undertaker exploit

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Flaaklypa
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can u get banned for intentionally exploiting and using this set, knowing its bugged or whats the deal?
why did nefas post the comment to redirect reports to him?
why hasnt zos said ANYTHING
why wont zos fix this before MYM? the exploit is gonna be insanely abused during the event
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    What is the exploit exactly?
    It places minor life steal on your opponents as written in the tool tip.

    Just put it on for Midyear if you wish to be able to fight more than 2 people at the same time (like we used to be able to do before all these PvP nerfs)

    I keep hearing about it a lot. I think people are frustrated in duels if they don't use it.
    It's essentially the same skill that a Warden can apply or a Nightblade...only thing is you are applying it to some other tanky classes who don't have access to this passive, so of course it seems over powered.
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    What is the exploit exactly?
    It places minor life steal on your opponents as written in the tool tip.

    Just put it on for Midyear if you wish to be able to fight more than 2 people at the same time (like we used to be able to do before all these PvP nerfs)

    I keep hearing about it a lot. I think people are frustrated in duels if they don't use it.
    It's essentially the same skill that a Warden can apply or a Nightblade...only thing is you are applying it to some other tanky classes who don't have access to this passive, so of course it seems over powered.

    What I find the most frustrating at the moment is the lack of survivability on magicka melée classes this patch. Try no cp PvP even with Pariah on and see if you can 1v3/4...it's extremely hard nowadays.
  • Surak73
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »

    What I find the most frustrating at the moment is the lack of survivability on magicka melée classes this patch. Try no cp PvP even with Pariah on and see if you can 1v3/4...it's extremely hard nowadays.

    1v3/4 SHOULD be hard, unless you're fighting potatoes or just running up and down in a tower...
  • OlumoGarbag
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    Yeah even with undertaker survivalbility is really really low on magicka classes. That what you get for giving everyone free stats and damage, while making them only really scale with medium armor.

    Undertaker is working as intended, lifesteal itself is bugged for not having a reapply and target cooldown.

    They need to give undertaker a cooldown + lifesteal a cooldown per target.

    I actually think its a good thing they removed the target cap from lifesteal, it makes absolutely 0 sense that you can only lifesteal from a single target while all others have the debuff as well.
    class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling
  • Spurius_Lucilius
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    Today's console patch notes says that it is fixed.So it will be fixed next week on PC.
    PC NA Casual/PVP
  • Flaaklypa
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    What is the exploit exactly?
    It places minor life steal on your opponents as written in the tool tip.

    Just put it on for Midyear if you wish to be able to fight more than 2 people at the same time (like we used to be able to do before all these PvP nerfs)

    I keep hearing about it a lot. I think people are frustrated in duels if they don't use it.
    It's essentially the same skill that a Warden can apply or a Nightblade...only thing is you are applying it to some other tanky classes who don't have access to this passive, so of course it seems over powered.

    @Youyouz06 Undertaker has several bugs:
    1, it ignores battle spirit, for some reason
    2, even though the no cd is intended, lifesteal is bugged and doesnt have a global cooldown
    3, Undertakers lifesteal heal happens immediately, normal lifesteal only heals after 1 second delay, but not undertaker

    in 1vs group scenario, or even 1vs1 scenario this set does around 7k heals per second (impossible to outdamage) and it ruins pvp
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Surak73 wrote: »

    1v3/4 SHOULD be hard, unless you're fighting potatoes or just running up and down in a tower...

    No CP Mag DK (Pariah+bsw = resistance caps)...you die so fast still.
    Game is broken and people just zerg, so who really cares if this set can save you at the end of the day :)
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Flaaklypa wrote: »

    @Youyouz06 Undertaker has several bugs:
    1, it ignores battle spirit, for some reason
    2, even though the no cd is intended, lifesteal is bugged and doesnt have a global cooldown
    3, Undertakers lifesteal heal happens immediately, normal lifesteal only heals after 1 second delay, but not undertaker

    in 1vs group scenario, or even 1vs1 scenario this set does around 7k heals per second (impossible to outdamage) and it ruins pvp

    I didn't know about this 'ignoring battle spirit'..I thought battle spirit is a general nerf for all, so how does it do this? Proof, cmx?

