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Players can be foes in PvE areas?

DreamyLu
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Hello

I have a question.

I'm used to do a lazy farming round (chests, plants, trees...) in Eastmarch on a daily basis, fully safe apart from 1 bear and 2 skeevers that can't be avoided. Ideal path to chill for lazy players like me. Only today it was different: right before, I was there and a group of 5 players suddenly ran to me, red names (like enemies) and attacked me. I let them kill me (had zero interest in fighting) and once I was dead, I could see them run away further. I just revived and kept going my usual round. I didn't see them again.

Therefore my question: can other players turn into enemies in PvE areas like Eastmarch? Or were those NPCs of a type I don't know yet (I'm newbie)?

Note that it wasn't a group of NPCs like those spawning with the blue/white symbols marking on the floor. I know those. It wasn't that.
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  • lazywhiteseal
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    i mean what were their names'....

    npcs dont have dope name like noobmaster69... maybe you aggroed a group of humanoid npcs

    only instances i see players getting killed by a player is by duel
  • DreamyLu
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    It happened quite fast so I'm not too sure, but I think I read at least for one something like "Nightblade blablabla"
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  • Grega
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    DreamyLu wrote: »
    Hello

    I have a question.

    I'm used to do a lazy farming round (chests, plants, trees...) in Eastmarch on a daily basis, fully safe apart from 1 bear and 2 skeevers that can't be avoided. Ideal path to chill for lazy players like me. Only today it was different: right before, I was there and a group of 5 players suddenly ran to me, red names (like enemies) and attacked me. I let them kill me (had zero interest in fighting) and once I was dead, I could see them run away further. I just revived and kept going my usual round. I didn't see them again.

    Therefore my question: can other players turn into enemies in PvE areas like Eastmarch? Or were those NPCs of a type I don't know yet (I'm newbie)?

    Note that it wasn't a group of NPCs like those spawning with the blue/white symbols marking on the floor. I know those. It wasn't that.

    There’s random event “ambush” that occurs in most base game zones. It was probably that. It’s usually 6 enemies that will follow you for a distance from the “event” spawn point.
  • DreamyLu
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    Even if the spawning location was not on my way? Because they arrived from a side opposite from where I was myself coming from.
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  • DreamyLu
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    For more precision: when looking at Eastmarch map, I was coming from Wittestadr Wayshrine, was left of Ratmaster's Prowl location and they arrived from lake side north of that.
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  • robpr
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    DreamyLu wrote: »
    Even if the spawning location was not on my way? Because they arrived from a side opposite from where I was myself coming from.

    They spawn in 5 variations on chests spawn points, and yes, they are quite relentless in chasing.
    The variations are:
    -tied up npc in middle of nowhere. When coming up close, 3 dudes jump out of smoke and attack you
    -a bandit trying to open the chest. If you are slow to kill him, he calls for buddies that jump out of smoke
    -2 npcs saying about good fight, they turn into werewolves and attack you
    -3 Deathseeker npcs standing over vampire or ww corpse, they attack on sight
    -an unconscious npc in middle of nowhere, when getting close a vampire will appear that summon buddies when killed
  • lazywhiteseal
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    how fast did they kill? you group of 5 players can obliterate a newbie in blink of an eye. if they had low dps then its probably npcs.

    how were they moving? pvp players move alot unlike npcs who move in a very computer like way.

    were they in mounts? players have habit of mounting up when traveling places to places. after killing you did they mount up? npcs dont travel in mounts. did they come at you with mounts?

    did they go in the opposite direction of where they came from? did they sheathe thrir weapons after killing you? if they did in both of this it means they were npcs since most npcs do that after killing all their threats.
  • MorganaBlue
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    THey were NPCs. The ONLY way another player can kill you anywhere outside of Cyrodiil or Imperial City is by dueling you, and you can choose to accept or refuse the duel.

    You will NEVER be killed by another player outside of Cyro or IC unless you accept a duel.
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    [Edited to remove Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 19, 2021 12:04PM
  • zaria
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    THey were NPCs. The ONLY way another player can kill you anywhere outside of Cyrodiil or Imperial City is by dueling you, and you can choose to accept or refuse the duel.

    You will NEVER be killed by another player outside of Cyro or IC unless you accept a duel.
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    Lol remember back just after returning, I was stealing in Orcinium, some dropped an DK standard on me, turned around and saw an huge orc, scared me a lot so excellent trolling.

    Once I accepted an duel by accident, think the one invited also did by accident as i put mages liquid lightning on him and he never moved out of it.
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 19, 2021 12:05PM
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  • Danikat
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    THey were NPCs. The ONLY way another player can kill you anywhere outside of Cyrodiil or Imperial City is by dueling you, and you can choose to accept or refuse the duel.

    You will NEVER be killed by another player outside of Cyro or IC unless you accept a duel.
    [snip]

    This is the correct answer.

    It doesn't matter what their names were, what they looked like, how they moved etc. because it's impossible for players to attack you in PvE maps unless you accept a duel and then only 1 person at a time can attack you.

    As it's impossible for them to be players they must have been NPCs. A lot of enemies in this game will look like players because they can be the same races, wear the same equipment, and you have to go out of your way to avoid blending in with the NPCs (using a mix of motifs and brighter dyes from harder achievements and/or skins, pets etc. and a lot of players deliberately try to avoid that and blend in with the NCPs).

    Incidentally there's an option you can turn on (I think it's under combat or interface) which puts a glow around characters, colour-coded by their reaction to you (enemies, allies, neutral) which can help distinguish players and NPCs, especially ones who will attack you. If you're on PC you can also get an addon like Azurah which gives you other options, like colouring their health bar or name by their reaction. I prefer that because I find it less...intrusive than the glow, I'd rather colour code something which is already there than add another bit of UI, but it means everyone has an option even if you can't or don't want to use addons.
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 19, 2021 12:11PM
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  • DreamyLu
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Incidentally there's an option you can turn on (I think it's under combat or interface) which puts a glow around characters, colour-coded by their reaction to you (enemies, allies, neutral) which can help distinguish players and NPCs, especially ones who will attack you. If you're on PC you can also get an addon like Azurah which gives you other options, like colouring their health bar or name by their reaction. I prefer that because I find it less...intrusive than the glow, I'd rather colour code something which is already there than add another bit of UI, but it means everyone has an option even if you can't or don't want to use addons.

    Yes, I have that option turned on but up to now, have set the minimum necessary as in green for allies, red for enemies and yelllow for pacific that can turn enemies upon attacking. Will check if I can tune it more than just that. Thank you.

    In the meantime I did recall name of one: "vampire darkblade" or similar (nightblade maybe?). So they were NPCs. Good to know. I was surprised because since weeks I do that route almost every day and never saw any foes else than animals.

    Well, no worries at all. I lost a few seconds at it only (the time to revive). Thanks All for the input. :)
    Edited by DreamyLu on April 16, 2021 12:22PM
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  • colossalvoids
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    Also if you're a vampire or a werewolf there is a new type of ambush that can happen since Greymoor I believe so can be that.
  • ZOS_ConnorG
    Greetings all,

    After review we have had to edit or remove several posts for rule violations, mostly Baiting. Ensure when engaging in a discussion that you keep said discussion civil, constructive, and within the rules. If you see a post that is baiting in nature do not engage it with further hostility and instead report it for the moderators to review.

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  • ZaroktheImmortal
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    No, other players cannot attack you in pve zones not without agreeing to a duel and that's one on one so this would have been npc enemies. NPC enemies will usually run to you if you get within distance of them and will follow you a certain distance away from their usual area.
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