"Procs don't proc procs" destroyed my pve werewolf warden tank build

MADPOZBRO

I've had an ESO account since ESO went live, but took a long break after reaching veteran status due to being overly jaded by all of the grinding having just abandoned World of Warcraft. One of the things I loved about ESO is that they kept the dream alive for whatever interesting ideas that might pop into ones head, which they ceased to do in WoW (i.e. no more hybrid talent tree specs). I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished. Then it was like as if some disgruntled employee from Blizzard came along to crash the party and declare "procs don't proc procs" like some kind of "God modder". I didn't ask to be grouped up in this devs RP situation, but here we are, playing in this brave new world of "procs don't proc procs". I'm sorry if you feel the need to take offense to this personal experience of mine, but don't you have your own personal "I win" button you all like to flaunt in your demonstrations?

MirandaSharp

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

I've had an ESO account since ESO went live, but took a long break after reaching veteran status due to being overly jaded by all of the grinding having just abandoned World of Warcraft. One of the things I loved about ESO is that they kept the dream alive for whatever interesting ideas that might pop into ones head, which they ceased to do in WoW (i.e. no more hybrid talent tree specs). I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished. Then it was like as if some disgruntled employee from Blizzard came along to crash the party and declare "procs don't proc procs" like some kind of "God modder". I didn't ask to be grouped up in this devs RP situation, but here we are, playing in this brave new world of "procs don't proc procs". I'm sorry if you feel the need to take offense to this personal experience of mine, but don't you have your own personal "I win" button you all like to flaunt in your demonstrations?

Don't know what country you live in, but pretty much any central bank in the world has an "I win" button, just like Zos has one as well. They'll press it whenever a player thinks he's winning... Just to teach them a lesson!

MADPOZBRO

MirandaSharp wrote: »

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

I've had an ESO account since ESO went live, but took a long break after reaching veteran status due to being overly jaded by all of the grinding having just abandoned World of Warcraft. One of the things I loved about ESO is that they kept the dream alive for whatever interesting ideas that might pop into ones head, which they ceased to do in WoW (i.e. no more hybrid talent tree specs). I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished. Then it was like as if some disgruntled employee from Blizzard came along to crash the party and declare "procs don't proc procs" like some kind of "God modder". I didn't ask to be grouped up in this devs RP situation, but here we are, playing in this brave new world of "procs don't proc procs". I'm sorry if you feel the need to take offense to this personal experience of mine, but don't you have your own personal "I win" button you all like to flaunt in your demonstrations?

Don't know what country you live in, but pretty much any central bank in the world has an "I win" button, just like Zos has one as well. They'll press it whenever a player thinks he's winning... Just to teach them a lesson!

I kind of got that impression, I'd like to thank them personally for the trigger finger that it has caused me.

MADPOZBRO

Don't they realize the word [snip] has become a household name due to this situation?

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ThoughtRaven

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished.

You spent years farming one dungeon set, one overland set, and a few monster sets?

MADPOZBRO

ThoughtRaven wrote: »

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished.

You spent years farming one dungeon set, one overland set, and a few monster sets?

I have all of the monster sets and their shoulders, except for like maybe one cloth or medium of a couple of sets, but otherwise I got them all. I don't have much to complain about really, but I enjoyed being able to use more than just a handful of monster sets on my werewolf tank.

MADPOZBRO

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

ThoughtRaven wrote: »

MADPOZBRO wrote: »

I had an interesting idea to combine a werewolf warden with a Tormentor set and an Undertaker set, I would then switch out different monster sets that my Undertaker set would proc. I spent years and months farming and grinding to get this all accomplished.

You spent years farming one dungeon set, one overland set, and a few monster sets?

I have all of the monster sets and their shoulders, except for like maybe one cloth or medium of a couple of sets, but otherwise I got them all. I don't have much to complain about really, but I enjoyed being able to use more than just a handful of monster sets on my werewolf tank.

For example, being able to use Symphony of Blades while in werewolf form to bolster the rest of the group was pretty awesome considering I got all the sets from doing pugs. I could have used other aoe healing sets, but Undertaker worked the best, and as for Tormentor, there really isn't any other option for a werewolf tank. They already nerfed the werewolf armor, so now Mighty Chudan is also useless on any fully skilled werewolf. They've been silently scaling things back.

Wolfchild07

I agree. I had some fun werewolf builds that just died after that change and changes to sets. They weren't op, they were just fun to use. The actual problem is procs scaling from stats. They shouldn't. They should have a set number so they can be balanced up or down as needed. Then you still get the same effects, just less or more damage/healing/support.

MADPOZBRO

Wolfchild07 wrote: »

I agree. I had some fun werewolf builds that just died after that change and changes to sets. They weren't op, they were just fun to use. The actual problem is procs scaling from stats. They shouldn't. They should have a set number so they can be balanced up or down as needed. Then you still get the same effects, just less or more damage/healing/support.

I'm grateful to know I'm not alone in this, but what can we do now? I've been looking at some alternatives, but their still isn't anything that compares to what I was able to do with the Undertaker set + Symphony of Blades/Troll King/Chokethorn/Earthgore+Maturation.