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Blackwood Prologue question (Spoilers inside)
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
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WhereArtThouVampires✭✭✭✭I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
"Just seemed too easy and convenient" is a pretty good summary for 90% of the stories in ESO and the game itself tbh.14 -
TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.10 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
You definitely have a point here.2 -
SammyKhajit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This one had expected near death experience and only saved by Lyranth’s intervention (“Foolish little mortals” etc etc).4 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭SammyKhajit wrote: »This one had expected near death experience and only saved by Lyranth’s intervention (“Foolish little mortals” etc etc).
Apparently Mehrunes Dagon is quite the gentleman...
Oh, you bested my cultist?
Let me get the door for you.
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SammyKhajit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SammyKhajit wrote: »This one had expected near death experience and only saved by Lyranth’s intervention (“Foolish little mortals” etc etc).
Apparently Mehrunes Dagon is quite the gentleman...
Oh, you bested my cultist?
Let me get the door for you.
😁
Or at least, that Mehrunes Dagon will try to recruit this one and Eveli.
Also, wasn’t Eveli carrying the book? Wouldn’t he have sensed it?? (Overdue library book!!! You shall pay!!)
More plot holes to ponder.....
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Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭SammyKhajit wrote: »SammyKhajit wrote: »This one had expected near death experience and only saved by Lyranth’s intervention (“Foolish little mortals” etc etc).
Apparently Mehrunes Dagon is quite the gentleman...
Oh, you bested my cultist?
Let me get the door for you.
😁
Or at least, that Mehrunes Dagon will try to recruit this one and Eveli.
Also, wasn’t Eveli carrying the book? Wouldn’t he have sensed it?? (Overdue library book!!! You shall pay!!)
More plot holes to ponder.....
This whole recruitment angle would actually be quite interesting.
And yes, the (overdue library!!!) book... plot holes aplenty - unless Eveli left it with her brother.
Who knows? I guess we are left to speculate until June 1st.1 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
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Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.1 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
Yes he does.After destoying Molag Bal you spawn on Meridias plain. And there a white ghostly copy of you waits. You interact with it and you are reunited with your self.2 -
RedMuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.3 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.
I have played the main quest, but it was a few years ago... I can't remember now.
I remember Meridia helping us but apparently she has ulterior motives.0 -
Grandchamp1989✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
Yeah, that part was very out of place. He's the prince of DESTRUCTION. And he's like "yeah.. you're trying to ruin my plans.. let me give you a free ride out of here" So weird.3 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
Yeah, that part was very out of place. He's the prince of DESTRUCTION. And he's like "yeah.. you're trying to ruin my plans.. let me give you a free ride out of here" So weird.
Wait for the story. They all have something to hide. I guess he too.
Maybe Varen comes back... he had sort of good deeds after reading the books of the proloque.
And we are know to give a bleep about big gods and that we strike backEdited by mague on April 5, 2021 11:08AM2 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Trying to discern the machinations of a Daedric Prince? Silly mortals!PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo3 -
RedMuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.
I have played the main quest, but it was a few years ago... I can't remember now.
I remember Meridia helping us but apparently she has ulterior motives.
More like you happen to be helpful to Meridia in achieving her long term plan against Molag Bal. Don't think she's helping you, she's using the fact that you're there and going against Molag Bal to the max.
And she's a Daedric Prince, of course she has ulterior motives. None of them can be trusted, that includes Meridia and Azura no matter how "benign" they may seem they're not good and the do not care about mortals. They're just less overtly destructive and oppressive than the rest but they're just as amoral.2 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah did feel to easy.,.....but get the feeling was a reason for that. Well hope there is down the road, but just keep getting the feeling one thing Bal said about being his champ one day will come true soon or we will have ot pick one down the road.,Edited by RedTalon on April 5, 2021 11:15AM0 -
Túrin_Vidsmidr✭✭✭The roleplay value has gone through the rockbottom again.
I don't see why a devote templar of Stendarr (for example) would even consider jumping at the whistle of some dremora,
let alone team up with her and help her in a shady plan of which she doesn't even want to explain details.
[snip] write a new counter faction / different path and companion so we could actually have something that resembles a choice?
And this for 40 €, a price that can get you awesome roleplaying games with complex quest writing, instead of this linear bog. The Deadlands looked awesome (with Neat Perfection Reshade), got my dose of nostalgia.
