Burning Spellweave magicka dd?

zelaminator

I got the Inferno Staff from Burning Spellweave today.. A person in the group said that it was one of the most fantastic staffs and offered me 250K for it.. Now I usually play stamina DD, but this intrigued me.. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good magicka DD setup using this spellweave gear?

Vevvev

You got the most coveted and illusive staff in the game every magDK I know wants, congrats! Yes, it is a very powerful and useful set made even better by the fact it can carry over to the back bar. Take a Maelstrom Inferno Staff and set it as the backbar with the BSW as the front bar and it'll work very well with that set up. I know my PvP build also uses the BSW set because I can stick a mythic on the build and have 2 full 5 piece sets and a monster set alongside it with some trickery with how bar swapping works.

My PvP build just to give you an idea how the BSW inferno staff can be used to make a build more flexible. (I update it a lot as I find myself constantly tweaking it)
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=371491

TheForFeeF

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

colossalvoids

The thing is that it's considered a rare drop and was couple of times part of the meta set-ups, trash pulls last time, hence some people wanting it still.

You can't go wrong pairing it with mother's sorrow, preferably with the new kilt mythic. Maybe it's far from meta setup right now but I successfully dded vbrp in that set combination for the Unchained (no death, no sigil speedrun) last week so it's pretty solid nevertheless if you're thinking if it's worth your time and mats.

Luvtantius_Micocia

https://youtu.be/X9g1eRBeVds?t=482

Skinny Cheeks has some interesting builds involving BSW, I suppose it would work on any mag DD, but I use it on a mag DK.

zelaminator

TheForFeeF wrote: »

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

So you mean that you dont use it against bosses?

TheForFeeF

zelaminator wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

So you mean that you dont use it against bosses?

Yes, that is correct. There are much better sets to use (Bahsei, Diamonds Victory, Mothers Sorrow, Mechanical Acuity, False'Gods, Siroria)

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Hope you sold it.

It's a fine set, and maybe was worth that much 3 years ago, but better options can be had for less.

Fun story, the first patch day after the massive overhaul of dungeon sets a few years back, a staff dropped for a buddy of mine in a chest. Thankfully, he only tanked. I gave him 100k for it. Probably the best 100k I ever spent, and 100k was worth way more back then. The number of BSW rage/grind threads I read always made me LOL.

I never really used it that much in PVE, sure it was meta or close for a few patches, but there was a time where it was amazing on a PVP mDK.

zelaminator

It just seems that all the magicka DD builds that I find shout out for a Mother Sorrow/Medusa combo.. Would like to see some alternative builds..

Soulshine

Luvtantius_Micocia wrote: »

https://youtu.be/X9g1eRBeVds?t=482

Skinny Cheeks has some interesting builds involving BSW, I suppose it would work on any mag DD, but I use it on a mag DK.

I must be really behind the times here... but I have never met a Khajiit sorcerer in game, did not know this was a thing?

Caligamy_ESO

Soulshine wrote: »

Luvtantius_Micocia wrote: »

https://youtu.be/X9g1eRBeVds?t=482

Skinny Cheeks has some interesting builds involving BSW, I suppose it would work on any mag DD, but I use it on a mag DK.

I must be really behind the times here... but I have never met a Khajiit sorcerer in game, did not know this was a thing?

Crit is king and they get +12% crit damage on top of the +37% you can get from a divines shadow mundus setup, as well as increased tri-stat resources and recovery. I don't understand why there aren't more Khajiit mages of all types right now.

FrancisCrawford

TheForFeeF wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

So you mean that you dont use it against bosses?

Yes, that is correct. There are much better sets to use (Bahsei, Diamonds Victory, Mothers Sorrow, Mechanical Acuity, False'Gods, Siroria)

And supposing one can't get trial sets, but perhaps can get a Kilt?

spartaxoxo

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

So you mean that you dont use it against bosses?

Yes, that is correct. There are much better sets to use (Bahsei, Diamonds Victory, Mothers Sorrow, Mechanical Acuity, False'Gods, Siroria)

And supposing one can't get trial sets, but perhaps can get a Kilt?

