Inventory management

Leslik

For the love of god zos if you must have these huge gear changes every new patch can we please transfer gear direct from one characters inventory to another without the whole deposit to bank log off. log next character. realise you put the divines one in when you meant to put the infused one. log back off. do it right second time. rinse and repeat for other sets.

Every one of those logs wastes 5 mins we could spend playing, or if you play your cards right buying things in your crown store.

I can't think of any quality of life change you could make bigger than this. Collections was great but I still spend huge amounts of time after every new release ferrying gear from one character to another. it's either that or double everybody's inventory space. There are thousands more set pieces than there were at launch yet all we have in improved inventory space is a measly 10 slots if you buy crown store pets to expand and I have bought those expansions and eso+ since launch

barney2525

5 minutes?

Seriously?

Switching characters takes me, on the average, 2 minutes. The current system does encourage the purchase of a Banker tho.

Bigmatt2

I agree with this statement.

I think it would be ideal to have your other toons visible in your primary resident and then you could just walk up to them and go into some type of "management" screen where you can swap things around.

Leslik

Ok fair enough. I'm using 5 mins as the time it take each character to do writs and it's probably 4 but picking which pieces need to be banked before you transfer is time consuming. It's not the same as quickly running between stations for writs. Even with addons to help you classify gear it's not a simple process and any mistake is 2 more 2 minute relogs

Iarao

what we need is MORE STORAGE BOXES.

GreenHere

If I could have just one magical wish to make something just work in ESO, I think it'd be to have something like Destiny Item Manager implemented. DIM is the absolute gold standard for sorting, moving, and organizing your inventory in video games, and I miss it literally every day that I have to suffer ESO's terribly inept implementation.

You could move things to and from your Vault (Bank), between your characters, even equip/unequip stuff, sort things by stats/keywords/synergies with other items, and even a hell of a lot more awesome features that I won't bore you all with. All without even being in the game since it's all done from an app or website. DIM is the ****. Y'all don't even know. We're living in the stone ages by comparison to what Destiny players have available.



A couple tips that have helped me with inventory woes in ESO, though:

If you can unhook yourself from being married to the meta and feeling locked into only using very specific builds/sets, you can make your life somewhat easier by having certain sets "belong" to certain characters. Oh, got you some BSW items? Goes to the mDK! Found that SPC ring you've been looking for? Bung it into the bank so your Warden Healer can scoop it up next time you're on them! Need Major Courage for your team when you're on your Templar Healer? Better get you some Olorime gear, because SPC is taken! Point is, if you don't complicate things by having "overlap" of who needs what pieces of what sets and dealing with duplicate pieces and whatnot, all you need is a simple list of your characters and the sets they keep. Everything else just gets deconned. It's kind of more fun this way, too (subjective, I know) because it helps to define and differentiate character "feels" in a noticeable way. There's enough good sets around now that if you can accept the ~5-10% power difference between "the absolute best" and "yeah, that'll work for what I wanna do!" then you can have unique builds for every character spec combination possible.

Unless you have a specific reason to deviate, only keep the good traits. Divines on 90% of gear for most damage/healing setups, maybe Infused on big pieces for sets that are specifically geared for maximizing Resource pools, and Impenetrable for sets you intend to take into PvP. Sturdy for the Tank sets. Chuck the rest into the abyss. Same deal for weapon traits; only keep the ones you know you need, you hoarder! Stop keeping things that are "close enough" on the off chance that you might one day need that Invigorating Jerkin of Torug's Pact or whatever. Just bite the bullet and farm/Transmute/Reconstruct stuff that you need, and decon all that crap you have in the "maybe someday" category. Someday will never come, until after you deconstruct all that ****... but in the meantime, wouldn't you rather have the inventory space back? You can always farm up the materials and whatnot that you need later, if/when you even need to. Don't let fear of "wasting" materials or whatever actually waste oodles of precious inventory space.

