Respect the 1v1?

oXI_Viper_IXo

CaperGuy

Always stop to help. They chose the wrong alliance and all enemy factions should be ruthlessly exterminated.

People sometimes get after me for breaking up a 1v1. I’m not psychic and if I see people fighting , I’m likely going to attack the enemy because…well…. that is the object of the game. If they actually communicate to me that they want to 1v1 that’s fine, but don’t assume that I know your intentions just by looking. I tunnel vision and see an enemy to take down by default.

Cyrodiil is open war, not a dueling tournament.

VaranisArano

Where are they fighting?

If I pass them in an open field, I'm usually already heading to a different battle where stopping to fight might result in me missing the bigger fight I'm heading towards. I ride on by.

If they are dueling by an alliance objective, however, they can't reasonably expect privacy. Besides, most people who go to objectives to fight do so with the expectation that it will turn into a brawl.


There's also a flip side to this question, which is that every so often PVP players post the question "Why won't people stop and fight me in the open field, but just keep riding by even when I hit them?"

My answer is the same: because I'm headed towards a bigger battle with a bigger AP tick than I'm going to get from stopping to fight a random guy in a field.

rbfrgsp

Krulzuk wrote: »

Cyrodiil is open war, not a dueling tournament.

This, but more than this. Cyrodiil is literally the only overland zone in the game that doesn't allow duelling. If you want to duel, don't go to cyrodiil.

StamPlar_1976

Always stop to help. They chose the wrong alliance and all enemy factions should be ruthlessly exterminated.

If you're dueling anywhere other than the Mournhold wayshrine, you're doing it wrong.

Waffennacht

Always respect the 1v1

I cant tell u how many times an untold number of stealthed observers have destroyed me for interrupting

WeylandLabs

Depends on the situation

I usually sneak in heals to the player on my faction.

I cant have him losing and looking bad because his/her credit score will go down. And if you take eso seriously then if you die in eso you die irl !

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master_vanargand

Always stop to help. They chose the wrong alliance and all enemy factions should be ruthlessly exterminated.

Domo. Enemy player-san. I'm Silencer.
All enemy players should be die!

Vevvev

Depends on the situation

If it's in the middle of no where and it's pretty even, and the enemy doesn't attack me, I'll stand by and watch. If my ally dies I'll try to res them if allowed by the enemy player, if not then queue my own 1v1.

divnyi

Implying everyone here plays only cyro. Ofc I will jump in to help ally in BG.

Minyassa

Depends on the situation

I'm not going to run in and grab someone else's kill unless I know them and I know they want me to. That might be a new player who's about to get their first kill, or it might be someone who's been fighting that person for a while and was finally about to take them down. It might be their last kill they need for a quest that day and they're already late for dinner. It just seems petty to go after them with all the "what ifs".

Amottica

Always stop to help. They chose the wrong alliance and all enemy factions should be ruthlessly exterminated.

Krulzuk wrote: »

People sometimes get after me for breaking up a 1v1. I’m not psychic and if I see people fighting , I’m likely going to attack the enemy because…well…. that is the object of the game. If they actually communicate to me that they want to 1v1 that’s fine, but don’t assume that I know your intentions just by looking. I tunnel vision and see an enemy to take down by default.

Cyrodiil is open war, not a dueling tournament.

I am still very new here but this makes sense. How can we know they are dueling or actually fighting each other for the reason Cyrodiil was designed.

VaranisArano

divnyi wrote: »

Implying everyone here plays only cyro. Ofc I will jump in to help ally in BG.

"Wrong alliance" implies Cyrodiil or Imperial City. I'm sure you knew that, but I got a chuckle out of imagining how this might go down:

"You chose the Storm Lords? How dare you?! Kill all Team Purple!

"You've abandoned the glorious green banner for the Fire Drakes? Prepare to die!

"I'm a Pit Daemon to the end! If it ain't green, it's gone."

