Naw its broken look all the things or it soon will be next patch

Lord_Bashu

No I just don't pvp, I was in dungeon and so much lag..

now with them removing 24 person groups so you can have your NPC's with you too.. it will get much much worse..

to the person who thinks that there have been "any" improvements to cyro.. right.... try looking at all the threads.. nothing of what you said is true...

Nothing changed last year when we were all unpaid testers, for 2 months, thats 1/6 of year. Nothing.. oh thats not true.. it got worse.. which is stated by many people...


This game is broken... and its going to get more broke in few weeks.. and honestly there is nothing any of us can do about it.. why? cause its about money.. not about us... and money always wins.... always...

Do we want a better app? yes.. do we want this to return to one of the best mmo yes..

But you don't get there by not listening to your customers, you don't get there by making them be beta testers, and you don't do it addressing the real problems...

I can't state the real problems.. since I would be censored...


Lag
Removing or changing skills that been around 5 years
Reducing group size
Adding more junk to the overhead i.e. looks
What if all the lag is caused because of the all the stuff for fashion
Adding NPC's in one of the most social games.. while reducing group size, because of performance.. i mean.. really?
In the last 2 and half years, we have 3 patchs that broke the game for 6 weeks.. 6 weeks.... client crashes, crashes that cause you to reinstall and more..

desperation... they are so worried about selling blackwatch.. that they are trying to give stuff away so you buy... that tells you a lot....

What else can you add to this list..

Alurria

Doom and gloom

Lord_Bashu

but truth...

Alurria

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

but truth...

It's opinion not truth,

Lord_Bashu

No.. its fact.. there is lag.. that is fact.. even in dungeons
They are reducing group size, Fact
There are many many bugs each patch.. fact.
How do you know fashion is not the cause of lag?

Sorry.. its mostly fact..

Maybe its broken is opinion, lol
The rest are facts

Kiralyn2000

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

now with them removing 24 person groups so you can have your NPC's with you too.. it will get much much worse..

...don't companions count towards the 'player' count? So 12-man groups will still be 12 regardless?

etchedpixels

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

now with them removing 24 person groups so you can have your NPC's with you too.. it will get much much worse..

...don't companions count towards the 'player' count? So 12-man groups will still be 12 regardless?

It depends on the context at least on the PTS. In overland if you group 12 guild members up for say a world boss run and they all pull out their companions you'd have 24. Now a) with the current companions you might as well pull out a lemming and b) it won't change anything in reality because the guild will be running 2 x 12 groups on one discord with people getting annoyed at the stupid change and you'll still have 24 people, half a dozen bears, a small flock of flappies and the odd pop up daedroth (and maybe some companions but I doubt it)

Likewise the Alik'r isn't magically going to have half as many people at a dolmen, just the groups will be harder to manage and annoy people more.

barney2525

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

No.. its fact.. there is lag.. that is fact.. even in dungeons
They are reducing group size, Fact
There are many many bugs each patch.. fact.
How do you know fashion is not the cause of lag?

Sorry.. its mostly fact..

Maybe its broken is opinion, lol
The rest are facts

OOoooooo.... and you were doing so well.

Then you threw in the last Fashion statement and ruined your credibility.

It's a ridiculous question. Basing any conclusion on simply Not being able to determine if something is the cause (ie concluding Fashion is a cause of lag because no one can prove it isn't ) is just plain stooopid. You don't even make any attempt to correlate changes in Fashion mechanics with a noticeable increase in lag.

Sloppy investigation

IMHO

WuffyCerulei

Yes but can I have your stuff?

Gundug

I run four totally different spec computers, one of which is marginal for running the game, and get no unusual network lag on any of them. If by lag, you mean framerate drops, that definitely occurs on all of them, but to the point of being choppy and worse to play only with the worst machine I run. If that’s the lag you are referring to in dungeons, see if you can upgrade your video card to something with a reasonable amount of performance, or try lowering some of the video settings.

Other than that specific issue, I don’t know how the game is broken, from my own experience, and your post fails to illustrate your claim. Complaints about companions and group sizes do not equate to a broken game.

SilverBride

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

No.. its fact.. there is lag.. that is fact..

There is only one time I ever remember lagging and relogging fixed it. Instead of blaming the game, look at your pc or console, or your internet connection, or your addons. Because if the game was to blame for the lag it would be a problem for everyone.

crazepdx

Alurria wrote: »

Lord_Bashu wrote: »

but truth...

It's opinion not truth,

Not opinion. I don't pvp anymore just because I hate the lag, skills not working and stuttering. Lately even in pve I can be alone in an instance and still happens. While my ping and latency go through the roof. It's not on my side. I have brand new gaming system that only is used for games and Comcast unlimited business class internet. The only games I experience high ping, loss of frame rate and latency on, is ESO. The performance has gone steadily downhill since Summerset.

ZOS_GregoryV

After review, we have decided to close this thread as it does not seem to be very constructive.

Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg--