ESO New Intro Cinematic!

Iccotak

ESO has a new intro cinematic that brings things back to the core base game experience, while still alluding that there are other dangers threatening Tamriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexKwsE9x2M

I have to say that this is a pretty great intro, it shows the stakes, the Three Banner War, and shows off the world you are going to be exploring - I think in some ways it is actually better than the original intro (which was the best one out of all of the "Chapter" intros imo)

This is MUCH better than "Chapter Intros" especially for new players getting into the game for the first time. It has better context and direction. Good Job! 👍

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As a slight criticism though, I wish the overland gameplay was as exciting as this intro made it look.

- Daedra hordes pouring out of the anchors and roaming the lands - even attacking cities!
- Daedric Titans flying around
- Dangerous Bosses that wander the open world zones

And other stuff like how;
- Enemies were attacking in actual groups larger than just three (and god forbid encouraging players to work together in an MMO outside of required group content)
- Large Battles with NPCs that were actually fighting each other and seeking out combat
- nice little details & touches like how animals were wandering the zone (like the bugs flying in Valenwood)

This intro made ESO look way more sandbox than it currently is right now and I hope they can achieve that in the gameplay - also fighting an enemy army/hordes sounds like a REALLY awesome game activity.

But what about you - what do you think about this new intro?

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ADarklore

Iccotak wrote: »

ESO has a new intro cinematic that brings things back to the core base game experience, while still eluding that there are other dangers threatening Tamriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexKwsE9x2M

I have to say that this is a pretty great intro, it shows the stakes, the Three Banner War, and shows off the world you are going to be exploring - I think in some ways it is actually better than the original intro (which was the best one out of all of the "Chapter" intros imo)

As a slight criticism though, I wish the overland gameplay was as exciting as this intro made it look.
- Daedra hordes pouring out of the anchors and roaming the lands - even attacking cities!
- Daedric Titans flying around
- Dangerous Bosses that wander the open world zones

And other stuff like how;
- Enemies were attacking in actual groups larger than just three (and god forbid encouraging players to work together in an MMO outside of required group content)
- Large Battles with NPCs that were actually fighting each other and seeking out combat
- Bugs actually flying around the forest (nice little details & touches)

This intro made ESO look way more sandbox than it currently is right now and I hope they can achieve that in the gameplay - also fighting an enemy army/hordes sounds like a REALLY awesome game activity.

But what about you - what do you think about this new intro?

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I honestly think this was an OLD intro, it has nothing to do with Blackwood that I can tell... I'm not sure why they haven't put a Blackwood specific cinematic up instead of this base game one. This one seem to focus on the three banners war, which was the original base game premise... but now the game has grown, so why bring back the original focus I'm not sure.

shkkf

This one saw Razum'dar, this one as such is content!

Iccotak

ADarklore wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

ESO has a new intro cinematic that brings things back to the core base game experience, while still eluding that there are other dangers threatening Tamriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexKwsE9x2M

I have to say that this is a pretty great intro, it shows the stakes, the Three Banner War, and shows off the world you are going to be exploring - I think in some ways it is actually better than the original intro (which was the best one out of all of the "Chapter" intros imo)

As a slight criticism though, I wish the overland gameplay was as exciting as this intro made it look.
- Daedra hordes pouring out of the anchors and roaming the lands - even attacking cities!
- Daedric Titans flying around
- Dangerous Bosses that wander the open world zones

And other stuff like how;
- Enemies were attacking in actual groups larger than just three (and god forbid encouraging players to work together in an MMO outside of required group content)
- Large Battles with NPCs that were actually fighting each other and seeking out combat
- Bugs actually flying around the forest (nice little details & touches)

This intro made ESO look way more sandbox than it currently is right now and I hope they can achieve that in the gameplay - also fighting an enemy army/hordes sounds like a REALLY awesome game activity.

But what about you - what do you think about this new intro?

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I honestly think this was an OLD intro, it has nothing to do with Blackwood that I can tell... I'm not sure why they haven't put a Blackwood specific cinematic up instead of this base game one.

This one seem to focus on the three banners war, which was the original base game premise... but now the game has grown, so why bring back the original focus I'm not sure.

This is the new intro but it focuses on older content because it is still the core experience of the game that is still relevant - no matter if you are an old or new player.

