Detection potions fix

Sagetim

I remember in the past that if you were hidden and someone cast a detection potion you can tell that you were being detected by the eye ball opening. Now you have know clue that someone used a detection potion and can see you they just run up to you and start killing you. You are left wording if the game/skill is broken (again).

If you are hit with Magelight/ Expert Hunter skill line / Revealing flare you know that you can been seen. With a detection potions you can only guess and wonder if it's the game or a potion.
This feels like something that needs to be fixed to help with the confusion.

SHOW

Agreed.

No counterplay is no fun. It feels bad to use them, with this lack of indication/feedback.

I remember seeing the devs recognize this in the patch notes a few patches back... not sure what happened to that...

Elusiin

Sagetim wrote: »

I remember in the past that if you were hidden and someone cast a detection potion you can tell that you were being detected by the eye ball opening. Now you have know clue that someone used a detection potion and can see you they just run up to you and start killing you. You are left wording if the game/skill is broken (again).

If you are hit with Magelight/ Expert Hunter skill line / Revealing flare you know that you can been seen. With a detection potions you can only guess and wonder if it's the game or a potion.
This feels like something that needs to be fixed to help with the confusion.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!! So many times I've been cloaked or sneaking, and an enemy player will run right at me and kill me. There needs to be some kind of effect, sound, or something that indicates that!!

Anyron

if you are smart and you prepare for it its not big issue. detection potion has short duration.

i always, when fight starts, spawn shadow image and i keep running from it while doing damage. if opponent is melee its easy and if isnt, i just cloak myself to let ranged player get to me with their detect pots

if you are then in trouble, cast vigor, shadow immage teleport and cloak/sneak it away. you can even heal yourself with rally in cloak. let them waste their resources for spamming aoes and put their potion on cooldown. it hurts them more than you because you can regen everything in cloak


it doesnt work every time but its certainly better than only relying on cloak alone.

Tommy_The_Gun

Oh, so that is what happened in IC ?

I was farming new leads and I kept wondering why people are able to target me with single target abilities despite me being in stealth and not detected.... Also I was not in a "Obvious" spot. I just got attacked out of nowhere a couple of times (while I invisible / stealthed) by someone who apparently was also invisible.... (No "eye", or Mark or Mage light or my character suddenly changing crouch stealth animation, nothing, no indication at all).

So, if there is not even an indicator that you got pulled out of stealth / invisibility, and on your end things still appears as if you were not detected, then yes, something needs to be done about it.

At this point it is not even about counter-play, it is more about the game ignoring its own mechanics...

But, the absolute worst and unbalanced thing is that you can use detection potion AND STILL REMAIN HIDDEN YOURSELF !
It should not be possible to do. I mean you want to detect someone - then you should be exposed too. Risk & reward. It is one or the other. Either you hide, or try to find some one who hides, not both at the same time... This is what mainly imho makes detect pots broken. Sure, lack if indication is one thing, but the fact that you can remain hidden while you active detect pots and the player you detect is detected by "nothing" on their end... it is just pfff... what the...

Sagetim

This seriously needs to be fixed.

Gilvoth

agreed

blktauna

I've been getting this alot recently in cyrodil. It also seems that Sentry has no range limit so they can pop you and tell the teammate where you are. You will have no idea as the eye doesnt pop. I've been run down from the front, while not in LOS, hidden and using cloak. The person comes right for me as if I'm standing up and waving at them.

WabanakiWarrior

Anyron wrote: »

if you are smart and you prepare for it its not big issue. detection potion has short duration.

i always, when fight starts, spawn shadow image and i keep running from it while doing damage. if opponent is melee its easy and if isnt, i just cloak myself to let ranged player get to me with their detect pots

if you are then in trouble, cast vigor, shadow immage teleport and cloak/sneak it away. you can even heal yourself with rally in cloak. let them waste their resources for spamming aoes and put their potion on cooldown. it hurts them more than you because you can regen everything in cloak


it doesnt work every time but its certainly better than only relying on cloak alone.

This.