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Please sell Gold in Crown Store

Holy Warpath
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For players like myself who do not have a whole lot of gaming time per day, because either they have family, full time jobs, busy schedules etc... If I am even lucky I get to game at the most 3 hours in a single day and the most time I get to game with my busy schedule 15 hours per week at the most. I do wish I had the time to grind in order to make gold in-game, but unfortunately I do not have that option. I would gladly spend money in exchange for ESO in-game gold, plus if Zenimax offered a option like this in their Crown Store I could honestly see players selling items in guild traders for a higher cost.
I only play on the Xbox One, because it is cheaper then PC.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    If you want to make quick gold you can sell crowns for in game gold.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Viewsfrom6ix
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    This would cause massive inflation since gold is generated out of nowhere. It is basically printing money.

    A better idea would be to formalize crown selling process. Could be tradable crown coffers something like 1k, 5k, 21k or whatever increments that exist in the crown store.

    Anything is better than what we currently have.

    Edited by Viewsfrom6ix on July 13, 2021 2:08PM
  • Hasenpfote
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    you can pay 1000 crowns for a ~70k gold cost for bag upgrade 8/8.

    So you can expect the pricetag would be around 50'000 Gold for 1000 crowns.
  • coop500
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    That would basically kill crown trading, so less rich players that can't spend money on crowns lost their only real way to trade their gold for crown items
    Edited by coop500 on July 17, 2021 12:41PM
    Wishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?
  • SkaraMinoc
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    100% disagree with selling gold in crown store. This would be a political nightmare for ZOS and they already make money allowing crowns to be gifted. As others suggested, try selling crowns. Many of us do it and it's official supported. Everyone benefits from crown selling except for some edge cases.
    Edited by SkaraMinoc on July 17, 2021 9:26PM
    PC NA
  • Blinx
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    this is a bad idea, would ruin the economy
  • whitecrow
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    The idea of paying real money for fake money baffles me. Honestly, I think it's weird that people sell crowns for gold.

    Even if you only have limited time to play, you're bound to pick up valuable items you can sell in guild store.15 hours a week is still a pretty long time.
  • saf227_ESO
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    The idea of paying real money for fake money baffles me. Honestly, I think it's weird that people sell crowns for gold.
    ...

    Let me explain... No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
    Player A loves housing & wants all the pretty purple & gold patterns. ZOS doesn't sell those. So Player A sells Crowns for gold so they can buy all the patterns. (They'd buy the patterns with Crowns directly - but that's not an option)
    Player B wants something from the Crown store, doesn't want to spend real money, but has lots of gold. Players A & B come to an accommodation. Players A & B are now happy.
    Players C-Z who listed all the pretty patterns in guild stores are happy to sell them for outrageous sums of gold to Player A.
    ZOS is happy to have sold the Crowns to Player A - and happy to have all these happy players.

    Also, I have a wheelbarrow for sale.
    Edited by saf227_ESO on July 18, 2021 10:21PM
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Hasenpfote wrote: »
    you can pay 1000 crowns for a ~70k gold cost for bag upgrade 8/8.

    So you can expect the pricetag would be around 50'000 Gold for 1000 crowns.

    On PC NA 1000 Crowns will get you 500,000 gold. Exchange rate is around 500:1 currently. And trading players is good because no additional gold is added into the economy, just changes hands.
  • Alucardo
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    The idea of paying real money for fake money baffles me. Honestly, I think it's weird that people sell crowns for gold.

    You get free crowns from ESO+, so it's not like you have to go out of your way to buy them.
  • Agathoclès00
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    if you needed gold, deal crown with me, need 2k more

    profil Vinicious, serveur europe, Console
  • adriant1978
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    If you want to make quick gold you can sell crowns for in game gold.

    There needs to be an official way of doing this, some kind of COD system rather than abusing a facility meant for gifting, which isn't at risk of scammers before I'd chance my crowns.
  • Asardes
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    I play for ~30 minutes/day on NA and make ~50k/day just doing writs for 2 minutes.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Viewsfrom6ix
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    Asardes wrote: »
    I play for ~30 minutes/day on NA and make ~50k/day just doing writs for 2 minutes.

    If it is on 1 character, that is not possible. More like 15-20k on average. If you don't get gold upgrades or surveys, it is basically 5k.
  • Asardes
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    Asardes wrote: »
    I play for ~30 minutes/day on NA and make ~50k/day just doing writs for 2 minutes.

    If it is on 1 character, that is not possible. More like 15-20k on average. If you don't get gold upgrades or surveys, it is basically 5k.

