ZoS please remove deathmach from BG`s.

Parasaurolophus

This is of course a joke. But I have reasons to hate deathmatch and I consider it the worst mode on BG`s and here's why:
1) Balance. If you don't have a sorcerer / warden / necromancer in your party, don't even try
2) After a while, deatmatch turns into a hunt for the weakest team.
3) At high MMR it becomes excruciatingly long.

Most importantly, many players hate other modes. I meet people all the time who just play pvp from the beginning and the team can't do anything about it.

My suggestion:
1) On deathmach, score less points for killing players from the weakest team.
2) Earn a small amount of points for killing players in any BG`s mode.

OlumoGarbag

To 1. If you have a good team your group composition doesnt matter too much. Its not like there are too many good teams out there anyways. Most good players quit bgs when we were forced to play relic run 24/7

To 2: true, thats why they need reimplement homezones, where the weakest team gets a 20% dmg taken and done buff. like they used to have for some maps.

To 3. Thats the point of it, isnt it. The higher the mmr the more tactical it gets. To sandwich or to be sandwiched. I prefered bgs that ended 250-230-200 over the ones we have now where half of the randoms die in less then a few seconds because damage is way to high this patch.

To your suggestions.

Yes farming certain teams/playera over and over shouldnt give the same points as 1 hard earned kill.

Yes but also reduce the amount of time you spend running around avoiding fights for all modes.

ArgonianAustin

Hilariously, just today i entered death match and i was the only one on my team vs 2 teams of 4. I kept telling myself this will be interesting if it started after 40 seconds with just me and it did. regardless i charged just myself to the center, but about half way through 3 people joined my team and we got second place.

Parasaurolophus

Oh, I forgot to say that the frag is counted to the one who deal the last hit, even if you destroyed 99% of the enemy's health. I'm not sure if this is a drawback, but maybe some points should be credited to both teams.

RevJJ

BrownChicken wrote: »

Oh, I forgot to say that the frag is counted to the one who deal the last hit, even if you destroyed 99% of the enemy's health. I'm not sure if this is a drawback, but maybe some points should be credited to both teams.

That’s where your “assist” score comes from.

To your point 1 - Last week I did a BG where I was the only non-petsorc. It was me and 15 pet sorcs, 15 scamps, 15 flappy b-words and 15 atronach ults.
All my abilities were constantly hitting pets. It would have been funny if I wasn’t trying to get a BG win for the event achievement.

katanagirl1

No, Deathmatch is the only option worth doing.

You are going to have to kill other players in any other BG so why add other silly rules on top of that?

Chaosball and relics were no fun. Haven’t done the other. Just want Deathmatch.

EDIT: typo

Parasaurolophus

katanagirl1 wrote: »

No, Deathmatch is the only option worth doing.

You are going to have to kill other players in any other BG so why add other silly rules on top of that?

Chaosball and relics were no fun. Haven’t done the other. Just want Deathmatch.

EDIT: typo

In my experience, I often have to fight other players for flags and relics. I like that players have to split up for different purposes. But on deathmatch it is often a wall-to-wall battle, so just the right class setup wins here.
Yes, I agree that sometimes situations arise when in order to win you have to fight less. But they rarely occur and as I noticed it depends on the card. The Domination or Chaos Ball in Mor Khazgur and Foyada Quarry are very different. Therefore, I think it would be great if the team would receive a few points for killing players in all modes.

gariondavey

RevJJ wrote: »

BrownChicken wrote: »

Oh, I forgot to say that the frag is counted to the one who deal the last hit, even if you destroyed 99% of the enemy's health. I'm not sure if this is a drawback, but maybe some points should be credited to both teams.

That’s where your “assist” score comes from.

To your point 1 - Last week I did a BG where I was the only non-petsorc. It was me and 15 pet sorcs, 15 scamps, 15 flappy b-words and 15 atronach ults.
All my abilities were constantly hitting pets. It would have been funny if I wasn’t trying to get a BG win for the event achievement.

How did you get 16 people in your bg?

Viewsfrom6ix

1) Agree
2) Agree
3) These are the most fun DMs!

I think adding assists to the objective score in DM could be a good idea. Currently assists only grants medal score, kills get you 15 objective points.

Maybe, 50%-75% damage on a kill you didn't get grants 3 objective points. 75%-99% grants 5 points.

RevJJ

gariondavey wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

BrownChicken wrote: »

Oh, I forgot to say that the frag is counted to the one who deal the last hit, even if you destroyed 99% of the enemy's health. I'm not sure if this is a drawback, but maybe some points should be credited to both teams.

That’s where your “assist” score comes from.

To your point 1 - Last week I did a BG where I was the only non-petsorc. It was me and 15 pet sorcs, 15 scamps, 15 flappy b-words and 15 atronach ults.
All my abilities were constantly hitting pets. It would have been funny if I wasn’t trying to get a BG win for the event achievement.

How did you get 16 people in your bg?

Lag, obviously. My ping was so high that another team joined in the middle of the BG because the game was finished server side but not on my side.

Either that or I counted wrong while I typed that, but the first one seems more plausible.

Crood_Oyl

ArgonianAustin wrote: »

Hilariously, just today i entered death match and i was the only one on my team vs 2 teams of 4. I kept telling myself this will be interesting if it started after 40 seconds with just me and it did. regardless i charged just myself to the center, but about half way through 3 people joined my team and we got second place.

I once joined a death match where one team was just stood at our teams spawn point farming my teammates. Clearly one person had abandoned that’s why I was added. Well, I jumped into them with my stamcro, let my ulti loose and killed them all. They came running back again, my team had gained confidence and we wiped them all again. Was amazing. We got 2nd place, but when I joined the score was like 400-0-0. Ended something like 500-400-0. lol

FreeMaN_A

Just part DM from other game modes into another queue. For some players (and me) DM is the worst game mode - the only we don`t want to play. For others DM is favorite mode. So why not to give everyone they want.

CGPsaint

I have yet to get a single DM from doing BGs during MM. I'm primarily seeing Capture the Relic, which is my least favorite game mode. I was hoping for more Chaos Ball so that I could finish of those achievements.

Elo106

BrownChicken wrote: »

This is of course a joke. But I have reasons to hate deathmatch and I consider it the worst mode on BG`s and here's why:
1) Balance. If you don't have a sorcerer / warden / necromancer in your party, don't even try
2) After a while, deatmatch turns into a hunt for the weakest team.
3) At high MMR it becomes excruciatingly long.

Most importantly, many players hate other modes. I meet people all the time who just play pvp from the very beginning and the team can't do anything about it.

My suggestion:
1) On deathmach, score less points for killing players from the weakest team.
2) Earn a small amount of points for killing players in any BG`s mode.

Deathmatch is the only gamemode where everyone does what they are supposed to, every other gamemode is deathmatch.

I like your 1 suggestion, 3 teams is supposed to make 2nd and 3rd place fight 1st place but with the way the rewards are set up 2nd place usually secures 2nd place for the rewards and in the end the weakest team just gets ganged up on. Thats on every gamemode. You have good suggestions, If we ever get a BG update I hope they are included.

High MMR going on for too long could be countered with a debuff after X minutes every player gets a debuff X% increased damage taken. The longer the game the longer the debuff, starting after a certain time. With that in place we could also activate CP again.

Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »

1) Agree
2) Agree
3) These are the most fun DMs!

I think adding assists to the objective score in DM could be a good idea. Currently assists only grants medal score, kills get you 15 objective points.

Maybe, 50%-75% damage on a kill you didn't get grants 3 objective points. 75%-99% grants 5 points.

This would solve the sorc kill steals without nerfing sorcs directly!