Grey Host NA US Prime Time - HOW DO YOU DO IT?

Raevyness

I'll preface this by stating I'm an AU player, so prime time for AU translates into being early hours of the AM for US. I don't often get to play US primetime, aside from weekends and weekdays occasionally.

Recently I've been lucky (or unlucky?) enough to jump on GH NA during what is US prime time. GREAT pvp, loads of people and BIG scale battles! Exactly what I want from my ESO experience.

Only issue is, its basically UNPLAYABLE. I mean sure I'm in AU, so the ping is going to be subpar between 230-300ms (HUGE reduction from the 380-450ms it use to be going back a year ish ago), however, using the same ping in AU prime time, I have flawless game play. I use skills and its an instant fire, instant damage, etc. Real-time game play.
During US Primetime however, on the same level of ping, i'm hitting a skill and its firing 10 seconds later, then all at once... Targets arent taking damage then are taking it all at once in a burst.
Same with inc damage, im not UA then suddenly I get 20 hits at once and instantly dead... My FPS are still quite stable & I'm alright on that front.. I wish there was a way to turn off all visuals as I feel that also influences the lag people get.

Do US people REALLY play like this? With this lag? Surely not?

When I mentioned it in zone I got met with a few comments agreeing that that is their experience as well, and others saying "I use ver 4.4". So what's that? 4.4? Is there some better version of ESO out there I don't have?
Is there a way to make this delay/lag NOT so bad that it's unplayable?
Something in the settings?
I'm playing through the ZOS launcher, not steam if that makes a difference..

Starlight_Whisper

5g wifi I went from 300 latency to 80.

phaneub17_ESO

boop.

Australien

I've had multiple discussions with multiple players from AU/NZ + SE Asia and not one of them has said their latency is anywhere below 240ms. I'd like a screenshot of a 80ms latency please.

DoTHurts

I'm calling BS on 80ms.

I play most days and cross over on US primetime and the absolute best I get is 250+ when there is practically no one around. Pop locked goes to 300+. The thing is, sometimes pop locked with a 300-400 ping things work reasonably well, and at others with 280-300 ping the lag is unplayable, as the OP describes. Then I go to no-cp or standard.

WySoSirius

West Aussie here. Getting lowest 260ping and at highest, you know it's bad. But even in cyrodiil during dead time the ping is 300+ and the difference in response pve vs pvp is disgusting. I can have skills be responsive no problem in pve. But as soon as I port into cyrodiil. Skills don't want to work. When there is noone even in the server. So I wanna know what gives???

ResidentContrarian

I have 41-60 ping during prime time usually, even around faction stack.

Australien

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

I have 41-60 ping during prime time usually, even around faction stack.

Are you located in the US?

Raevyness

Is it to do with the fact that we're porting in from AU? Or what?
Because I can tell you ping at 300 in AU prime time (so around 4am US), I have almost 0 lag, press a skill insta work, etc.
Then with the SAME 300 ping I can log on during US prime time and have a 5-10 second delay! Skills wont work, buffs take 3+ seconds then all activate at once, etc.

Surely this CANT just be because im from AU? Surely others in cyro at the same time are experiencing this?

ResidentContrarian

Australien wrote: »

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

I have 41-60 ping during prime time usually, even around faction stack.

Are you located in the US?

Yes. Rarely ever get disconnected or crash too. Only once every 4 months or so...

Without low ping, I can't imagine running my full damage build...

Starpulsechic

Raevyness wrote: »

Is it to do with the fact that we're porting in from AU? Or what?
Because I can tell you ping at 300 in AU prime time (so around 4am US), I have almost 0 lag, press a skill insta work, etc.
Then with the SAME 300 ping I can log on during US prime time and have a 5-10 second delay! Skills wont work, buffs take 3+ seconds then all activate at once, etc.

Surely this CANT just be because im from AU? Surely others in cyro at the same time are experiencing this?

Im in west aus, and sit on 260-300 ping on AUS prime time, but by comparrison the campaign is dead at AUS primetime comapred to US primetime.

Being in AUS exacerbates the underlying issues of skill delay in cyrodil hence all the testing they have been doing in cyrodil.

Id suggest trying non-cp campaign as you may find it slightly better if your playing from AUS

Australien

Part of the problem is ZoS' use of Akamai. The company routes our connections through multiple locations around the globe before we gain access to the servers. Every time we route through each location more ms are added to our connection. This has been happening for a couple of years now and has been discussed extensively in the forums. It's all fallen on deaf ears.

