what is the "1"? (ability timer)

mzprx

howdy folks,

when i use an ability that has a time duration it will show on my bar in seconds. awesome. but a strange number 1 also appears in the top right corner. anyone knows what does that 1 mean?

danno8

My gut reaction is stacks, but that makes no sense in this case.

Don't really know. I'm still using ADR since the backbar timers are vastly superior to the new ZoS version.

TequilaFire

Front bar 1, backbar 2?
I'll look at the instructions, oh wait. lol

mzprx

TequilaFire wrote: »

Front bar 1, backbar 2?
I'll look at the instructions, oh wait. lol

i thought so as well, but as you can see i'm on my back bar and it shows 1. so it's not that. no idea what that is, i watched YT videos about the new ability timer but they didn't have any "1" there..

redlink1979

(...) You can also enable timers for the back bar which will display smaller timers for abilities on the ability bar that isn't currently active. (...)

Patch notes has this ^
But the text, as written, got me thinking now: shouldn't it say instead "You can also enable timers for the back bar which will display smaller timers for abilities on the ability bar that is currently active."?
@ZOS_GinaBruno

mzprx

redlink1979 wrote: »

(...) You can also enable timers for the back bar which will display smaller timers for abilities on the ability bar that isn't currently active. (...)

Patch notes has this ^
But the text, as written, got me thinking now: shouldn't it say instead "You can also enable timers for the back bar which will display smaller timers for abilities on the ability bar that is currently active."?
@ZOS_GinaBruno

that was meant to say that when you enable it (the back bar timer) it will show you a tiny timer in the background so you can see when your other bar abilities expire -



that is not it. it would be nice to get some explanation from someone. like devs. 'cause it's irritating and there is no mention of it in the patch notes. what in Oblivion does that "1" mean?

Septimus_Magna

Try Grim Focus on a NB to see if the number increases and its indeed stacks?

mzprx

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Try Grim Focus on a NB to see if the number increases and its indeed stacks?

don't have a NB, sorry about that. but what "stacks" can we talk about in connection with the Unstable Wall of Fire or Harness Magicka? and, as i've previousle mentioned, videos on YT don't show anything like that at all. so it must be new..

ZOS_GinaBruno

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

TequilaFire

Only in ESO. lmao

coop500

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

It is very entertaining XD

essi2

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

My kingdom for a LOL button!

six2fall

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

So the timers will be getting more improvements then? Does that include hopefully getting an actual timer with seconds for the bb abilities? That bar is small & impossible to know how long an ability has left.

zvavi

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

While we are answering community questions, can we know if there is a plan to change the "other bar" timers, or is it there to stay like that?

WrathOfInnos

zvavi wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As entertaining as it is to watch everyone try and solve this mystery, this is something that simply hasn't been fully implemented yet so you can ignore it for now!

While we are answering community questions, can we know if there is a plan to change the "other bar" timers, or is it there to stay like that?

Trying not to get my hopes up, but that must be the answer. The player feedback was unanimous in wanting numbers instead of vague tiny bars for back bar timers. I wish it was finished before going live, but at least it’s confirmed that they’re not done with this feature.

Red_Feather

Maybe you can tell a companion to use an ability on their bar by holding a key and using that slot on your bar?

Inval1d

I thought it was to indicate if you've used the skill in the rotation before switching bars, because the number disappears when you switch bar back and forth

Tannus15

Still just using ADR.
I really don't understand why the designer for this welcome addition didn't look at what people are currently using...

six2fall

Tannus15 wrote: »

Still just using ADR.
I really don't understand why the designer for this welcome addition didn't look at what people are currently using...

They probably did but cant just copy someone er else's work without paying them.

silvereyes

six2fall wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Still just using ADR.
I really don't understand why the designer for this welcome addition didn't look at what people are currently using...

They probably did but cant just copy someone er else's work without paying them.

Never stopped Bethesda. Why should it stop ZOS? (*cough* Skyrim Special Edition)

In all seriousness, though, it's not copywritten or trademarked art. ZOS would undoubtedly create their own implementation behind the scenes, so that no code would actually be copied, and nearly all of the design elements (icons, the action bar itself, animations, etc) were designed by ZOS in the first place.

Trust me, if ZOS wanted to copy ADR's layout, they could. This was a deliberate design decision, most likely because they don't like the way ADR shifts the health bar up to accommodate the back bar.

bmnoble

I went back to ADR, just don't like the way ZOS handled the tiny icons for the stuff on the back bar with there version.

joseayalac

They actually admitted being inspired by ADR in the patch notes. Why wouldn't they?

Shame that even though it's such a simple addon, they couldn't implement it well, do they not actually play the game or are they just thaaat lazy?

relentless_turnip

I would really like the back bar icons to be more pronounced. Maybe this is just gamepad, but the tiny indicators don't feel as intuitive as action duration reminders appearance. I do like the overall aesthetic though👍

magnusthorek

Hope to have a better design for it, like bigger icons for the so-called "shift bar" and a numeric countdown instead of a progressbar. I'm sticking with Action Duration Reminder 'til then

Anachronia

I was guessing it was a countdown until the ability cooldown is over, but it is probably not implemented.

MrKraji

I can imagine it being a pain to implement but it would be nice to have some sort of override for what portion of abilities are tracked i.e track the debuff on degeneration and barbed trap rather than the major sorcery and trap duration respectively.

I guess some kind of global toggle to determine if the damaging portion or the buff portion is tracked could work, seeing as most DD's would care about the damage portion while support roles would care about buff uptime.

UntilValhalla13

It would be nice if they would just hire the add-on creators to implement all of the fancy things into the base game, so that we could have nice things on console.

RedFireDisco

Wasn't there talk of ability cooldowns on AoE's?