    IDK I make little else but writs, random dungeon & random BG and end up with 300-400k more in bank every week. I mean I sell master writs too, maybe some of the gear I get from PVP but that's dirt cheap.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Aelsioln
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    I would love a system similar to the WoW token or the GW2 Gem Exchange.

    For anyone who hasn't played those games, or who has but hasn't payed attention to these exchanges, it doesn't create any new currency out of nothing. Instead the exchange rate depends on supply and demand of each currency.

    No longer would people argue in zone chat if they think someone is charging too much or too little for Crown trading. No more worrying about "is this other person going to just take my money and run?"

    Heck, something official like this would probably even increase Crown sales because people like OP who don't have enough time to farm for gold would instead buy Crowns and toss them into the pot for gold.
  • bridgetrose
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    Aelsioln wrote: »
    I would love a system similar to the WoW token or the GW2 Gem Exchange.

    For anyone who hasn't played those games, or who has but hasn't payed attention to these exchanges, it doesn't create any new currency out of nothing. Instead the exchange rate depends on supply and demand of each currency.

    No longer would people argue in zone chat if they think someone is charging too much or too little for Crown trading. No more worrying about "is this other person going to just take my money and run?"

    Heck, something official like this would probably even increase Crown sales because people like OP who don't have enough time to farm for gold would instead buy Crowns and toss them into the pot for gold.

    I used the token system several times when I played WoW. Worked great.

  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    If you want to make quick gold you can sell crowns for in game gold.

    There needs to be an official way of doing this, some kind of COD system rather than abusing a facility meant for gifting, which isn't at risk of scammers before I'd chance my crowns.

    I got scammed myself last year,I agree there should be an safer way of trading crowns for gold.
    Like for example adding the item the person wants to the trade window,let the person put in the gold and once both parts accept the person gets charged the crowns,gets the gold and the other person gets the item all at the same time.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • hashii
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    If you want to make quick gold you can sell crowns for in game gold.

    There needs to be an official way of doing this, some kind of COD system rather than abusing a facility meant for gifting, which isn't at risk of scammers before I'd chance my crowns.

    I got scammed myself last year,I agree there should be an safer way of trading crowns for gold.
    Like for example adding the item the person wants to the trade window,let the person put in the gold and once both parts accept the person gets charged the crowns,gets the gold and the other person gets the item all at the same time.

    I was thinking of something like this as well. Rather than sell gold in the crown store, which would cause massive inflation and almost kill the crown gifting market, they should legitimize the crown gifting by implementing a simple UI trade window like you said.

    This will eliminate all fears of trading with strangers and open up the market with fair practices.
  • xclassgaming
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    No.
    Give us clannfear mounts!
  • Reverb
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    Terrible idea. [snip]

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 6, 2021 1:54PM
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • VaranisArano
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    Question: would you be willing to take one week of playtime and basically dedicate your time to activities that make gold, like getting items to sell to other players?

    The last time I tracked my farming results, I ran farming loops in Craglorn for 12 hours and sold the results for about 1 million gold, on PC/NA. If you don't have a maxed crafter, then nirncrux will still sell well or there's always farming alchemy flowers in the Hollow City. People always need flowers for potions!

    Now, I don't know how much gold you want, so it might take more or less time to build up your desired "nest egg." But in general, I think it's a good idea to have some activity that makes gold in ESO even if you have limited playtime.
  • CyberSkooma
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    The WoW token DESTROYED World of Warcraft's prestige and economy. SWTOR cartel coin listings on the GTN DESTROYED the economy and brought market items up into the BILLIONS. This is a HORRIBLE idea, people already trade gold for crowns in places like TCE. If it was able to be done in-game, sanctioned by ZOS, I can't even think of how bad the outcome would be. The economy is already being screwed by these crown whales.
    I play this game a little bit I guess
  • Kalik_Gold
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    The WoW token DESTROYED World of Warcraft's prestige and economy. SWTOR cartel coin listings on the GTN DESTROYED the economy and brought market items up into the BILLIONS. This is a HORRIBLE idea, people already trade gold for crowns in places like TCE. If it was able to be done in-game, sanctioned by ZOS, I can't even think of how bad the outcome would be. The economy is already being screwed by these crown whales.

    And people defend crowns for gold here, which is just one step removed. I sell them the good for crown store items - as it helps me get cosmetics for playing the game (earning gold ) but in reverse they are just buying gold.
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Ken_Koerperich
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    Question: would you be willing to take one week of playtime and basically dedicate your time to activities that make gold, like getting items to sell to other players?

