Companions drawing aggro

ookami007

I have Mirri set up as straight healer and she constantly draws aggo from my DPS, even though she's done nearly no healing. She's drawing more aggro than my wife when my wife and I group and she heals me.

WHY?!

PigofSteel

Its all ok

Belegnole

ookami007 wrote: »

I have Mirri set up as straight healer and she constantly draws aggo from my DPS, even though she's done nearly no healing. She's drawing more aggro than my wife when my wife and I group and she heals me.

WHY?!

Wish I knew why, because my pocket healer is drawing agro too.

ookami007

PigofSteel wrote: »

Its all ok

Given the amount of aggro, I would disagree. All is not okay.

Athan1

ookami007 wrote: »

She's drawing more aggro than my wife when my wife and I group and she heals me.

I really thought this was going to be something along the lines of "She's drawing more aggro than my wife when she's angry"

kargen27

If she has a destruction staff she will draw aggro then keep backing away to do ranged light attacks until the bad thing you are fighting resets.

ADarklore

ookami007 wrote: »

I have Mirri set up as straight healer and she constantly draws aggo from my DPS, even though she's done nearly no healing. She's drawing more aggro than my wife when my wife and I group and she heals me.

WHY?!

I have mentioned this many times too... Companions have 'taunt' abilities that we can equip IF we want to them to draw aggro... if they are not equipped, clearly we don't want them to draw aggro away from us players.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is ZOS going to do anything about this? Surely healer and DPS Companions shouldn't be drawing aggro away from players who are doing so much more damage... especially given that we can specifically equip our Companions to be a Tank if we want one.

DarcyMardin

Yeah, I’ve taken to back-barring a taunt on my non-tank characters just to get mobs off my companions.

Coatmagic

+1 : These two dimwits draw more agro than combat pets which would be fine if they could be used up close and personal without falling over, but this is not the case. Had multiple world bosses RESET by the idjit things today. Good times.

Hapexamendios

I just let them handle it until I'm finished with the rest. If they die, they die.

Ravensilver

This is really frustrating.

Every mob goes first to Mirri and I can block and dd on the mob as much as I like, they ignore me and hit Mirri instead. I spend more time diverting energy and game tactics away from my target and towards 'protecting' Mirri.
If Companions are meant to drop dead all the time, I'm not sure that I need one... >.> I can drop dead all on my own, without having to spend the time worrying about a companion...

radiostar

I know it looks like they /follow your footsteps on the overhead map. But they are really off to one side, and that might be pulling aggro near enemies. I've had it happen even when we are in sneak too. They get too close to enemies, even though I am at a safe distance.

Sarannah

Yeah, the companions draw WAY too much aggro, and WAY too fast. I have mine both set-up as a ranged DPS, and they burst enemies the second I drop an aoe. Instantly drawing any mobs aggro, and running them out of my aoe's. The best solution would be to not let companions draw aggro at all, unless they have a tauntskill slotted.

Haven't tried them with any other specs yet.

PS: My Bastian is level 17, and my Mirri is level 12.

ADarklore

I was disappointed reading the patch notes today and not seeing that this had been fixed.

Sirona_Starr

The other thing is, if you try to set up a companion as a tank, there is a huge deficit regarding some kind of block ability/skill that gets triggered.

I kind of enjoyed trying to get Bastian positioned as a tank, so I could take advantage of that and go dps. It took some thought, and was a different type of challenge, which, I initially really enjoyed. However, I found myself focusing more on making sure he was healthy enough, than I was spending on dps, and myself, and the other player in the group with her companion. As a tank set up, he didn't really draw aggro, I would aggro, then he would tank, in theory. Often he would tank the wrong thing, even though I targeted a boss, in a group of mobs.

With bosses, knowing there is a one-shot, or big damage hit coming, he cannot block it, so, essentially is going to be dead.
So, until there is some kind of block skill, I don't see how he can continue in that role. He will become a dps, and Mirri, I guess will become a healer.

Dean340

there is no DPS or healing aggro in this game afaik
if no one taunts, the mobs bounce from player to player to companion, etc
if you don't want the mobs to go after your companion, you better have a taunt on your bar

hrothbern

If you do as human player a LA or HA on a NPC, you will draw aggro.
Stopping aggro by companions means stopping them doing LAs.