Diamonds Victory and Acuity are crafted sets, pair Victory with Mothers Sorrow. Heard that's decent but haven't tried it.

zelaminator

"While in combat, using an ability with a range of 7 meters or less grants you Range Supremacy for 5 seconds, adding 437 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage to your damage over time and ranged attacks."

So you use a spell and then hit them in the face with melee attacks.?

I feel a bit confused concerning the Diamond Victory 5 piece bonus, and how to use it properly

vgabor

zelaminator wrote: »

I got the Inferno Staff from Burning Spellweave today.. A person in the group said that it was one of the most fantastic staffs and offered me 250K for it.. Now I usually play stamina DD, but this intrigued me.. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good magicka DD setup using this spellweave gear?

It's more about the rarity, the drop rate of the bsw inferno staff is legendary abysmal. The set itself while not a bad set isn't meta anymore.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Soulshine wrote: »

Luvtantius_Micocia wrote: »

https://youtu.be/X9g1eRBeVds?t=482

Skinny Cheeks has some interesting builds involving BSW, I suppose it would work on any mag DD, but I use it on a mag DK.

I must be really behind the times here... but I have never met a Khajiit sorcerer in game, did not know this was a thing?

Khajiits have been back on top for about a year now. My trial sorc is Khajiit, but was a high elf for years. Khajiits are meta.

danno8

zelaminator wrote: »

"While in combat, using an ability with a range of 7 meters or less grants you Range Supremacy for 5 seconds, adding 437 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage to your damage over time and ranged attacks."

So you use a spell and then hit them in the face with melee attacks.?

I feel a bit confused concerning the Diamond Victory 5 piece bonus, and how to use it properly

DV is changing in a few weeks to no longer proc the effect from several things, notably light attacks.

It is currently a very good set for for any melee magicka build since the staff will proc the melee buff constantly with weaving, but it's going to become much more cumbersome to use after the next update comes out.

Waseem

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>>>> Burning Spellweave is a MEME set <<<<

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if you spend hours and days farming it then I am sorry to say it in your face: Your efforts are met in a vain, you are better off training not to sneeze or drink water or checking your phone to save a glimpse of a second while doing a score run.

There was a time that spellweave set was good, and it got nerfed hard to it's current state of uselessness.
you are buying a dead memory, nada, zlich , MEME

if you have a magicka DK ( and ONLY magicka DK) you could slightly* benefit from it

*Slightly

*Slightly: if the trash pull lasts on average 8 seconds in the trial, and you are a magicka DK who uses that set, then for sure that same trash pull will last 7.9476 seconds
So it's like you spend whole hours and days farming city of ash, to save 0.0524 second of your precious life time
So imagine you had 10 trash pulls and you are competing for Europe's best score in a trial (LOL who does that in an unrecognizable game?) , your hours and days farming city of ash would save half a second of the entire trial's time
HOWEVER, if by any reason you were too slow to switch your gear from trash gear to boss gear you will lose the mind numbing battle and fail the entire run's score. ending up not wasting just the half of a second you just saved after 10 trash pulls, but delaying the entire raid by 10-20 seconds- you monster.

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>>>> Burning Spellweave is a MEME set <<<<

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Legend says it's a viable trick-set on a magicka DK who uses S/B, get the buff on backbar, and kill on mainbar kinda pvp burst

FrancisCrawford

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

You don't use Burning Spellweave as a main DD set, you'd want to use it as a trash setup:

- 3x Burning Spellweave
- 5x Acuity or Sorrow
- 1x Master's Lightning Staff
- 1x Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff

So you mean that you dont use it against bosses?

Yes, that is correct. There are much better sets to use (Bahsei, Diamonds Victory, Mothers Sorrow, Mechanical Acuity, False'Gods, Siroria)

And supposing one can't get trial sets, but perhaps can get a Kilt?

Diamonds Victory and Acuity are crafted sets, pair Victory with Mothers Sorrow. Heard that's decent but haven't tried it.

I don't like being in melee range.

FrancisCrawford

Anyhow, BSW works well in good-but-not-optimal builds. I use it a lot in the tougher solo/duo content that I do, especially since damage procs were nerfed.

That said, my level of play isn't that high. But I can solo some of the easier DLC world bosses and duo nWGT. I find nMA easy. I.e., I'm not a total potato either.