    The last time I tracked my farming results, I ran farming loops in Craglorn for 12 hours and sold the results for about 1 million gold, on PC/NA. If you don't have a maxed crafter, then nirncrux will still sell well or there's always farming alchemy flowers in the Hollow City. People always need flowers for potions!

    Now, I don't know how much gold you want, so it might take more or less time to build up your desired "nest egg." But in general, I think it's a good idea to have some activity that makes gold in ESO even if you have limited playtime.

    Nope, because I'm a Quest doer...NOT a "farmer"....

    All "gold" making skills are zero....Not wasting points on them, as 1 character doesn't make gold unless you get luck on your side to receive gold mats....

    And I'm not about to run around an area in "circles" just so I can MAYBE put up 200 rubedo that the "bots" will just undercut....

    I put stuff up, 20 items 25 days ago....Have only sold 3....Bots farming same thing, and undercutting prices...

    Consoles also are being dominated by "mob" guilds, who run multiples and eat up the GOOD spots....

    So making money the "old fashioned" way is becoming tedious....It's faster to just sell it to the Vendor and keep questing now...

    So I'd LOVE to see GOLD in the Crown Store.....Actually give me something to buy, as nothing but DLC in there will make me pay...
    Edited by Ken_Koerperich on August 17, 2021 3:56AM
  • Asardes
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    If you're a quester then you don't need that much gold since you don't need high end gear upgraded to legendary quality, tri-stat glyphs, crafted potions and so on, which would be needed for end game content. If you clear all the objectives in a zone you can get 50k+ from turning in quests alone and maybe about that much just selling the trash that drops off mobs to NPC merchants. You can get tempers for upgrading your gear off refining the materials you casually pick along the way, or just sell them raw in chat or a guild store and buy the tempers if you lack the passives. Here, problem solved, no need to unbalance the game economy even more.

    On PC-EU there has been 50-100% inflation over the last year exactly because the developers have added more and more gold sources, while the sinks have remained the same. legendary upgrades are double the price compared to a year ago, crowns are triple the price: last year you could buy for 300-350 gold, now you're lucky if you find them at 1000. The people who are hurt the most are *casual players*, the ones that don't have time to flip stuff on guild stores and/or run writs on many characters to get materials to sell. For example I'm fine with inflation because I already have the experience and crafting infrastructure to constantly adapt to it, but a new player who just joined the came will be unable to buy anything he needs off guild stores because prices are inflated.
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  • Aelsioln
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    The WoW token DESTROYED World of Warcraft's prestige and economy. SWTOR cartel coin listings on the GTN DESTROYED the economy and brought market items up into the BILLIONS. This is a HORRIBLE idea, people already trade gold for crowns in places like TCE. If it was able to be done in-game, sanctioned by ZOS, I can't even think of how bad the outcome would be. The economy is already being screwed by these crown whales.

    Genuine question, not trying to be sarcastic or anything just not an economics expert, but how did the token "destroy" the economy? The token exchange system does not create gold out of thin air. It has a pot that people contribute to each time they buy a token with gold.
  • MrGhosty
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    I think gold buying in the crown store is a terrible idea. Even on one character it is not hard to make plenty of gold, with minimal time investment that amount can go up significantly. I don't typically push back against convenience item sales in cash shops, but being able to directly purchase the in game currency seems like it would cause inflation very fast and make a lot of items on guild stores become insanely priced in a short time.

    Even if you hate doing crafting writs, running daily quests in current zones can be a great source of income because of the motif pages and style materials you can earn from them. Doing all of them in a zone takes maybe 30 minutes (longer if you go to old zones and have to wait for people to do world bosses, but still relatively low time sink) It just happens that the downside to this method is that you have to wait to make your gold. Running zone quests and selling all loot you pick up will net you a considerable amount of gold as well but that is a limited resource as you cannot repeat those quests without making a new character.

    The options are to make gold slower over time via selling items obtained naturally from just playing the game, or make more gold upfront but requiring a bit of upfront time investment to get multiple characters setup to do so. I forget how many character slots we get at default, but even just making some low level toons and running the base level crafting writs will be an increase in gold. If you invest the day or so in each one to get them to level 50 that amount will go up even more.

    There are plenty of ways to make gold even on a limited time constraint, we don't need gold buying added to crown store as it will negatively impact a lot of players.
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  • netch_a_sketch
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    Also, I have a wheelbarrow for sale.
    I'm interested
    Edited by netch_a_sketch on August 18, 2021 7:10PM
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