A default skin option (vestige skin) to hide vampire skin

Shadowasrial

I know this has been talked to death but honestly I don’t know why it’s such hard concept to just create a normal skin that creates your normal mortal whew allowing you to use the hundreds of player tattoos that are 99% hidden by vamp. I mean with all the polymorphism and special skins you can hide your vampirism already. So why should it be so gamebreaking to be able to use your vamp skills and still look normal. We are 7 years into the game it’s time to add this quality of life skin that will make tons of people happy and have 0 effect on those that don’t wish to concern themselves with it. If you like vampire skins or prefer a certain stage skin then select it. If you want to look normal or be a select stage skin select it. It’s time to just give us that option, if I can run around as a vampire and run around looking like some wrath of crows or a spriggan why shouldn’t I be allowed to run around as my normal wood elf and enjoy the hundreds of tattoos Iv paid for over the years or unlocked via log in and game content?

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

JoDiMageio

If Count Ravenwatch can do it, so should we.

(Agree with you OP, we should be able to choose whether to show our vampy side or hide it from our unsuspecting meals friends).

belial5221_ESO

Maybe you aren't a vamp long enough to hide it.Maybe you gotta be hundreds/thousands years old to learn the tricks.

waterfairy

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

You are technically hidden in eso the same way vamps were hidden in plain sight in previous TES games but as with those games they were all visibly vampires just like you are in eso even at stage 1. I remember it was the count of Skingrad (iirc) who was a vampire that nobody was aware of yet the first time you see them it's obvious

Vevvev

I'd rather them add a hide skin option. It'd function like hide helmet and hide body details but with skins. It'd work since the vampire appearance is just a skin applied to you when you have the vampire status effect.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

You are technically hidden in eso the same way vamps were hidden in plain sight in previous TES games but as with those games they were all visibly vampires just like you are in eso even at stage 1. I remember it was the count of Skingrad (iirc) who was a vampire that nobody was aware of yet the first time you see them it's obvious

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

waterfairy

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

You are technically hidden in eso the same way vamps were hidden in plain sight in previous TES games but as with those games they were all visibly vampires just like you are in eso even at stage 1. I remember it was the count of Skingrad (iirc) who was a vampire that nobody was aware of yet the first time you see them it's obvious

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

that's because it's the disease and they're not yet full vampires..it wouldn't make sense for full fledged vampires in eso to look like they just have the treatable disease

I'm not against a normal skin because this is an mmo and breaks lore all the time

belial5221_ESO

Maybe the future vamps,or older ones can do it,but not all.Remember we're like 800 years before TES3,so things could be different.Also,maybe they only look different through mind control/hypnosisl,so they stay looking same to themselves(player would see the vamp skin),but other see em differently.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

You are technically hidden in eso the same way vamps were hidden in plain sight in previous TES games but as with those games they were all visibly vampires just like you are in eso even at stage 1. I remember it was the count of Skingrad (iirc) who was a vampire that nobody was aware of yet the first time you see them it's obvious

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

that's because it's the disease and they're not yet full vampires..it wouldn't make sense for full fledged vampires in eso to look like they just have the treatable disease

I'm not against a normal skin because this is an mmo and breaks lore all the time

No, they are full pledged vampires. Vampires of the Porphyric Hemophilia strain look normal when kept fed. Other vampire strains are capable of hiding their vampirism with illusion magic etc. This is backed up by lore and doesn't break it at all.

Carrying the disease doesn't even do anything to the appearance until the incubation period has gone through and the victim has become a vampire.

Vevvev

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

You are technically hidden in eso the same way vamps were hidden in plain sight in previous TES games but as with those games they were all visibly vampires just like you are in eso even at stage 1. I remember it was the count of Skingrad (iirc) who was a vampire that nobody was aware of yet the first time you see them it's obvious

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

that's because it's the disease and they're not yet full vampires..it wouldn't make sense for full fledged vampires in eso to look like they just have the treatable disease

I'm not against a normal skin because this is an mmo and breaks lore all the time

No, they are full pledged vampires. Vampires of the Porphyric Hemophilia strain look normal when kept fed. Other vampire strains are capable of hiding their vampirism with illusion magic etc. This is backed up by lore and doesn't break it at all.

Here's the lore to back it up!!!

""Now, tell me," he said. "Of the vampires of Cyrodiil."