WrathOfInnos

BSW is still a good set in a lot of content. I think it beats DV for any fight shorter than 10s (a lot of overland and dungeon content). It beats front bar Mother’s Sorrow and can sometimes beat front bar Medusa if you use Barbed Trap. It’s definitely a good option to pair with Bahsei’s Mania this patch, just maybe not absolute meta in long trial fights.

Ippokrates

zelaminator wrote: »

"While in combat, using an ability with a range of 7 meters or less grants you Range Supremacy for 5 seconds, adding 437 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage to your damage over time and ranged attacks."

So you use a spell and then hit them in the face with melee attacks.?

I feel a bit confused concerning the Diamond Victory 5 piece bonus, and how to use it properly

Not only, you can also use other skills like armour line. The list of most skills could be found on eso university. AFAIR they miss bow line, which is funny cause arrow spray is procing range supremacy and in next patch they will remove LA/HA from the list, but for the most classes - except DK, you can make a really good rotation that proc both bonuses. Which is also fun btw

Narvuntien

I wish I had it

You don't have to play the absolutely best meta build. BSW is a good set that gives you nice DPS perhaps not top DPS but good enough basically all content (and that is really more on your own skill to be honest)

AuraStorm43

Honestly the only place i see people use bsw is in vet cloudrest while doing portals, even on mag dk you’ll usually be in zen and its better to mix that with bahsei or siroria

xilfxlegion

zelaminator wrote: »

I got the Inferno Staff from Burning Spellweave today.. A person in the group said that it was one of the most fantastic staffs and offered me 250K for it.. Now I usually play stamina DD, but this intrigued me.. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good magicka DD setup using this spellweave gear?

it took me two years to get that staff --- i have solo'ed that dungeons hundreds of times. finally someone in my group pulled it and i paid them 250k on the spot. -- -the best part -- this was three months ago --- i havent used it yet.

Larcomar

I got one a while back and happily run it on my DK. It's a nice front bar set; I ran it with silks on the body at one point but now use elemental succession. Gives you a big boost to flame damage which is pretty much everything I use on the dk barring volatile armor. Now, that's definitely a non meta build and probably wouldn't get me far in end game content, but it's fun, does just fine for 95% of the game, and tbh if I was into end game stuff, I probably wouldn't bring my dk anyway...

AuraStorm43

Larcomar wrote: »

I got one a while back and happily run it on my DK. It's a nice front bar set; I ran it with silks on the body at one point but now use elemental succession. Gives you a big boost to flame damage which is pretty much everything I use on the dk barring volatile armor. Now, that's definitely a non meta build and probably wouldn't get me far in end game content, but it's fun, does just fine for 95% of the game, and tbh if I was into end game stuff, I probably wouldn't bring my dk anyway...

Pretty much every group needs one, good way to never be outta work

Just gotta ask yourself “do i wanna be in zen instead of damage sets all the time?”

ADarklore

I really think ZOS should stop nerfing older sets just to push people into newer ones!! If anything, older sets should be buffed so that they remain competitive with newer sets... giving people OPTIONS. Right now they're on this "hybrid viability" kick, which is great... but part of this should also involve making ALL sets competitive, even older ones.

I recently got BSW for my Magplar which works well for that class. I'm also a big fan of NMA which gives me permanent damage increase without having to worry about 'proc' and the cost penalty isn't an issue because I run Imperial on Stamina builds and Breton on Magicka. Yet, there are many other sets out there that I have had for years that are pretty much relegated to my storage chests because of how much they've been nerfed... but because they're gold, I'm not getting rid of them. Perhaps one day ZOS will do a pass on those older sets and buff them to make them useful once more.

Folkb

Its an amazing front bar set paired with mothers sorrow. Not sure why people are saying otherwise.

My templat has bsw front barred with mothers sorrow for pve. Its so badass.

Fizzyapple

Folkb wrote: »

Its an amazing front bar set paired with mothers sorrow. Not sure why people are saying otherwise.

My templat has bsw front barred with mothers sorrow for pve. Its so badass.

There are many good sets this is one of them. The people who poopoo on this or that usually can't make use of the top sets efficiently anyway. DPS who are worth a snot know better than to say things like that.