From what I observe:
if you start attacking a NPC and your companion then also attacks that NPC with a LA, the aggro will stay on you.
If you start with a AOE over time nothing much is defined in the eyes of your companion or the NPCs.

EDIT
What you need to do is to keep defined pressure on a NPC to make sure that your companion aims it LAs on that NPC where you keep on drawing aggro.
If you stop keeping pressure by continuously spamming AOEs like impulse on a group, or by continuously spamming a targetted ability or LA-HA on a NPC, your companion will make itself a choice which NPC to target for an attack, for that LA (even when you have only heal abilities on your companion).
At that moment your companion draws aggro from that NPC.

madrab73

ookami007 wrote: »

I have Mirri set up as straight healer and she constantly draws aggo from my DPS, even though she's done nearly no healing. She's drawing more aggro than my wife when my wife and I group and she heals me.

WHY?!

It's part of group combat mechanics. If your tank drops taunt on a boss the member doing most healing is treated like a soft taunt. Almost certain to be this you are seeing. Try slotting a taunt to see if it changes?

matterandstuff

One thing I'm noticing that just plays really strangely is that if I'm trespassing somewhere for a quest and I run through past the guards to try to minimise heat and bounty with Mirri out, Mirri will just attack and kill them all anyway.

She hates the Dark Brotherhood if people use the Blade of Woe, but has an "I'll kill you all!" attitude towards guards.

LadySinflower

I have Bastian set up as a tank but he's frustrating me. He's not drawing aggro and he's so far away from me that often by the time he shows up I've already killed the mobs. If I want him to hold aggro, I have to hit something first and then back off to give him enough time to arrive. I also have to watch which NPC I'm targeting. Bastian will constantly switch to taunting whatever NPC I'm fighting with.

He's also driving me nuts because he's "mourning" me when I'm not dead. He'll start out by screaming "No!" Then he'll make assorted threats at whatever "killed" me. Finally he will walk around saying stuff like "You will be remembered, friend!" and "I will honor your soul dear friend!" Or something similar. Meantime I'm standing right there. I don't know how to get him to stop. Unsummoning him and bringing him back don't work. It's really beyond annoying.

On a positive note, I was so proud of him when he learned to interrupt! He's pretty good at it now. I can see the potential even if he will always be somewhat weak. They had to do that because they really don't want people completely soloing the game. If the companion was strong enough to replace other players, you know you'd never use the dungeon finder again.

Abigail

LadySinflower wrote: »

I have Bastian set up as a tank but he's frustrating me. He's not drawing aggro and he's so far away from me that often by the time he shows up I've already killed the mobs. If I want him to hold aggro, I have to hit something first and then back off to give him enough time to arrive. I also have to watch which NPC I'm targeting. Bastian will constantly switch to taunting whatever NPC I'm fighting with.

Use Pet Attack ("Y-Left Click") to have your companion attack first. It will easily hold aggro.

LadySinflower

Abigail wrote: »

LadySinflower wrote: »

I have Bastian set up as a tank but he's frustrating me. He's not drawing aggro and he's so far away from me that often by the time he shows up I've already killed the mobs. If I want him to hold aggro, I have to hit something first and then back off to give him enough time to arrive. I also have to watch which NPC I'm targeting. Bastian will constantly switch to taunting whatever NPC I'm fighting with.

Use Pet Attack ("Y-Left Click") to have your companion attack first. It will easily hold aggro.

Thank you. I've never had a toon with pets before so I didn't know about the pet attack thing. I've never run a sorc, warden, or even a necro.

Ragged_Claw

Yeah I have the same issue, Bastian is miles away and pulls the mobs out of my aoes and ultimates. He's set up as a healer atm. It's kind of frustrating. Guess all I can do is slot a taunt, but as I'm a dps I'd rather not waste a slot.

Gundug

You can manage mobs with a chain ability, like the dragonknight Fiery Grip or Fighters Guild Silver Leash. Although these are just a soft taunt, they will hold aggro on an enemy like a true taunt does, as long as no one has used an actual taunt on the target. If you are doing a lot of solo play, or group play without a proper tank, a chain ability is very useful for stacking trash for quick and efficient killing anyway.