Zos: "In 2021 we are going to make less new stuff and focus on performance"

FantasticFreddie

And then you didn't.
Look, Blackwood looks pretty cool, ngl. I'm excited for a new trial.
But for the love of God, things are broken. We don't need companions, we could have waited peacefully and patiently until fall for the new chapter, you could have focused on the new CP, fixing the way proc sets work, and making a dent in the huge pile of bugs (that seems to grow every day!) and I've no idea why you didn't.
Your announcement was met with almost universal understanding and positive feedback.
Why are you still trying to maintain a schedule that clearly isn't working?

GenjiraX

Plenty of time yet.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

And then you didn't.
Look, Blackwood looks pretty cool, ngl. I'm excited for a new trial.
But for the love of God, things are broken. We don't need companions, we could have waited peacefully and patiently until fall for the new chapter, you could have focused on the new CP, fixing the way proc sets work, and making a dent in the huge pile of bugs (that seems to grow every day!) and I've no idea why you didn't.
Your announcement was met with almost universal understanding and positive feedback.
Why are you still trying to maintain a schedule that early isn't working?

So one year wait for meaninful content?
Nope not for me

Odovacar

Soon @FantasticFreddie soon...

FantasticFreddie

GenjiraX wrote: »

Plenty of time yet.

Time for what? We are a full 4 months into 2021 next big update is just over a month away, and they 1) have a new system that the universal consensus is fundamentally flawed 2) PS has game-breaking bugs that zos has no way to fix 3) all the usual nonsense on top of this.

BXR_Lonestar

My biggest beef is that inventory/bank search feature seems to have broken a LOT of stuff right now. I can't even list stuff in my guild traders because my inventory won't scroll when I go to sell an item. Before that, it would lag so badly that it would take you forever to go through your inventory or have to change sets. God forbid your a healer or tank needing to swap a 5 piece set for your trial group....

All that trouble for a feature which I'm quite honestly never going to use. I'm on console and fast scrolling through my list with LT/RT is much better than having the ability to type out and search for a specific item.

FantasticFreddie

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

And then you didn't.
Look, Blackwood looks pretty cool, ngl. I'm excited for a new trial.
But for the love of God, things are broken. We don't need companions, we could have waited peacefully and patiently until fall for the new chapter, you could have focused on the new CP, fixing the way proc sets work, and making a dent in the huge pile of bugs (that seems to grow every day!) and I've no idea why you didn't.
Your announcement was met with almost universal understanding and positive feedback.
Why are you still trying to maintain a schedule that early isn't working?

So one year wait for meaninful content?
Nope not for me

Not even a year..... release the new dungeons, delay the launch of the next big chapter for a month or 2, scrap companions entirely until their existing systems are actually working as intended.
I'd rather have a game that works.

FantasticFreddie

I'll give credit where credit is due-- the CP overhaul does seem to be having the intended effect of improving overall lag, particularly in pvp.
I mean, it's not as bad as post-Harrowstorm

scorpius2k1

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

Seraphayel

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

I mean, did any of that stuff even make it into the game? Because it doesn't feel like that.

XvarleyX

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

I'll give credit where credit is due-- the CP overhaul does seem to be having the intended effect of improving overall lag, particularly in pvp.
I mean, it's not as bad as post-Harrowstorm

I wouldn't, because it hasn't.

FantasticFreddie

Seraphayel wrote: »

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

I mean, did any of that stuff even make it into the game? Because it doesn't feel like that.

I think a lot of what they wanted to do got derailed by COVID.
Still, the group finder does break less frequently than it used to, so there is that I guess

scorpius2k1

Seraphayel wrote: »

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

I mean, did any of that stuff even make it into the game? Because it doesn't feel like that.

Much of it did, absolutely which is my point entirely "if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend". I would have to guess that is the reason why they stopped sharing the information because they failed to deliver (at least from a player standpoint). Regardless of the outcome, just having the communication there was a huge plus, now it's silence, frustration, and workarounds.

Jeffrey530

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

GenjiraX wrote: »

Plenty of time yet.

Time for what? We are a full 4 months into 2021 next big update is just over a month away, and they 1) have a new system that the universal consensus is fundamentally flawed 2) PS has game-breaking bugs that zos has no way to fix 3) all the usual nonsense on top of this.