    There is no CD on it, yes. It's just like the resto line skill in a way...only difference is you don't have to cast it as a skill from what I've seen.
    Focus your staff's power to apply Minor Lifesteal to an enemy for 30 seconds, healing you and your allies for 600 Health every 1 second when damaging them.
    When you or an ally is healed by Minor Lifesteal, they gain Minor Expedition, which increases their movement speed by 15% for 4 seconds.

    I haven't even assembled the sticker book of this set yet, I've dueled some people with it. It could make the best player even better, but it won't make a mediocre player that much better either. I don't think I'm going to be motivated enough to farm Northern Elsweyr honestly nor buy it for 1 million a piece :p
    Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on June 23, 2021 6:29PM
  • Flaaklypa
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »

    I didn't know about this 'ignoring battle spirit'..I thought battle spirit is a general nerf for all, so how does it do this? Proof, cmx?

    There is no CD on it, yes. It's just like the resto line skill in a way...only difference is you don't have to cast it as a skill from what I've seen.
    I haven't even assembled the sticker book of this set yet, I've dueled some people with it. It could make the best player even better, but it won't make a mediocre player that much better either. I don't think I'm going to be motivated enough to farm Northern Elsweyr honestly nor buy it for 1 million a piece :p

    test it yourself, and there is no point defending it, since the set is getting nerfed, and rightfully so
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Flaaklypa wrote: »

    test it yourself, and there is no point defending it, since the set is getting nerfed, and rightfully so

    It's gonna be expensive! We'll see..there are other solutions = get a group healer ;)
  • Extinct_Solo_Player
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    I wish people were like this in regards to in game performance which is the real travesty....
  • moo_2021
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    Flaaklypa wrote: »
    in 1vs group scenario, or even 1vs1 scenario this set does around 7k heals per second (impossible to outdamage) and it ruins pvp

    Can someone explain to me how it could reach 7k heals? The descriptions says 600/s (= +1200 heal?): https://eso-sets.com/set/call-of-the-undertaker Are there some skills or CPs which can multiply the rate?

    The best I can get is Strategic Reserve. With 7k it means player can set DoT on bosses to survive stun-lock or stand on Pyrelord's lava forever yes?
  • Flaaklypa
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    moo_2021 wrote: »

    Can someone explain to me how it could reach 7k heals? The descriptions says 600/s (= +1200 heal?): https://eso-sets.com/set/call-of-the-undertaker Are there some skills or CPs which can multiply the rate?

    The best I can get is Strategic Reserve. With 7k it means player can set DoT on bosses to survive stun-lock or stand on Pyrelord's lava forever yes?

    heals per second =/= heals per tick

    the whole point of the bug is that it doesnt have a cooldown, so imagine getting that 1200 tick heal 10 times in 1 second. thats whats happening when u have more people on you and getting constantly healed
    @moo_2021
  • Fennwitty
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    PC hotfix for tomorrow morning:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/578755/
    Hi everyone,

    Tomorrow, June 24 beginning at 4am EDT, we’ll be bringing the PC NA and EU megaservers offline to apply a hotfix ahead of Midyear Mayhem starting. This will fix the issue where the effects from Minor Lifesteal and Magickasteal are ignoring their cooldowns in some cases. We anticipate being finished by 7am EDT and no download will be required. Thanks in advance for your patience.
    PC NA
  • xeNNNNN
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    Surak73 wrote: »

    1v3/4 SHOULD be hard, unless you're fighting potatoes or just running up and down in a tower...

    Arrius mine, urgh.
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
  • Indigogo
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    xeNNNNN wrote: »

    Arrius mine, urgh.

    Arrius. Freakin. Mine. *eye twitches*
  • Surak73
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    Indigogo wrote: »

    Arrius. Freakin. Mine. *eye twitches*

    Roebeck farm is very popular too...
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