The new intro uses old dialogue to alude to other threats, it's nice subtle foreshadowing

"Those who would destroy Tamriel, seek out dangers to their dark plots"

ZOS is done doing new intros & tutorials for every chapter - and instead focused on improving the beginning experience and giving the player better context and direction for the core game. (Which is a design choice I agree with)

Also as an ES game its good to just start players in the base game and let them go where-ever they want, which is what the new tutorial does - though I still think the old tutorial was still the best one out of all of them.

It has been proven in the past that starting new players in the latest chapters and not providing context for the core game experience was a plain Bad idea. This is a much better start in my opinion

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VaranisArano

ADarklore wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

ESO has a new intro cinematic that brings things back to the core base game experience, while still eluding that there are other dangers threatening Tamriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexKwsE9x2M

I have to say that this is a pretty great intro, it shows the stakes, the Three Banner War, and shows off the world you are going to be exploring - I think in some ways it is actually better than the original intro (which was the best one out of all of the "Chapter" intros imo)

As a slight criticism though, I wish the overland gameplay was as exciting as this intro made it look.
- Daedra hordes pouring out of the anchors and roaming the lands - even attacking cities!
- Daedric Titans flying around
- Dangerous Bosses that wander the open world zones

And other stuff like how;
- Enemies were attacking in actual groups larger than just three (and god forbid encouraging players to work together in an MMO outside of required group content)
- Large Battles with NPCs that were actually fighting each other and seeking out combat
- Bugs actually flying around the forest (nice little details & touches)

This intro made ESO look way more sandbox than it currently is right now and I hope they can achieve that in the gameplay - also fighting an enemy army/hordes sounds like a REALLY awesome game activity.

But what about you - what do you think about this new intro?

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I honestly think this was an OLD intro, it has nothing to do with Blackwood that I can tell... I'm not sure why they haven't put a Blackwood specific cinematic up instead of this base game one. This one seem to focus on the three banners war, which was thel original base game premise... but now the game has grown, so why bring back the original focus I'm not sure.

ZOS has made a new tutorial, one that allows players to pick which Chapter zone they want to start in, so it doesn't make sense to focus purely on Blackwood. This seems intended to be a permanent intro, much like how the tutorial will get added to, but not replaced with the next Chapter.

And the Base game is still the majority of the game's content. For new players who don't pre-order the new Chapter, the base game is the majority of the content they own. The Three Banners war is still raging in Cyrodiil and in the setting at large. It may be strange to think of it when I finished the base game content years ago, but this cinematic does a great job of "setting the stage" for the wider world of ESO. That's pretty important when new players will eventually move beyond Blackwood or when next year's new players arrive for the Chapter.

Starlight_Whisper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36tayDTjTs
The missing real intro

👀 Insightfuls please

GenjiraX

Do you mean “allude”? Or am I not understanding your meaning?

ADarklore

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

The missing real intro

👀 Insightfuls please

YES! That's the one I was expecting.

Iccotak

GenjiraX wrote: »

Do you mean “allude”? Or am I not understanding your meaning?

oops you're right - I'll make that spelling correction

Iccotak

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36tayDTjTs
The missing real intro

👀 Insightfuls please

The Chapter Trailer cinematics have so far never been in the game - so I was not expecting that to be the case now

What's more important in the new player experience and I am glad that ZOS chose to prioritize that in order to make a better experience for players getting into the game AND as a personal note I prefer to play the story content in order - so giving me a Base Game intro (while still giving others the option to go to the chapters) is a good compromise so far.

Starlight_Whisper

Iccotak wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36tayDTjTs
The missing real intro

👀 Insightfuls please

The Chapter Trailer cinematics have so far never been in the game - so I was not expecting that to be the case now

What's more important in the new player experience and I am glad that ZOS chose to prioritize that in order to make a better experience for players getting into the game AND as a personal note I prefer to play the story content in order - so giving me a Base Game intro (while still giving others the option to go to the chapters) is a good compromise so far.

No I think it was bug what we actually saw. I do like original one but as people pointed out it's truly the old one

Iccotak

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36tayDTjTs
The missing real intro

👀 Insightfuls please

The Chapter Trailer cinematics have so far never been in the game - so I was not expecting that to be the case now

What's more important in the new player experience and I am glad that ZOS chose to prioritize that in order to make a better experience for players getting into the game AND as a personal note I prefer to play the story content in order - so giving me a Base Game intro (while still giving others the option to go to the chapters) is a good compromise so far.