If you have character slots left, make a mule character or two. If not, consider buying ESO when it's on sale so you can create some mules that way. Load them up with non-essential stuff that you want to keep, but don't need to access often. (You can get ESO on Steam right now for like 6 bucks or something, btw!)

Leslik

Yeah. I'd take that bone if I were thrown it but it still takes ages to get gear from character A to character B. Both characters have free inventory space so why the whole put in bank. log off. log on. withdraw from bank rigmarole?

Leslik

GreenHere wrote: »

If I could have just one magical wish to make something just work in ESO, I think it'd be to have something like Destiny Item Manager implemented. DIM is the absolute gold standard for sorting, moving, and organizing your inventory in video games, and I miss it literally every day that I have to suffer ESO's terribly inept implementation.

You could move things to and from your Vault (Bank), between your characters, even equip/unequip stuff, sort things by stats/keywords/synergies with other items, and even a hell of a lot more awesome features that I won't bore you all with. All without even being in the game since it's all done from an app or website. DIM is the ****. Y'all don't even know. We're living in the stone ages by comparison to what Destiny players have available.



A couple tips that have helped me with inventory woes in ESO, though:

If you can unhook yourself from being married to the meta and feeling locked into only using very specific builds/sets, you can make your life somewhat easier by having certain sets "belong" to certain characters. Oh, got you some BSW items? Goes to the mDK! Found that SPC ring you've been looking for? Bung it into the bank so your Warden Healer can scoop it up next time you're on them! Need Major Courage for your team when you're on your Templar Healer? Better get you some Olorime gear, because SPC is taken! Point is, if you don't complicate things by having "overlap" of who needs what pieces of what sets and dealing with duplicate pieces and whatnot, all you need is a simple list of your characters and the sets they keep. Everything else just gets deconned. It's kind of more fun this way, too (subjective, I know) because it helps to define and differentiate character "feels" in a noticeable way. There's enough good sets around now that if you can accept the ~5-10% power difference between "the absolute best" and "yeah, that'll work for what I wanna do!" then you can have unique builds for every character spec combination possible.

Unless you have a specific reason to deviate, only keep the good traits. Divines on 90% of gear for most damage/healing setups, maybe Infused on big pieces for sets that are specifically geared for maximizing Resource pools, and Impenetrable for sets you intend to take into PvP. Sturdy for the Tank sets. Chuck the rest into the abyss. Same deal for weapon traits; only keep the ones you know you need, you hoarder! Stop keeping things that are "close enough" on the off chance that you might one day need that Invigorating Jerkin of Torug's Pact or whatever. Just bite the bullet and farm/Transmute/Reconstruct stuff that you need, and decon all that crap you have in the "maybe someday" category. Someday will never come, until after you deconstruct all that ****... but in the meantime, wouldn't you rather have the inventory space back? You can always farm up the materials and whatnot that you need later, if/when you even need to. Don't let fear of "wasting" materials or whatever actually waste oodles of precious inventory space.

If you have character slots left, make a mule character or two. If not, consider buying ESO when it's on sale so you can create some mules that way. Load them up with non-essential stuff that you want to keep, but don't need to access often. (You can get ESO on Steam right now for like 6 bucks or something, btw!)

I agree with all of this. There are also great addons like personal assistant and FCO Item saver that help paper over these cracks but it should really not be the function of add-ons to make up for a poor inventory management system

lillybit

I've always wanted characters to be placable in houses with access to their inventories, like mini banks. Instead we got houseguests

Leslik

lillybit wrote: »

I've always wanted characters to be placable in houses with access to their inventories, like mini banks. Instead we got houseguests

Anything would be an improvement. I never got into housing so please don't visit mine. it's an *insert profanity here* hole
I have banker etc but everything falls down at storage chests and log times. Since my house is rubbish all my characters get parked in the same place each night which happens to be Rawl'kha

