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Healer PVP - Help Please!

  • exeeter702
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    Austacker wrote: »
    Reporting back and have to sadly admit that even with all the advice and guides, I'm still having a fair amount of trouble performing the role at the moment.

    Burst in this meta is just stupidly high. It doesn't matter what I pop, I just cannot outlast the avalanche of incoming damage and I just get out resourced in the end. I know it's a 'me' problem more than anything as other dedicated PvP Healers are almost damn unkillable, where I tend to last 20 seconds at best in combat. I need to just 'git gud' and that takes a lot of time, patience and practice.

    I find solo queue for Battlegrounds so hit and miss, it's a complete roll of the dice if you're going to have any fun or not. More often than not, I'll bang my head against a wall and give up. So many Solo queue PvPers in this game have tunnel vision it's really frustrating.

    Maybe I need to join a dedicated PvP guild? Maybe...

    FENG RUSH put up a GREAT guide today on his Battleground setup (he prefers the small scale PvP) and I'm trying so hard to learn from him as he really knows what he's doing but so far, it's not working for me at all, but he's showing me that it CAN be done - it just takes a long time and a lot of practice to get there.

    I tend to enjoy healing large scale PvP more though, especially during this event. It's easier to NOT get focused in big battle and Cyrodiil has a lot more to do than just straight up kill stuff to make it interesting.

    I'm still hanging in there, but I have to say the learning phase of this role is a LOT harder than PvE healing and can be a lot more frustrating.

    I really do get it why there's so few dedicated PvP healers in this game. There's almost no incentive at all to do the role.

    But I keep trying... cursing... throwing up hands... yelling at my solo queue team mates... get focused and crushed... scream.... queue again.

    #PvPHealerLyfe

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    Large scale healing will never improve you as a healer because the burden of actual performance is much lighter. Small scale forces you to deal with dedicated pressure as well as putting a magnifying glass onto your build to determine if it actually works. Large scale cyrodil healing affords you so much in terms of overhealing and a less refined ability setup. It's why the earlier build that was linked here I did not consider particularly good because of the overabundance of healing skills, and no way to pressure an enemies life as well as no reliable CC to help create space for yourself and teammates as well as pressuring enemy stamina bars to help damage dealers secure kills.

    A great healer in small scale will universally translate that ability to large scale will far less effort, it's just lower stakes and less difficult. If you want to really sharpen your edge and learn healing in pvp, you need to force yourself to actually pvp where every GCD matters and can mean the difference between death or life. Large scale becomes childs play by comparison and is more about the ability selection on your build in coordination with the raid group, and making sure you are dumping enough healing throughput out across multiple targets.

    I know how this is going to sound but frankly there are far too many people in eso that ONLY ever heal in cyrodil in raid groups as zero damage tanky heal bots that consider themselves good healers in pvp because they can time ultimates and tank up while LOSing.
    Edited by exeeter702 on July 3, 2021 9:18PM
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    If I had to create a hierarchy in terms of difficulty:

    Organized Small-Scale > Raid Healing > Everything Else

    A good portion of success doing anything in PvP is simply a function of how much PvP'ing you've already done and, as a result, how well your instincts and your ability to read the battlefield have been honed. Your actual build is completely secondary to your cumulative experience and skill.

    An experienced PvP healer will see the player creeping up on their flank and anticipate the incoming Dawnbreaker combo, will Roll-Dodge through the stamDen a few seconds after they see them cast their Shalks, can feel the hungry gaze of stamBlades on them when their group members stray too far away, will pre-emtively throw down HoTs and pop their Barrier when they recognize an impending ult-dump, etc. You can't really teach that it's just something that you learn after you fail in those situations and then realize that it's on you to overcome them.

    All of which is to say that you shouldn't worry too much about dying unless it's to the same thing again and again. Dying in PvP is usually beneficial in the sense that you can almost always learn something from it and then use that to improve your own play.
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