No I think it was bug what we actually saw. I do like original one but as people pointed out it's truly the old one

No - this was the Old Intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6070A_hi8

The New Intro focuses on old content but it is still a new intro (it is also clearly the new intro as it uses new assets that came AFTER the old intro like Naryu's outfit from Morrowind chapter and the Lyris armor)

magnusthorek

Man... if the rumoured Netflix series of ESO (or TES in general) look anything like ZOS' cinematics could be THE TV Show I've been expecting for years (and I don't say this only because I like TES or ESO)

DMuehlhausen

Honestly when that video started playing. My first thought was OMG how much did ZoS screw this up. Did they roll back everything to 2004 with a new video, since I saw the prophet and stuff walking and it talked about Molag Bal...thankfully that wasn't the case lol

BlueRaven

I love that it used the game engine for this.

Sharrum

Easy enough to see its a NEW trailer: Raz and Naryu have their updated outfits,not the base game ones.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Ty for posting this! I think it looks very good. Always loved that little detail of cultists getting sucked by the gates, glad they showed it in the trailer

Elsonso

ADarklore wrote: »

I honestly think this was an OLD intro, it has nothing to do with Blackwood that I can tell... I'm not sure why they haven't put a Blackwood specific cinematic up instead of this base game one. This one seem to focus on the three banners war, which was the original base game premise... but now the game has grown, so why bring back the original focus I'm not sure.

Because... this is where the game starts.

SeaGtGruff

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Honestly when that video started playing. My first thought was OMG how much did ZoS screw this up. Did they roll back everything to 2004 with a new video, since I saw the prophet and stuff walking and it talked about Molag Bal...thankfully that wasn't the case lol

My first thought was, "Huh, ZOS put together an intro cinematic that goes all the way back to the Main Story and base game zones in reaction to all of the criticisms people have been giving them about how confusing the story is to new players." I'm not sure if that's really why they went this way, but I think it was a great move.

Iccotak

I would really like to see a Daedric army roaming the country side in the Cyrodil War Zone - that'd be awesome to see and fight

RedMuse

I find the new intro video to be A+ work. Not so much because it spurred me into making another because in all honesty it doesn't take that much to do that, but because it gave me that Brand New Game feel that I get when I begin a game I haven't played before. That thrill of something new and exciting, that I can't wait to get started and explore, that is very hard to reproduce once I get more familiar with the game.

But the trailer managed to recapture that and even here the next day that feeling lingers. So thumbs up for this trailer, to me it is a job very well done indeed.

Kowalzky

Yea, daedric invasions would be pretty cool and mix things up. Could even have them attack keeps based on which faction is dominating to help put them on the defensive some.

HoneyBunBadgers

I love the new trailer, it's soo hype! Makes me want to create some new characters in the other alliances and revisit old zones again. I love that it incorporates older eso content with new eso content while showing that there are still threats and adventures to be had all over tamriel.

Slyclone

Loved it, but it would have helped my hamsters to load at least 50% of it ahead of time.

Iccotak

Imagine if werewolves actually behaved in the game like they do in the video

You're exploring and wandering around - suddenly you spot a Werewolf in the distance who howls and you find yourself being attacked on all fronts by their Pack.

That kind of Sandbox enemy Ai behavior would be awesome in ESO!

Kadraeus

magnusthorek wrote: »

Man... if the rumoured Netflix series of ESO (or TES in general) look anything like ZOS' cinematics could be THE TV Show I've been expecting for years (and I don't say this only because I like TES or ESO)

I'm hoping we do get some sort of Elder Scrolls series like that, but don't expect it to look anything like the cinematic trailers. Those were made by Blur Studio, not Bethesda or ZOS, and there's a reason we only ever see animations of that quality as roughly 5-minute shorts or hour-long movies but never as actual tv series. I won't go into all the mechanics of 3D animation, but it's a time and money issue. Cinematic trailers aren't rendered in real-time like games are. They take MUCH longer to render, and I'm talking hours to days for single frames. Technology is getting better to the point that games of similar quality can be made and rendered in real-time, but it still takes a long time to make photorealistic character models. It just wouldn't be feasible since making a series requires new models for every character, prop, environment, etc. for every episode. That's why most 3D animated shows are super stylized or don't look as good as the animated films they may be a spin-off of. Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and The Bad Batch are two of the best-looking 3D animated shows I've seen, and they're no doubt extremely expensive. The new League of Legends series coming to Netflix looks visually amazing, so I'd hope if we ever got an animated Elder Scrolls series it would be something similar in visual style.