GreenHere

Leslik wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

I've always wanted characters to be placable in houses with access to their inventories, like mini banks. Instead we got houseguests

Anything would be an improvement. I never got into housing so please don't visit mine. it's an *insert profanity here* hole
I have banker etc but everything falls down at storage chests and log times. Since my house is rubbish all my characters get parked in the same place each night which happens to be Rawl'kha

If it makes you feel any better, I'd bet that most of us hoarders and crafters are home-owning vagabonds just like you! Our houses may or may not be furnished and whatnot, but by and large we all log out/in at our crafting hub of choice. Just standing around like creepers until summoned back to the bank, stables, or whatever. :P

It's gotten to the point where I recognize so many of the @Names of the folks that hang out around the Vivec writs boards that I kind of feel like we're neighbors!

Leslik

GreenHere wrote: »

"If it makes you feel any better, I'd bet that most of us hoarders and crafters are home-owning vagabonds just like you! Our houses may or may not be furnished and whatnot, but by and large we all log out/in at our crafting hub of choice. Just standing around like creepers until summoned back to the bank, stables, or whatever. :P

It's gotten to the point where I recognize so many of the @Names of the folks that hang out around the Vivec writs boards that I kind of feel like we're neighbors!

Ok you totally got my number there. I'm definitely a hoarder, just not a housing one

Zyreist

lillybit wrote: »

I've always wanted characters to be placable in houses with access to their inventories, like mini banks. Instead we got houseguests

I would LOVE to be able to place my other characters in my houses with accessible inventories like the companions.. I use the 30 slot boxes as personal barrack boxes split between my various characters and set up my houses as though they're shared residences, with areas suited to each.
Having the ability to setup my various characters in a sort of 'barracks hub' environment next to their personal storage would make trading sets and gear between them a breeze. Especially if I could style them all in one place at the same time. The possibilities are many!

Leslik

Zyreist wrote: »

I would LOVE to be able to place my other characters in my houses with accessible inventories like the companions.. I use the 30 slot boxes as personal barrack boxes split between my various characters and set up my houses as though they're shared residences, with areas suited to each.
Having the ability to setup my various characters in a sort of 'barracks hub' environment next to their personal storage would make trading sets and gear between them a breeze. Especially if I could style them all in one place at the same time. The possibilities are many!

Lol, whoa lets not shoot for the moon here
Simple inventory switching will do. More complex stuff would be a bonus

Mesite

My old account is unusable. I have one templar with spare space. I gave up and got a new account during the recent sale and I use my old account for storage mostly.

Starlight_Whisper

GreenHere wrote: »

If I could have just one magical wish to make something just work in ESO, I think it'd be to have something like Destiny Item Manager implemented. DIM is the absolute gold standard for sorting, moving, and organizing your inventory in video games, and I miss it literally every day that I have to suffer ESO's terribly inept implementation.

You could move things to and from your Vault (Bank), between your characters, even equip/unequip stuff, sort things by stats/keywords/synergies with other items, and even a hell of a lot more awesome features that I won't bore you all with. All without even being in the game since it's all done from an app or website. DIM is the ****. Y'all don't even know. We're living in the stone ages by comparison to what Destiny players have available.



A couple tips that have helped me with inventory woes in ESO, though:

If you can unhook yourself from being married to the meta and feeling locked into only using very specific builds/sets, you can make your life somewhat easier by having certain sets "belong" to certain characters. Oh, got you some BSW items? Goes to the mDK! Found that SPC ring you've been looking for? Bung it into the bank so your Warden Healer can scoop it up next time you're on them! Need Major Courage for your team when you're on your Templar Healer? Better get you some Olorime gear, because SPC is taken! Point is, if you don't complicate things by having "overlap" of who needs what pieces of what sets and dealing with duplicate pieces and whatnot, all you need is a simple list of your characters and the sets they keep. Everything else just gets deconned. It's kind of more fun this way, too (subjective, I know) because it helps to define and differentiate character "feels" in a noticeable way. There's enough good sets around now that if you can accept the ~5-10% power difference between "the absolute best" and "yeah, that'll work for what I wanna do!" then you can have unique builds for every character spec combination possible.

