Performance or Fidelity mode on console?

msetten

I am wondering what video modes XBOX Series X and PS5 players are going to use. I myself am switching now often between the two and am still now sure which I prefer.

kmcaj

Performance

Game kept crashing in fidelity mode. Didnt get a chance to see anything in it.

B0SSzombie

Performance

Considering 4k doesn't do much for this game unless you play on a home theater system, Performance is a vast improvement to the experience.

TallGeek

Performance

Performance, there's noticable input lag in fidelity mode.

msetten

Switching based on situation (please explain)

I will keep switching for a while.

What I don't understand is why 4K 60fps isn't an option. Isn't the PS5 and Xbox Series X powerful enough to for this? If not, why not offer us to select our own levels of details, shadow, etc so we could have 60fps but with 4K, but for example some less detailed shadows.

Rex-Umbra

Fidelity

Get dizzy in performance mode. Everything moved to fast vomit.

Lucozade85

Performance

For me, this game isn't about the graphics, so performance for me.

mazeikeen

Switching based on situation (please explain)

Last night I tested both on my Series X and found that the performance mode was too "fuzzy" on my TV. I have a 50-inch screen and 1440p on a 4k display still looks awful unless I'm literally across the room. Also, as others have mentioned, the 60 FPS was slightly dizzying, but only when just running around in the wilderness for me.

However, switching to performance mode for a trial and some dungeons was like a whole new experience. I don't think I could go back to 30 fps. Doing my rotation, while usually an exercise in patience, was extremely smooth. No weird frame drops or stutters. Occasionally I got some lag but that is my internet more than the game itself.

So, for exploration/questing I will have fidelity turned on so I can experience the stunning visuals of this game in 4k, and for group content/arenas I will be turning on performance mode. I'm kind of disappointed it can't run in 4k/60 fps like some of the other SX enhanced games, but the fact that we can switch between modes on the fly is an acceptable trade-off for me.

Everest_Lionheart

Performance

Performance all the way.

Fidelity needs work, lots of work…

NewBlacksmurf

Switching based on situation (please explain)

While Performance provides obvious smooth visuals the drop down to 1440 is significant on my 65 inch TV soon to be 75+. It causes and obvious change and I don’t like it. What I mean is the game is obviously blurry and unclear to the point where I feel my eye trying to adjust and I suspect that is going to end in a nasty headache after flipping this back and forth depending on the scenario.

It would be one thing if this was 1440 upscale to 4K but that is NOT what it looks like. This is another WTH is ZOS doing moment for me as specific to the Xbox Series X, if they were to allow in settings for it to fully restart the game I think it would work better. Also missing is an option to turn off HDR for the game. I think depending on the size of your TV this becomes more or less of an issue. I just feel like ZOS doesn’t care to understand how the consoles work…some of this stuff is making their game look and perform worse when there are better options for them…requiring less work.

Ideally they would have done this below. I know this is not PC but the consoles actually do different things its not the original PS4 and Xbox One. You have a couple of different iterations to allow for. Let the user select what they feel looks best. I would say some options would not exist for all systems obviously and selecting X would filter out Y and Z. Because a lot of this is already built into the game its just enabling the menu vs locking it to 2 presets that have obvious gaps.

Video Settings

• Native resolution (list 1080, 1440, 4K)
• FPS (List 30, 60, variable)
• HDR (On / Off)
• Shadow settings (List Low, Med, Hi, Ultra)
• Texture settings (Low, Med, Hi)
• View Distance (List of 3 preset values)
• Ambient Occlusion with LSAO and SSGI (On/Off)
• Antialiasing with TAA (On/Off)
• Planar Reflections (List Low, Med, Hi)
• Circular Bokeh Depth of Field

I basically use Fidelity always unless I’m doing something that I need to focus on what going on vs how pretty the game scenery is. As an example I never completed VetMSA so that would be performance.

If I were in a Trial I’d also user performance …maybe…

StolenEyes

Switching based on situation (please explain)

Using Performance mode for Dungeons, Trials and Imperial City. Fidelity everywhere else.