DaiKahn

Iccotak wrote: »

- Daedra hordes pouring out of the anchors and roaming the lands - even attacking cities!
- Daedric Titans flying around
- Dangerous Bosses that wander the open world zones

This is something I've wanted from the start. The MMO Rift has Invasions and I would love if it was possible to have this in ESO (would be similar to your first point)

Dangerous wandering bosses would be amazing instead of static World Bosses

Another thing would be the Deadric portals (blue ones) that pop up. I always thought when they were first discussed that they would be randomly placed... but they ended up being static as well

Anywho, I loved the new intro vid. I always love when we get any vid to be honest

kinguardian

I loved it. But I do love almost all the intros and videos they make. The art is so fantastic.

I really like how they go over the "base" of the story. It explains what is going on at the core and makes you curious about all the other things going on in Tamriel.

I understand what you are saying about fighting bigger groups etc. And yes for some players this can be interesting for me not so much. I love to play solo through Tamriel. When I want to do things in a group I can choose to do that.
And I never do it randomly because of random groups being so toxic.
The not understanding that you can have a high amount of cp by just muddling on on your own. And god forbid if your not so good at group play or your setup is not strong enough and worst of all you do not know the mechanics. Because explaining them is such a waist of your time.
So yeah parts of me want to say yes to what you suggest with more group play in the way you describe but just not with the amount of toxic players around.

I would like the overland enemies to be a little bit more challenging. Especially now we can have a companion that would make sense to me to turn the heat up a little bit.

Also I watched some other trailers of the chapter and WOOOW!!
The big red deadra satan whatever. Mehrunes dagon
He is fantastic, so scary. If they talk about hel and brimstone etc this is what you think the guy in charge looks like.

I can't get enough of the videos.

agegarton

Completely agree with the OP.

These guys give good game trailers / intros.

It was really nice to see a return to the base game storyline. That’s so important for new players and old alike.

XvarleyX

'The imperial throne lies empty due to disconnect'

Iccotak

kinguardian wrote: »

I loved it. But I do love almost all the intros and videos they make. The art is so fantastic.

I really like how they go over the "base" of the story. It explains what is going on at the core and makes you curious about all the other things going on in Tamriel.

I understand what you are saying about fighting bigger groups etc. And yes for some players this can be interesting for me not so much. I love to play solo through Tamriel. When I want to do things in a group I can choose to do that.
And I never do it randomly because of random groups being so toxic.

The not understanding that you can have a high amount of cp by just muddling on on your own. And god forbid if your not so good at group play or your setup is not strong enough and worst of all you do not know the mechanics. Because explaining them is such a waist of your time.
So yeah parts of me want to say yes to what you suggest with more group play in the way you describe but just not with the amount of toxic players around.

I would like the overland enemies to be a little bit more challenging. Especially now we can have a companion that would make sense to me to turn the heat up a little bit.

Also I watched some other trailers of the chapter and WOOOW!!
The big red deadra satan whatever. Mehrunes dagon
He is fantastic, so scary. If they talk about hel and brimstone etc this is what you think the guy in charge looks like.

I can't get enough of the videos.

I think this new intro is a good compromise that solved my issue talked about in my other thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/571355/i-want-the-original-coldharbour-intro-tutorial/p1

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On the note of combat--
I mostly play solo too (with a Tank btw) but I still find Overland combat way too simple and just not engaging.

(I change things some when doing overland to be more aimed for damage but its still tanky.)

I don't want to "Force" players to work together but I do want the overland combat to be more, outside of Dolmens & WBs, to be more engaging.

Enemies in overland just don't do alot - or much of anything - and they are very static. Which makes overland VERY boring despite the writing - I don't want overland gameplay to be a point & click adventure, right now it just feels like a walking simulator. I like my TES questing experience to have risk and danger but Nothing in overland presents any actual danger to the player. (unless you are VERY new)

I think this could be fixed with with some larger groups, more mechanics, and better Ai. More sandbox elements in enemy behavior would go a long way

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