style. I say “try ‘em out!” Which ones work best with your class / build? Which ones are FUN to you? If you gap-close, Unfathomable is great. And the other sets you mentioned are classic / “older” sets - but are still totally viable. Figure out if you are crit, DOT, poison, etc. - and that will help steer you in the right direction. I’d say most of the fun for me is trying out new set combos!

S.

MythicaLMeddLer

I really like the Vicious Ophidian set. You could try pairing that with brier heart. VO is looked at as a sustain set nowadays as there are obviously other sets that do more damage, but with two lines of crit. some weapon damage, and slayer bonus it does still pack a little punch. It could be a good useful option especially if you are not interested in the stacking single target sets. Or, just follow through and try out exactly what you want to try out, have some fun and test it out for yourself.

Djennku

You can try literally any other set. Experiment, and have fun!

That said, some fun replacements I've used are briarheart and aegis caller, but there's over 500 sets in the game, and you might find something fun you never thought about.

AuraStorm43

Briarheart and vicious ophidian’s what i use for sole arenas and 4 man and it gets the job done

I’d still recommend using relequen tho, its the best way to learn how to light attack weave properly

Vylaera

I don't do trials, but I've had luck in dungeons with 5pc Leviathan, 5pc gryphons ferocity, 1pc slimecraw, and 1pc grundwuulf with a sharpened bow frontbar (damage health IX or free daily reward crown poisons), infused maul on backbar (with weap damage glyph that procs on 2h AOE), shadow mundus stone, and Lava foot soup and saltrice buff food.

Definitely not the top-tier recommended build, but it's not bad. If you have psijic order maxed and don't need minor force from gryphons, replace it with a set with bonuses you need. Bone Pirate's Tatters certainly isn't BiS (it's also a pain in the tail to get due to RNG drops), but you won't have any sustain issues with it since healers don't build for stam and you have to rely on yourself.

Stam DPS will be pretty nice next update, and crafted sets will be back in the meta with the armor changes. 5 Medium 2 Light is what I'll be running on my stamblade. I wouldn't recommend New Moon Acolyte anymore since there's better or equal sets that don't have that terrible increased cost attached to the 5 piece. Diamond's Victory is a popular one (with a nerf incoming), Heartland Conqueror is really nice (and you can ditch that 2pc light armor since you won't need the penetration anymore and keep stacking weap damage and crit damage from going all medium), Ancient Dragonguard is basically NMA without the pen and cost increase.

Basically, you have a lot of options.

JamieAubrey

Just look at an enemy

daijyashinb16_ESO

Some sets I tried and experiment with include Azureblight and Tzovgins. Azureblight is nice because you have a lot of DoT stacking which will all stack on enemies which can then let loose quite a bit of damage. It even gets a nice buff in the form of Carve that is happening in the next patch. Definitely wouldn't sleep on Azureblight since it basically almost activates straight away with a Stamina Sorc.

Tzovgins is also just a nice set in general. Let's you skip out on using Trap Beast for something else and gives some pen.

Mind you these sets won't hit as hard as Relequen or Kinras. But other suggestions would include Leviathan, Vicious Ophidian and Advancing Yokeda/Berserking Warrior (on Weapon/Jewelry only for that one)

Even something like Bone Pirates Tatters (If using Dubious Camoran Throne), Toothrow and Hulking Draugr can work, though I'd recommend them less than the others above.

fizl101

I swap around with my sets - I do have Rele but don't wear it all that often.

I move between combos of -

Vicious ophidian
Deadly
AY
Aegis Caller
Alkosh and Warmachine if I am buffplar

Vicious and Deadly is my day to day combo, Aegis caller comes out if I want to bring out Elvis

I do have a set of Lokkes, but its sat in my bank not being touched

Hotdog_23

Love Vicious ophidian for the speed bump most of all but it's a nice set beside that. Not uber Meta or BIS but I like it a lot.

Solo, Spriggans is still nice set to use if you don't want to worry about keeping up with stacks of this or that. New Moon Acolyte also works well with Vicious ophidian.

Stamplar characters I like Deadly strikes. Can work well on StamDK if built for it.

Jaimeh

In addition to everything mentioned above, strength of the automaton, and leviathan are also good sets, and you can get them from dungeons, for boost to your physical damage and crit rating respectively.

Everest_Lionheart

If you ever get into soloing DLC dungeons you will learn to reconsider Rele in a hurry. It’s just too much damage to pass up on bosses with 3+ million health. VO is pretty decent for the trash fights but once the adds go away so does one of the sets main bonuses. I stick to AY and Rele and run consuming trap for sustain instead. VO and Briarheart for vMA and vVH though the boss fights are full of enough adds to sustain. Overland you can honestly throw on whatever gear you pick up and rofl stomp even the baddest of the bad bosses of each story line. WB’s you’ll need to string together a semi decent rotation and stay alive with a few exceptions where you better pay attention. DLC WB’s come with extra mechs but also aren’t hard once you figure those out as well.