Raevyness

Starpulsechic wrote: »

Raevyness wrote: »

Is it to do with the fact that we're porting in from AU? Or what?
Because I can tell you ping at 300 in AU prime time (so around 4am US), I have almost 0 lag, press a skill insta work, etc.
Then with the SAME 300 ping I can log on during US prime time and have a 5-10 second delay! Skills wont work, buffs take 3+ seconds then all activate at once, etc.

Surely this CANT just be because im from AU? Surely others in cyro at the same time are experiencing this?

Im in west aus, and sit on 260-300 ping on AUS prime time, but by comparrison the campaign is dead at AUS primetime comapred to US primetime.

Being in AUS exacerbates the underlying issues of skill delay in cyrodil hence all the testing they have been doing in cyrodil.

Id suggest trying non-cp campaign as you may find it slightly better if your playing from AUS

I've played in both Grey Host & Raven Watch and found them both much and much tbh, except there are fewer people in RW.

magnusthorek

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

I have 41-60 ping during prime time usually, even around faction stack.

Then read the topic. This doesn't apply to those blessed by living close to the servers

Australien

Raevyness wrote: »

Is it to do with the fact that we're porting in from AU? Or what?
Because I can tell you ping at 300 in AU prime time (so around 4am US), I have almost 0 lag, press a skill insta work, etc.
Then with the SAME 300 ping I can log on during US prime time and have a 5-10 second delay! Skills wont work, buffs take 3+ seconds then all activate at once, etc.

Surely this CANT just be because im from AU? Surely others in cyro at the same time are experiencing this?

I'm part of a Guild that has members from the EU, Middle East myself from AU and also our NA members. When GH is building in numbers the problems effect all of us. Our NA players are impacted, not quite as much, but it's definitely there. The desync and massive lag spikes made it impossible to play. We would switch to Blackreach but even there we would see problems. With the introduction of disabling proc sets almost everyone has stopped playing in both campaigns. We played in IC for a while but it became boring pretty quickly because of the different style of gameplay.

DoTHurts

Everyone gets lag (doesn’t seem to matter if it’s cp or no cp) when the campaign’s get full and you are near a Zerg it gets bad. Inputs don’t register or get queued. The problem with being in oz is that along with the servers not being able to handle all of the traffic it takes so long for our inputs to get there and then so long to get back we are already dead and just don’t know it yet.

furiouslog

Raevyness wrote: »

Do US people REALLY play like this? With this lag? Surely not?

Yes. Some days it acts like turn-based combat. It's random who it hits, as well - sometimes I'm running around murking people who are standing still or twitching occasionally. Other times I freeze and then I'm dead.

jssriot

Yeah. And honestly, it's not as bad as it used to be. It's still bad. There are still times in Grey Host that big battles around or in keeps are like looking at a flip book, but I guess after so long I've gotten used to it. As long as I don't dc completely.

xv1_me

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

5g wifi I went from 300 latency to 80.

you can have 100g wifi, you will still encounter unplayable lag.

Vevvev

How do I play in it? I don't, I suffer through it and make builds that can fight effectively in it. I try to get as much reliable damage as I can, and it's usually in the form of damage over time abilities.

FantasticFreddie

I haven't had terrible lag lately. No, not even on GH during NA prime time.
It makes not a bit of sense, but I consistently have better performance on an older computer than people do on much newer, specced for gaming machines, and I've often wondered why on earth that is, and if other people have seen that to be the case.

furiouslog

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

I haven't had terrible lag lately. No, not even on GH during NA prime time.
It makes not a bit of sense, but I consistently have better performance on an older computer than people do on much newer, specced for gaming machines, and I've often wondered why on earth that is, and if other people have seen that to be the case.

I'm thinking of dropping my monitor resolution back down to 1080 with a higher framerate for exactly this reason. When I do anything server intensive like trials or Cyrodiil I usually set graphics settings to much lower, and I get fewer lag/freeze/misfire issues.

I don't really know much about hardware stuff, but DX10 was optimized well on older video cards, and ESO used to use that as default. Now it's using DX11, but who knows how that relates to their engine code and whether or not it's optimized for it. ESO is also pretty CPU intensive, and it used to run single core for a while, they updated that a while ago (I want to say Summerset?), but it has not seemed to make things that much better in the long run. They did seem to improve though, right after the last big performance patch. That might just be mental, though.