I mean, alliance loyalty really isn't a factor in Battlegrounds, which are explicitly 4v4v4 team-based gameplay.

gariondavey

Depends on the situation

most 1v1s against equally or roughly equally skilled opponents will result in a stalemate assuming they have optimized builds, so when you see a 1v1 I think it is a good move for the most part to join and end it.

can't count the number of times I've fought someone in bgs or cyrodiil or ic and the fight just goes on and on for minutes and eventually one of us just leaves, lol.

JayKwellen

Always respect the 1v1

Like why even interrupt at all? It's just two people having a go at each other. If they're 1v1ing they're obviously not taking your keep or killing your friends (or you), so just leave em be.

Besides its usually pretty obvious, what with the other people standing there watching too, sometimes from multiple alliances. The last 1v1 I had there was a little tri-alliance spectator group, and even though I ended up losing it was good fight and I was thankful nobody else jumped in. Seems like it'd be kind of a *** move to turn around and deny someone else the same.

Togal

Always respect the 1v1

Usually the ones to interrupt a duel in cyrodiil get a spanking from the opponent, seen it too many times by now. Duels in cyrodiil are usually done by skilled players, messing with that duel means death baby. Lol was dueling a warden before, then 10 people interrupted my duel and proceeded to get 1vX by the mad lad.

JayKwellen

Always respect the 1v1

@Togal Very true. I've always enjoyed seeing a good duel going on, you know the type where spectators start to gather and everything, and some random person or group comes in interrupts it - only for the duelists to team up for a minute with the spectators and slam the interrupters into the dirt, after which they go right back to the duel like nothing happened.

Plus like you said most of the time the people dueling are good players, and often the ones sitting around watching are too. Like a pomeranian jumping in between two angry pitbulls, what did you really think was gonna happen?

ThePianist

Depends on the situation

I always play solo and I follow logical objectives. I don’t get why 1vxers shame people for rolling with a Zerg or getting zerged down. As a solo player myself, I expect to be zerged down when I’m deep behind enemy lines trying to cause a distraction like rss locking certain keeps. Or sieging the keep myself so the enemy can’t tele.

Now do I respect 1v1’s? About 50% of the time, if there is 0 bars on each faction. Then there’s not much going on in the map. When there is 2 bars or 3 bars more, it is war. Despite the lag, I enjoy fighting outnumbered and I also enjoy large scale pvp.


No I don’t see it as disrespectful when you poke a Zerg because you want to 1v1, but then they turn around and clap you. I do this a lot on my magsorc and I don’t find it disrespectful at all if I get hit by 300 snipes and 50 curses. If I can get at least 3 people to chase me down (don’t matter if I kill them or they kill me), then my objective to distract is complete.

The entitlement in this game is baffling.

vesselwiththepestle

Depends on the situation

Next to a battle at a keep, scroll, etc. I don't respect "1v1". Just not happening. You can do your 1v1 someplace else.

I often thought, oh, this is a nice fight... then the enemy's buddy joins, they kill me and I get even teabagged. So I get more and more frustrated. Sometimes I left players alone because I thought they are questers and they don't want to fight (low AR and so on). But then they are come back 2 minutes later with some friends. LOL? It's always delicious to kill those players. Then when it comes to Imperial City, there are players who try to gank you just when you enter a loading screen to another area or even back to your base. When my screen already darkens I get "pulled back" and this ganker is on my. This is absolutely the worst, in my opinion this kind of behavior should be considered griefing. Experiences like that make me consider any kind of honor and respect less and less.

So the most reliable source for me to respect a 1v1 is to recognize the player's name. When I see the name and I know, oh, this is a solo player, I will be much more likely to keep my distance.

If I see a solo player or a duo, trio etc. killing visible worse players, I try to help them as good as I can. This especially concerns those tower runners. I hate tower runners. So I get in there, stun them, wait at their shadow if it's a nightblade etc. Often they bind even a full PUG for a long time where that PUG could take a keep in that time they are chasing a few tower runners. However, tower runners want to 1vX, so they are free for all anyway. And I prefer PUGs taking keeps instead of chasing tower runners.