The beauty of stam is you can wear the Hundings + Briarheart combo even into vet content and still perform well.

zelaminator

I run the 2 defiler sets + maw of the infernal on a stam petsorc.. it's hilarious 6 pets, me and Bastian.. 8 man team

MashmalloMan

I wouldn't invest too much into a VO set anymore going forward. You can get 1500stam and major expedition on kill for 6s via 2 red tree slottables next patch. Basically VO light. Use any other trial set + those 2 stars if you're use to using VO for things like Arena's.

Plus.. if you're doing arenas, the best way to beat them is killing ads and bosses as fast as possible. Something like Relequen in place of VO will do so much more damage, providing you more sustain since enemies die faster. VO is pretty much dead in my books.

oterWitz

For a long time I ran Vicious Ophidian and Twice Fanged Serpent, then I did some gear comparisons and found VO/Levi with Lover mundus performed better for me in terms of penetration and damage (speaking as a solo player, pick Thief if you have a group to provide pen obviously).

Next patch I am planning on making light DV and comparing VO or Levi as my second set. Imo, the pen and crit chance from light armor will be too good to pass up for solo play, especially for sorcs because of crit surge. Someone in another thread that I can't find now mentioned running Bahsei's on their stam character, and I think they might be on to something there.

I've always considered Briarheart redundant on a sorc because of crit surge, but ymmv. As for the Unfathomable Darkness set you linked, it looks like an RP set more than anything, as the five piece bonus will do a smidge of single target damage every three seconds. RP sets are fine and fun but if you're looking for "good" damage, any of the set suggestions in this thread will serve you better, depending on the kind of content you're looking to run (from a PvE perspective ofc).

BXR_Lonestar

francesinhalover wrote: »

Cp 900 stam sorce here

i'm not that interested on relequeen... tbh 5 secs... plus the fact it's single target... i keep losing my stacks constantly.

What other sets are there that are legit good outside relequeen and other stacking single target sets?

i'm using hundings + briarheart atm, but would like to try hundings + https://eso-sets.com/set/unfathomable-darkness

You can try Brairheart and Leviathan (substitute leviathan for Dragon Guard Elite, Tzogvin, or Vicious Ophidian), and toss in the Whaler's kilt + 1 piece monster helm (I use Kraugh's to increase my pen).

Depending on your sustain, you can sub out Briarheart with New Moon Acolyte.

You can sub any of the 4 crit sets I named for Kinra, but you will definitely want the Kinra then to increase your crit chance.

Yandir's Might may also be a good replacement for Briarheart but you have to be concious of the proc conditions for it.

Amerises

With 4-man dungeons I like lokke and AY. Pretty much always get enough surgeries. I'd say it gets relatively close to rele/kinras, though not equal.

Kel

As console weaving is extremely hit or miss, I'd love to see far less "light attack for stacks" type of sets all together.
Was extremely surprised and delighted to see how much better weaving was on PC.
It's night and day.

You sometimes have to mash light attack several times before it registers on console. Or go so slow in your rotation that it's entirely possible your entire stacks of rele will fall off.
So on behalf of my console brethren, less of these types of sets please ❤️

Edit: or at least add to the timers to give console players a chance.
Or you know, improve performance, but I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed on that last one...🤷‍♂️

madman65

Vicious Ophidian and Advanced Yokeda with Selene monster is the previous meta build, I still use it and no one has complained in a vet trial. I just don`t make the top DPS score but i`m not on the bottom either.

zaria

MythicaLMeddLer wrote: »

I really like the Vicious Ophidian set. You could try pairing that with brier heart. VO is looked at as a sustain set nowadays as there are obviously other sets that do more damage, but with two lines of crit. some weapon damage, and slayer bonus it does still pack a little punch. It could be a good useful option especially if you are not interested in the stacking single target sets. Or, just follow through and try out exactly what you want to try out, have some fun and test it out for yourself.

VO has always been an sustain set, and it has one weakness, if you fighting one boss with no or few adds it don't work.
And these tend to be the wipe feasts in vet dlc dungeons,
Easy stuff and yes its awesome.

Everest_Lionheart

Kel wrote: »

As console weaving is extremely hit or miss, I'd love to see far less "light attack for stacks" type of sets all together.
Was extremely surprised and delighted to see how much better weaving was on PC.
It's night and day.

You sometimes have to mash light attack several times before it registers on console. Or go so slow in your rotation that it's entirely possible your entire stacks of rele will fall off.
So on behalf of my console brethren, less of these types of sets please ❤️

Edit: or at least add to the timers to give console players a chance.
Or you know, improve performance, but I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed on that last one...🤷‍♂️

Stack sets work just fine on console, now if we could get NB bow procs to play along nicely that would be something to talk about. Love watching that counter tick up 1-2-3-4————5 what the what?