I told him what I could. There was but one tribe in Cyrodiil, a powerful clan who had ousted all other competitors, much like the Imperials themselves had done. Their true name was unknown, lost in history, but they were experts at concealment. If they kept themselves well-fed, they were indistinguishable from living persons. They were cultured, more civilized than the vampires of the provinces, preferring to feed on victims while they were asleep, unaware."
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Immortal_Blood

"On Our Dual Patrons:

To Kin-father Molag Bal, who brought forth the Bloodmatron Lamae to spite Arkay, we owe our existence, as do all vampires, though not all honor Him. For him we revel in the feast, and acknowledge the gift adrift in our veins. To patron Clavicus Vile, beacon o'er our affairs, we owe our successes and social stature. Our bond with Vile makes us unique among our kind, for his guidance steels our savage craving with reason and savvy. For him we live amidst mankind, and twist them to our will from offices of power.

...

On Our Conduct:

To preserve our ideals and way of life, two primary edicts shall be observed. Above all, reveal thyself and our Order to no other, for discretion is the greatest of our virtues. Do not feed where you may be found out, or on those who may not suspect your passing. Avoid daylight by lifestyle; dispel common belief in our kind, and maintain supple appearance through satisfaction of the thirst. Second, devote your pursuits to the procurement of influence, political and otherwise. Our strength is not in physical numbers, but in skillful manipulation of society. Always be mindful of our Patrons, and preserve the Order. Devote yourself to these ideals always, and the Order shall count you amongst our own."
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manifesto_Cyrodiil_Vampyrum

Folkb

Live with your decision you dirty blood sucker!

NotaDaedraWorshipper

@Vevvev Thank you for mentioning them. Was too busy cooking dinner to go book searching and linking

starkerealm

Vevvev wrote: »

Here's the lore to back it up!!!

""Now, tell me," he said. "Of the vampires of Cyrodiil."

Here's the problem with this. The various vampires of Tamriel belong to different bloodlines, each with unique characteristics. The name of the Cyrodiilic clan is lost (or at least will be lost by the Third Era), but their signature clan ability is that they can blend flawlessly into society.

That's their unique quirk. The Lamae bloodline's quirk is that they can operate in sunlight without issue. (Though, now there's also all that weirdness with their stages being flipped, but, whatever...)

So, there isn't a lore reason why we need to have the ability to hide our vampirism... but, I'm with you. I roll the Blackmarrow Necromancer on most of my characters to hide their vampirism. Though, I'd seriously like a non-glowy version of it.

schoober

Now people don’t want vampire to look like vampires.
Just cure yourself or get over it.

JoDiMageio

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

Except that our vamps in ESO are infected with Noxiphilic Sanguivoria and therefore do not benefit from the camouflage powers of Porphyric Hemophilia.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire

However, I like the idea of being able to use illusion magic to hide. And, the article above provides many lore ideas that could help with head-canon about how a vamp looks, too, depending on the race of your vamp.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

JoDiMageio wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

Except that our vamps in ESO are infected with Noxiphilic Sanguivoria and therefore do not benefit from the camouflage powers of Porphyric Hemophilia.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire

However, I like the idea of being able to use illusion magic to hide. And, the article above provides many lore ideas that could help with head-canon about how a vamp looks, too, depending on the race of your vamp.

@JoDiMageio Some of us would like to roleplay having a different strain. It was also an example of others to why a vampire can look normal. I also mentioned alchemy and illusion magic which is common for vampires in Elder Scrolls to hide their looks with. Just look at Verandis.

P.S, UESP is better to use than the fandom.

JoDiMageio

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

JoDiMageio wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Hiding vampirism with illusion magic is also common in lore. We even see it on npcs. I'd like to roleplay that my vampire has the strain from Cyrodiil, which would mean he should be able to blend in perfectly in society when keeping fed.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I see that as a game mechanic, or the case of Oblivion's condition of suffering from generic fantasyisis. We read about vampires like those in Cyrodiil who has Porphyric Hemophilia how they look perfectly normal. No weird gauntness or red eyes.

Except that our vamps in ESO are infected with Noxiphilic Sanguivoria and therefore do not benefit from the camouflage powers of Porphyric Hemophilia.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire

However, I like the idea of being able to use illusion magic to hide. And, the article above provides many lore ideas that could help with head-canon about how a vamp looks, too, depending on the race of your vamp.

@JoDiMageio Some of us would like to roleplay having a different strain. It was also an example of others to why a vampire can look normal. I also mentioned alchemy and illusion magic which is common for vampires in Elder Scrolls to hide their looks with. Just look at Verandis.

P.S, UESP is better to use than the fandom.

I wasn't saying you couldn't... Simply that it doesn't fit with how we become vamps in the game.

Roleplay away.

Ps. I know... But I couldn't find the info I was looking for on UESP. ☺️