BRCOURTN

Performance

That 60 fps is just too smooth! And I'm a big fan of the loading times too now, less than 10 seconds between zones and nearly immediate within the same zone

Eccentric_Vampire

Performance

The game was really stuttering when I tried fidelity mode in Summerset. I use a monitor instead of a TV anyway so the difference isn't really that noticeable.

MJallday

Performance

Performance. Fidelity just seems slow and horrible now

Casul

Performance

I will never play in 30 fps again.

MurderMostFoul

Performance

Performance mode make the action look so much better. As a pvper, this pays the more dividends for me.

But I will say I wish performance mode was 4K 60fps with other setting dialed down. I do notice how the image looks softer at 1440p.

trackdemon5512

Switching based on situation (please explain)

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

While Performance provides obvious smooth visuals the drop down to 1440 is significant on my 65 inch TV soon to be 75+. It causes and obvious change and I don’t like it. What I mean is the game is obviously blurry and unclear to the point where I feel my eye trying to adjust and I suspect that is going to end in a nasty headache after flipping this back and forth depending on the scenario.

It would be one thing if this was 1440 upscale to 4K but that is NOT what it looks like. This is another WTH is ZOS doing moment for me as specific to the Xbox Series X, if they were to allow in settings for it to fully restart the game I think it would work better. Also missing is an option to turn off HDR for the game. I think depending on the size of your TV this becomes more or less of an issue. I just feel like ZOS doesn’t care to understand how the consoles work…some of this stuff is making their game look and perform worse when there are better options for them…requiring less work.

Ideally they would have done this below. I know this is not PC but the consoles actually do different things its not the original PS4 and Xbox One. You have a couple of different iterations to allow for. Let the user select what they feel looks best. I would say some options would not exist for all systems obviously and selecting X would filter out Y and Z. Because a lot of this is already built into the game its just enabling the menu vs locking it to 2 presets that have obvious gaps.

Video Settings

• Native resolution (list 1080, 1440, 4K)
• FPS (List 30, 60, variable)
• HDR (On / Off)
• Shadow settings (List Low, Med, Hi, Ultra)
• Texture settings (Low, Med, Hi)
• View Distance (List of 3 preset values)
• Ambient Occlusion with LSAO and SSGI (On/Off)
• Antialiasing with TAA (On/Off)
• Planar Reflections (List Low, Med, Hi)
• Circular Bokeh Depth of Field

I basically use Fidelity always unless I’m doing something that I need to focus on what going on vs how pretty the game scenery is. As an example I never completed VetMSA so that would be performance.

If I were in a Trial I’d also user performance …maybe…

You’re absolutely right. 1440 on a small monitor isn’t really noticeable but on a current market large 4K tv it really shows the drop in resolution. Let’s not forget that a bunch of PS4 owners also sprang for top of the line sets capable of 4K 120 FPS output with a 65” size or larger. Possibly on an OLED like LG in which you will see EVERYTHING.

Switching back and forth will just be a norm for us.

Elsonso

Fidelity

30 FPS ought to be enough for anybody.

Balraw

Performance

Performance for me all day everyday.

60 FPS is a bigger game changer for me than the higher resolution of fidelity.

Dalsinthus

Switching based on situation (please explain)

I said both but now that I've tried it, performance all the way.

INe_Saninus

Performance

Thought I'd switch between the two, but once I tried performance there's no going back.
I'll lose a few pixels for super smooth gameplay.

It's like a whole new world.

(**** those pixels!)

msetten

Switching based on situation (please explain)

INe_Saninus wrote: »

Thought I'd switch between the two, but once I tried performance there's no going back.
I'll lose a few pixels for super smooth gameplay.

It's like a whole new world.

(**** those pixels!)

Yes, I know that the 60fps is really cool and smooth. But I personally do miss those pixels on my 55" OLED TV.