Unless you have a specific reason to deviate, only keep the good traits. Divines on 90% of gear for most damage/healing setups, maybe Infused on big pieces for sets that are specifically geared for maximizing Resource pools, and Impenetrable for sets you intend to take into PvP. Sturdy for the Tank sets. Chuck the rest into the abyss. Same deal for weapon traits; only keep the ones you know you need, you hoarder! Stop keeping things that are "close enough" on the off chance that you might one day need that Invigorating Jerkin of Torug's Pact or whatever. Just bite the bullet and farm/Transmute/Reconstruct stuff that you need, and decon all that crap you have in the "maybe someday" category. Someday will never come, until after you deconstruct all that ****... but in the meantime, wouldn't you rather have the inventory space back? You can always farm up the materials and whatnot that you need later, if/when you even need to. Don't let fear of "wasting" materials or whatever actually waste oodles of precious inventory space.

If you have character slots left, make a mule character or two. If not, consider buying ESO when it's on sale so you can create some mules that way. Load them up with non-essential stuff that you want to keep, but don't need to access often. (You can get ESO on Steam right now for like 6 bucks or something, btw!)

Each my 14 characters has different style to this exactly what I do. I then leave copy of standard let's say meta gear in bank for any of them to use.

8 of my characters are healers so it's easy. Example my dk healers wears shield style Healer gear, while warden has defensive gear

DMuehlhausen

barney2525 wrote: »

5 minutes?

Seriously?

Switching characters takes me, on the average, 2 minutes. The current system does encourage the purchase of a Banker tho.

Ummm, normally you're right, but I have several friends that it takes on average 5-10 minutes after selecting their character to load. Then if you aren't in the house and you put the items in the stash they have another few minutes on a load screen. While this is ultimately on their computer/internet connection I understand the OP

stefj68

we should have some kind of wardrobe, that we could put all our completed set in it, and it should be usuable from any of our characters.

Starlight_Whisper

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

5 minutes?

Seriously?

Switching characters takes me, on the average, 2 minutes. The current system does encourage the purchase of a Banker tho.

Ummm, normally you're right, but I have several friends that it takes on average 5-10 minutes after selecting their character to load. Then if you aren't in the house and you put the items in the stash they have another few minutes on a load screen. While this is ultimately on their computer/internet connection I understand the OP

5 means sounds like average for anyone using HDD. It's what mine was before I moved over to sdd. Even on sdd there heavier load between character screen and back into game before blackwood. Now I guess 40 secs from character screen and same 20 secs or less load screens otherwise on other load screens

Leslik

stefj68 wrote: »

we should have some kind of wardrobe, that we could put all our completed set in it, and it should be usuable from any of our characters.

This too is a good idea. I don't care what form the fix takes as long as there is something to address the time lost shuffling gear

the1andonlyskwex

I would rather have better balance between sets, so I can stop feeling like all of my characters have to share the same gear.

Leslik

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

I would rather have better balance between sets, so I can stop feeling like all of my characters have to share the same gear.

I'd agree with this as well but I think the horse has bolted already. The sets are out there. Some have been rebalanced but I think it's inevitable that only a small proportion of the total number of sets will ever be used. We have plenty of room to play how we want to play. We're just choosing a narrower definition of what sets are actually useful

twev

Leslik wrote: »

Yeah. I'd take that bone if I were thrown it but it still takes ages to get gear from character A to character B. Both characters have free inventory space so why the whole put in bank. log off. log on. withdraw from bank rigmarole?

Because the game isn't made to be 'easy'.

It's made to use your time, and they threw you the bone of making it 'possible' to move stuff, but no 'efficient'.

The more time you spend moving stuff around -> the less time you spend running through content too quickly.