Then it is different for me if I run in a group or if I am running solo. I can barely find any 1v1 anyway in Cyrodiil, but I am much more likely to recognize or respect a 1v1. When I am running in a group, we play for objectives. If there is a solo player sitting at a ressource looking for 1v1, I am sorry, but when we need to take that ressource as objective, that player needs to leave or die and it might be we "zerg her down", because we don't want to take that player to take the ressource again the minute we leave.

That all said... I wish there was a dueling option outside Cyrodiil which allows for a no CP + Battle Spirit match. Just like it would be in the no CP campaigns. I honestly don't get it why ZOS never did that. I would so much like to hang out at a dueling spot if it were under the same conditions as I do open world pvp.

ketsparrowhawk

Depends on the situation

In Cyro/IC yes. In BG's no.

Ranger209

Don't even stop to consider if it is a 1v1 or not. Doesn't cross my mind, don't care. It's an AvAvA zone, and that is my mentality.

Tessitura

Depends on the situation

In Cyrodiil, if it's one of my boys getting jumped then I will for sure stop and crush the head of the guy doing the jumping. If the enemy wins then at least he wont take the walk of shame alone. But if it's one of my guys jumping someone then I watch. Point is, dont jump if you can't handle it, and if you can handle it you can handle more then one guy.

Or *** it, sometimes I just wanna knock heads. Lets krump da git. *** 'em all. If you ain't blue, then you are through.

Alucardo

Depends on the situation

If they're close to a keep while it's ua they're free game. If I come across them fighting in the middle of no where I will just ride by.

AmoralOne

Depends on the situation

To be fair if a stam build catches out one of our bombers or something, I def move over and throw some regen, and cc at the guy // however if its not my group - not my problem

If it is my group, but its 2 equal players, ill just watch - cause if the guildy loses you get to make fun of him

NordSwordnBoard

Depends on the situation

Inside an objective radius? Kill 'em.

Outside an objective radius? That's not the objective, is it?

coletas

Always respect the 1v1

If you want to know if its a duel or not, just keep looking until the end. If its a duel nobody will fight u when giving res. Its really anoying to be interrupted while dueling. Would be great to be some type of advise like a flag in cyro or IC to notice that, and when other players get into there or support from outside The circle, ... Enable friendly fire XD seriously... Every combat you see during more than 5 seconds, its a duel for sure, respect it please even in The case The guy of your alliance is struggling, He/she is having fun and learning

WabanakiWarrior

Depends on the situation

What matters is having fun. Full stop. A good even matchup is far more enjoyable for everyone than a thirsty zerg kill. If I see two players going toe to toe, I'll usually leave them be. But the second some ganker tries to get involved or some noob jumps in to 2v1, I'll always jump in and focus the newcomer.

nukk3r

Depends on the situation

Duels are obvious, they're held far from any places of importance, I usually ignore them. But if someone does 1v1 near a keep or a resource, enemy player is just AP. Many times my unintended 1v1 became Xv1, why should I do anyone a courtesy of a fair fight?

Earthewen

Depends on the situation

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

I honestly don't always know that it is a 1v1 for fun or if someone is getting ganked. I will usually stop of help, but if it becomes clear it was a 1v1 on purpose, then I will back off. HOWEVER, if you are in a place where the fights usually happen, you're in the wrong place. Go someplace where you can fight without anyone bumping into you easily.

Sedare38

Always stop to help. They chose the wrong alliance and all enemy factions should be ruthlessly exterminated.

If you want to 1v1 in cyro go to a very out of the way place, or go duel in one of the pve zones. Cyro is overland pvp that is faction v faction. If i see an enemy shield, i attack it's just that simple.

paulychan

Depends on the situation

I la to gen ultimate for next boom and get straight ganked by another observer. got that ult tho.