IrishJack72

Performance

For me on the Series X I much prefer the performance mode. Everything is super smooth and the graphics are really crisp. I found fidelity mode a little wonky. It felt like there was some input lag and it just didn't seem as smooth as performance. I play on a 65 inch LG TV and it will always be performance mode for me.

mazeikeen

Switching based on situation (please explain)

msetten wrote: »

Yes, I know that the 60fps is really cool and smooth. But I personally do miss those pixels on my 55" OLED TV.

Yeah, the lower resolution is really noticeable on my display as well. I'll take the 30 fps when I'm just running around, though. The load screens are 5-8 seconds at most and the lighting/textures look really nice when in fidelity mode. I really don't need 60 fps in most situations. I've been playing 5 years with 30 fps, I'm used to it, lol.

itscompton

Performance

I just hope they fix the combat text all being pushed into the same area on the far left of the screen instead of over the targets. It's really hard to see while focusing on the enemy and if you do multi-target damage the combat text over laps and turns into a completely unreadable mess.

Andyhunter21

msetten wrote: »

I will keep switching for a while.

What I don't understand is why 4K 60fps isn't an option. Isn't the PS5 and Xbox Series X powerful enough to for this? If not, why not offer us to select our own levels of details, shadow, etc so we could have 60fps but with 4K, but for example some less detailed shadows.

The PS5 cant even handle 60fps 1440p. I was playing all day yesterday and got huge frame drops, and stuttering during Trials and harrowstorms. Most gaming PCs cant even handle 4k 60fps.

msetten

Switching based on situation (please explain)

Andyhunter21 wrote: »

The PS5 cant even handle 60fps 1440p. I was playing all day yesterday and got huge frame drops, and stuttering during Trials and harrowstorms. Most gaming PCs cant even handle 4k 60fps.

Then I wonder how they can promote the PS5 and Xbox series X as being able to go up to 120fps.

bbrown0770

Performance

kmcaj wrote: »

Game kept crashing in fidelity mode. Didnt get a chance to see anything in it.

This same for me

trackdemon5512

Switching based on situation (please explain)

msetten wrote: »

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Andyhunter21 wrote: »

The PS5 cant even handle 60fps 1440p. I was playing all day yesterday and got huge frame drops, and stuttering during Trials and harrowstorms. Most gaming PCs cant even handle 4k 60fps.

Then I wonder how they can promote the PS5 and Xbox series X as being able to go up to 120fps.

The consoles are entirely capable of 4K 120fps but the content being played matters. ESO is a taxing game as are games like God of War, Final Fantasy VII remake, etc. Pushing those into 4K 120FPS would come with some serious graphical quality downgrades.

On ESO think of losing a bunch of textures, draw distance, and effects in order to be able to hit that and you see the compromise likely isn’t worth it.

Simpler games will eventually go ahead and do this though. Back on the PlayStation 3 it was capable of 1080p 60fps which no other game could do at the time. It was a serious technical achievement but not every game can replicate such performance.

itscompton

Performance

Andyhunter21 wrote: »

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msetten wrote: »

I will keep switching for a while.

What I don't understand is why 4K 60fps isn't an option. Isn't the PS5 and Xbox Series X powerful enough to for this? If not, why not offer us to select our own levels of details, shadow, etc so we could have 60fps but with 4K, but for example some less detailed shadows.

The PS5 cant even handle 60fps 1440p. I was playing all day yesterday and got huge frame drops, and stuttering during Trials and harrowstorms. Most gaming PCs cant even handle 4k 60fps.

This game isn't that demanding as far as graphics go. I have both PS5 and PC versions and before I upgraded my PC GPU I had an old 4GB AMD RX 570 and could set everything to max and get 55-60 fps at 1440p and averaged nearly 30fps at 4K. The hardware in the PS5 is 2-3X more powerful so I was definitely a bit disappointed they couldn't give us all the graphical goodies at 60fps with full 4K.

KeiRaikon

Performance

Fidelity mode just has too many issues, between crashes, constant FPS drops in any form of group content and barely, if any noticeable visual upgrades compared to Performance.

The only downside of Performance mode right now is the combat text being a complete mess thats being pushed to the side, but once that fixed Performance is obviously the way to go.