I think is a joke because in your title you miswrote 2121

Spawniaq

Disappointing 😔

scorpius2k1

Jeffrey530 wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

GenjiraX wrote: »

Plenty of time yet.

Time for what? We are a full 4 months into 2021 next big update is just over a month away, and they 1) have a new system that the universal consensus is fundamentally flawed 2) PS has game-breaking bugs that zos has no way to fix 3) all the usual nonsense on top of this.

I think is a joke because in your title you miswrote 2121

Well in defense of OP, it does sometimes feel like it's been 100 years waiting for things like this...

FantasticFreddie

Jeffrey530 wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

GenjiraX wrote: »

Plenty of time yet.

Time for what? We are a full 4 months into 2021 next big update is just over a month away, and they 1) have a new system that the universal consensus is fundamentally flawed 2) PS has game-breaking bugs that zos has no way to fix 3) all the usual nonsense on top of this.

I think is a joke because in your title you miswrote 2121

I would say I haven't had my coffee yet... but I have!
Time for my second cup, apparently!

AuraStorm43

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

And then you didn't.
Look, Blackwood looks pretty cool, ngl. I'm excited for a new trial.
But for the love of God, things are broken. We don't need companions, we could have waited peacefully and patiently until fall for the new chapter, you could have focused on the new CP, fixing the way proc sets work, and making a dent in the huge pile of bugs (that seems to grow every day!) and I've no idea why you didn't.
Your announcement was met with almost universal understanding and positive feedback.
Why are you still trying to maintain a schedule that clearly isn't working?

Are you really shocked? Rich Lambert even admitted they rushed the schedule last year despite covid

The devs have stated they will continue to shove content out the door whether its ready or not

Lyserus

*sign…you people that always yelling "stop new content we need performance update" never know ZOS

they say "we are going to focus on performance and less new content"

they mean "we are going to have less new content"

There is a reason why so many of us oppose the "stop new content to improve performance" idea, you know

Jaimeh

Yeah it doesn't look like they are holding on to that statement, it was probably just to placate players who are fed up with performance issues (and the ever-increasing unfixed bugs), not surprising from ZOS, but still disappointing.

Narvuntien

The content pays the bills.

I have noticed a lot of bugs atm. I am hoping we will get them fixed but it feels like there are more of them. I hope they have enough people working on it to get it done.

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Tethilia

If their goal is to focus on performance, they probably need to break things to see where the problem is. I think it's okay to accept a very bumpy year if the payoff is a more stable game for the future.

SgtNuttzmeg

GenjiraX wrote: »

Plenty of time yet.

Clocks ticking. They had last year and this year and still no demonstrable progress. All they have done is further disenfranchise their veteran players.

Joy_Division

Seraphayel wrote: »

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

I mean, did any of that stuff even make it into the game? Because it doesn't feel like that.

Did you expect "behind-the-scenes" combat ability improvements to do anything?

Tethilia

That said, to me, the chaos in Cyrodil, which I am on the losing side of, tells me that they actually are taking performance seriously this year. I really want them to consider changing their rework of Ring of the Pale Order to keep us Togglevampires relevant, but other than that, I'm hopeful for good changes.

Crash427

Joy_Division wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

This year sounds no different than the last 3+ years. I have to ponder, how different would sales and popularity of ESO be if communication was better, things were re-prioritized and issues resolved instead of the opposite trend. I literally dread every time I hear the word "patch" or "fix" because it seems literally the opposite; fix one thing break many others. ZOS has great and passionate people, why things like this are happening to ESO is confusing to me personally. We can point fingers all day but until something internally changes with the team and how they deploy and prioritize, nothing is going to change.

I remember a time when the performance plan was shared with the community and we felt part of the team in a way.
I miss this version of ZOS.

I mean, did any of that stuff even make it into the game? Because it doesn't feel like that.

Did you expect "behind-the-scenes" combat ability improvements to do anything?

Well their last set of behind the scenes changes did make things noticeably worse

Crash427

Tethilia wrote: »

I'm hopeful

You must be new here.

katanagirl1

I was hoping the “work from home” setup would highlight the lag for the ZOS employees that we as players experience everyday.

Artorias24

https://youtu.be/FWZXuurW2fI

Kosef

IF they actually did a year of straight performance fixes....people would be all on the board griping and complaining about lack of content.