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Vampire appearances bugged for 7 years

RealJobasha
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Yes, bugged. And I don't say this only because ZOS has stated that they only change the appearance of things already in game unless there's a visual bug, but because it's genuinely a visual bug. There's absolutely no reason why the paleness layer should be above face and body markings. When my character (theoretically) puts on black lip dye in the morning, why would the black substance suddenly turn pale gray just because she's a vampire? Here's an example:

how it looks in game (left) vs. how it should look, after image editing (right)
vampire_layer_issue.png

It seems like common sense and something that should have been done with Greymoor, you know, the chapter that focuses on *vampires*. Besides, the fix is probably as simple as editing the vampirerace properties like in Skyrim's Creation Kit that would only take 30 seconds to do and could be packaged in an incremental update. Or, I don't know, rearranging skin overlays to put the vampire layer near the bottom which would take an equally short amount of time.

Refusing to fix this is consumer unfriendly as well. I bought the face markings pack from the crown store so I can customize my character's face freely, but now that I'm a vampire, I'm not getting what I paid for here. All the markings, face and body, are washed out, ugly and, in some cases, practically invisible.

I mean, come on. 7 years and no one has had the time to fix this? There's a mountain of things people have been asking for for years which take no time to fix at all. Rather than spending the resources to make another costume to put in crates, separate a team from the main body of designers for a few weeks and dedicate them to fixing these issues, which can be fixed in the same amount of time it takes to registry edit some internal setting on windows.

And as a sort of side note, a close friend of mine, who's a diehard Elder Scrolls fan, refuses to play this game because, in her words, "It's not an elder scrolls game". She can't identify a bug and boot up the creation kit to fix it. She would have to wait, helplessly, for the developers to (never) fix the bug.
  • Sephyr
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    I don't think this will ever be fixed because people don't care about vampires. "It's a curse, deal with it" is such a cop out.
  • ArchMikem
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    Sephyr wrote: »
    I don't think this will ever be fixed because people don't care about vampires. "It's a curse, deal with it" is such a cop out.

    True cop out tho.
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  • RealJobasha
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    True cop out tho.

    still a cop out tho
  • Cryptor
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    it's an esthetic choice, not a bug.
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  • RealJobasha
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    Cryptor wrote: »
    it's an esthetic choice, not a bug.

    That's not true. Aesthetic choices are like putting faint red veins in the vampire texture, not negligently putting the overlay overtop other layers, washing them out.

    I already gave the example of why lip dye wouldn't suddenly become pale gray when someone becomes a vampire. That lip dye is not part of one's skin, it's a substance one puts on their skin. Same can be said for warpaints and tattoos, since tattoos don't actually dye your skin, they're pockets of ink (which is, again, a substance, not your body) underneath your skin, otherwise tattoos would disappear in a week when your skin naturally sheds.
  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    LOL. Cute Vampires. My Clan Mom has the red lipstick and it seems to work fine:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NK4woJHnpJjizjmSuXxYk5Eidwut9QyE/view?usp=sharing
  • RealJobasha
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    My Clan Mom has the red lipstick and it seems to work fine

    Yeah certain crown store ones seem to work. This is most likely due to them being set to a different layer which is higher than base game cosmetic markings. There's a few skins that will completely hide the vampire skin as well, which I think is because they're set to the same layer vampirism is on which in turn causes a conflict and the game choses your equipped collectible skin over your default vampire skin.
  • CableBomb
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    Thank you for the entertainment.
  • RealJobasha
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    This is basically what I'm saying, to put it visually. Not difficult to do.
    vampirelayers.jpg
  • Sephyr
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Sephyr wrote: »
    I don't think this will ever be fixed because people don't care about vampires. "It's a curse, deal with it" is such a cop out.

    True cop out tho.

    It isn't a true cop out. It's an unrealistic cop out.

    Let me put it this way. If people are going on the realism of a curse -- they should be also advocating for the realism of decomposition. Tattoos don't fade when you're dead. If that were the case Ötzi's tattoos would hardly be seen with intricate markings all over his body and he's been dead since at least 3100 BCE. A curse wouldn't have any affect over that. More so over lipstick, eyeshadows, and body paint. Those three wear off due to the elements. Not because some 'curse'.

    And before people go "LOL @ realism", anyone using the whole "It's a curse" are trying to do the same thing.
  • lihentian
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    so true.. but will Zos fix it? lets see
  • NeKryXe
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    They never fix visual bugs. 2 years ago I reported something that they damaged during one update, and until now they didn't do anything. And it was something that was good for sometime. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/450795/visual-bug-on-silken-ring-guards
  • Nowa133
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    Yep, we still get major quests bugged for 4 years or so... I guess they don't care much about it. (Forever holds your peace, looking at you) Sent several tickets and nothing, nada. (Automatic response and silence) I will not hold my breath. Oh, you're using that costume with gramma panties, right? I forgot about the name... They need to fix that too.
  • RealJobasha
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    Nowa133 wrote: »
    Oh, you're using that costume with gramma panties, right? I forgot about the name... They need to fix that too.

    To be fair, the granny panties isn't a bug, but it is ugly and detracts from the aesthetic of the costume.
  • RealJobasha
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    NeKryXe wrote: »

    Posted in bug reports. I didn't know there was a bug reports subforum lol. I might repost this there and see if they do anything. (they won't)
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