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Stop forcing us to pve to get pvp gear

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Togal
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Can't there be a system where if we had the dlc we could get the gear by pvping instead of forcing us to go to pve. Its unfair that pve players don't have to even bother going to pvp to get pve gear, terrible design choice.
  • Alucardo
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    A majority of it you can buy on the AH. A lot of the tradeable sets are actually really good (thankfully). Though I wouldn't complain if they had an elite gear vendor that sold random dungeon drops similar to the regional one.
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    A majority of it you can buy on the AH. A lot of the tradeable sets are actually really good (thankfully). Though I wouldn't complain if they had an elite gear vendor that sold random dungeon drops similar to the regional one.

    Yeah but sets like vateshran is locked behind pve content. This is one of the best sets and is almost a must have to midmax.
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    Togal wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    A majority of it you can buy on the AH. A lot of the tradeable sets are actually really good (thankfully). Though I wouldn't complain if they had an elite gear vendor that sold random dungeon drops similar to the regional one.

    Yeah but sets like vateshran is locked behind pve content. This is one of the best sets and is almost a must have to midmax.

    Oh yeah, that's a fair call. I wouldn't be so salty if it was vDSA, because you have a greater chance at getting the drop you want with the ability to trade. I never bother with the solo arenas though because it's just such a pve time sink :(
  • Togal
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Togal wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    A majority of it you can buy on the AH. A lot of the tradeable sets are actually really good (thankfully). Though I wouldn't complain if they had an elite gear vendor that sold random dungeon drops similar to the regional one.

    Yeah but sets like vateshran is locked behind pve content. This is one of the best sets and is almost a must have to midmax.

    Oh yeah, that's a fair call. I wouldn't be so salty if it was vDSA, because you have a greater chance at getting the drop you want with the ability to trade. I never bother with the solo arenas though because it's just such a pve time sink :(

    yeah ahahah, hopefully they do something about it someday, the system feels old.
  • divnyi
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    Togal wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    A majority of it you can buy on the AH. A lot of the tradeable sets are actually really good (thankfully). Though I wouldn't complain if they had an elite gear vendor that sold random dungeon drops similar to the regional one.

    Yeah but sets like vateshran is locked behind pve content. This is one of the best sets and is almost a must have to midmax.

    Idk vate normal isn't that bad, you should be able to clean it on almost any PvP char, bar tanky bruisers & tanks because DPS check on final boss. PvP chars are inherently good at solo arenas just because your sustain expectations is of being solo.

    More concerns about hard vet DLC monster sets. Some of them are interesting but I'm sure I won't be able to complete that, not with all my chars having PvP builds anyway.

    And don't forget dungeon weapon RNG that can lock you in 30+ consecutive dungeon runs without drop.

    I wish there were some fallback mechanism of obtaining those items for very big amounts of some resource. Say, crafting item you don't know at transmute for x4 cost.
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  • rbfrgsp
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    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    If BiS PvP gear dropped in eg Rewards for the Worthy, there would be no sense of achievement in anything.
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    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    If BiS PvP gear dropped in eg Rewards for the Worthy, there would be no sense of achievement in anything.

    I can’t even imagine the mass screeching that would occur if you suggested the opposite on a trials board and locked the best PvE gear behind a PvP wall like achieve a 5 kd in battlegrounds or kill players whilst outnumbered.
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    Fawn4287 wrote: »
    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    If BiS PvP gear dropped in eg Rewards for the Worthy, there would be no sense of achievement in anything.

    I can’t even imagine the mass screeching that would occur if you suggested the opposite on a trials board and locked the best PvE gear behind a PvP wall like achieve a 5 kd in battlegrounds or kill players whilst outnumbered.

    I 100% guarantee they would farm it then, like join BG for those 5 kills, die once and sit duck on the base.

    Some PvP gear already made it to PvE meta (like assault), which raised the prices to the roof.
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  • Togal
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    divnyi wrote: »
    Fawn4287 wrote: »
    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    If BiS PvP gear dropped in eg Rewards for the Worthy, there would be no sense of achievement in anything.

    I can’t even imagine the mass screeching that would occur if you suggested the opposite on a trials board and locked the best PvE gear behind a PvP wall like achieve a 5 kd in battlegrounds or kill players whilst outnumbered.

    I 100% guarantee they would farm it then, like join BG for those 5 kills, die once and sit duck on the base.

    Some PvP gear already made it to PvE meta (like assault), which raised the prices to the roof.

    but all those pvp sets are tradable, so they aren't forced to do pvp content.
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    There should be PvP equivalents to the Slayer and Aegis buffs from Trials gear. It's an easy/obvious way to ensure that the best PvP gear is PvP-sourced, while also ensuring that gear doesn't become BiS for PvE.
    Edited by the1andonlyskwex on July 26, 2021 11:27AM
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    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    Bro they nerfed the crap out of the AP grind just because the pve tears were flooding their office. I don't think I could deal with the nightmare that would ensue on the forum if this were to happen.
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    Having fun in Vateshran? xD
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    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Nah. To have BiS gear, you should play all game areas to get it. BiS for trials should be in IC. Best Cyro gear should be what drops in Trials.

    If BiS PvP gear dropped in eg Rewards for the Worthy, there would be no sense of achievement in anything.

    Not.... exactly.... If you look at Trial gear it's made to be the best of the best when it comes to PvE content, and people still grind for it and feel accomplished for attaining it. PvP gear on the flip side has the same effect with the added fact you can just straight up buy it, which creates a marketplace demand players will try to fill. Gear is mostly a means to an end anyway and after finally getting that BSW inferno staff I was super duper happy, but that happiness quickly died off as I was then more focused on beating the content I needed that staff for.
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  • Andre_Noir
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    Seems they heard you. Upcoming DLC is almost completely flooded by pvp gear lol
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    Andre_Noir wrote: »
    Seems they heard you. Upcoming DLC is almost completely flooded by pvp gear lol

    Crimson Oath’s Rive: Dungeon
    Rush of Agony: Dungeon
    Silver Rose Vigil: Dungeon
    Thunder Caller: Dungeon
    Hrothgar's Chill: Rewards for the Worthy
    Plaguebreak: Rewards for the Worthy

    I wouldn't say "completely flooded". Don't get me wrong, I'm happy there's new pvp sets of course, but let's not over-exaggerate.
  • Andre_Noir
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Andre_Noir wrote: »
    Seems they heard you. Upcoming DLC is almost completely flooded by pvp gear lol

    Crimson Oath’s Rive: Dungeon
    Rush of Agony: Dungeon
    Silver Rose Vigil: Dungeon
    Thunder Caller: Dungeon
    Hrothgar's Chill: Rewards for the Worthy
    Plaguebreak: Rewards for the Worthy

    I wouldn't say "completely flooded". Don't get me wrong, I'm happy there's new pvp sets of course, but let's not over-exaggerate.

    66% (4/6 of 5p) sets of dungeon are pvp sets and the rest just a useless jokes or just weaker incarnation of trial's sets. So it HARDLY over-exaggeration
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