[edited for bashing]Edited by ZOS_Lunar on April 7, 2021 2:24PMThe best techniques are passed on by the survivors.3 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.
I have played the main quest, but it was a few years ago... I can't remember now.
I remember Meridia helping us but apparently she has ulterior motives.
More like you happen to be helpful to Meridia in achieving her long term plan against Molag Bal. Don't think she's helping you, she's using the fact that you're there and going against Molag Bal to the max.
And she's a Daedric Prince, of course she has ulterior motives. None of them can be trusted, that includes Meridia and Azura no matter how "benign" they may seem they're not good and the do not care about mortals. They're just less overtly destructive and oppressive than the rest but they're just as amoral.
But I can't get past the fact that Azura used to be Wonder Woman and for that reason I will do whatever she asks.
As for Meridia... I could quite easily turn her lights off.1 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Trying to discern the machinations of a Daedric Prince? Silly mortals!
Haha thanks Lyranth...
I've been trying to search for the voice actor of Lyranth.
If I'm not mistaken, she also voices Meridia and Kireth.
She does a terrific job.0 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
Yeah, that part was very out of place. He's the prince of DESTRUCTION. And he's like "yeah.. you're trying to ruin my plans.. let me give you a free ride out of here" So weird.
"Mortal, what makes you think you could ever begin to understand my plans?"2 -
RedMuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.
I have played the main quest, but it was a few years ago... I can't remember now.
I remember Meridia helping us but apparently she has ulterior motives.
More like you happen to be helpful to Meridia in achieving her long term plan against Molag Bal. Don't think she's helping you, she's using the fact that you're there and going against Molag Bal to the max.
And she's a Daedric Prince, of course she has ulterior motives. None of them can be trusted, that includes Meridia and Azura no matter how "benign" they may seem they're not good and the do not care about mortals. They're just less overtly destructive and oppressive than the rest but they're just as amoral.
But I can't get past the fact that Azura used to be Wonder Woman and for that reason I will do whatever she asks.
As for Meridia... I could quite easily turn her lights off.
I mean I like Azura, she made the Khajiit and she hates the Tribunal. That doesn't mean I trust her though or think that she in general have mine, or any other (semi) mortal's best wishes at heart.1 -
Grandchamp1989✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I've just finished the Blackwood prologue, and enjoyed it for the most part.
However, at the end, we're expected to believe that Mehrunes Dagon just opens up a portal for you to go back to Tamriel? Just step right through, he says.
Wouldn't it have been easier/more believable if we had to run back to the portal we entered through, trying to escape all manner of things? I mean, this is end of the world stuff, isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Not trying to gripe, I love ESO and can't wait for Blackwood, but this just seemed too easy and convenient.
Yeah, that part was very out of place. He's the prince of DESTRUCTION. And he's like "yeah.. you're trying to ruin my plans.. let me give you a free ride out of here" So weird.
"Mortal, what makes you think you could ever begin to understand my plans?"
That's what they all said.
At this point we've stopped Molag Bal, Nocturnal, Clavicus & Mephala's major plot to take over Tamriel.
Surely if Mehrunes isn't a complete moron he knows this.
And he's like "Sure, he's a free portal - go ruin my plans aswell"
In the end we all know how it ends.. We're gonna stop him.0 -
Bradyfjord✭✭✭✭✭I took the end of the quest a guarantee that Mehrunes Dagon has plans for the Vestige.0 -
Hoolielulu✭✭✭✭✭To me it felt like a "get the hell out of my house" moment and I laughed and laughed.0 -
phantasmalD✭✭✭✭✭The quest acknowledges this. If you talk to Eveli before leaving she is very baffled by this turn of events.
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Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭phantasmalD wrote: »The quest acknowledges this. If you talk to Eveli before leaving she is very baffled by this turn of events.
Oh really? I should’ve spoken to her before leaving then... but it was not a requirement so I was just trying to get the hell out.
Thanks for the info.0 -
Sju✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »A better situation would be you using your powers of teleportation to teleport yourself out of there but it seems ZOS forgot we are the Vestige given how they have us get called mortal every 10 seconds even though the Vestige can revive whenever they are killed which would mean they are immortal.
I am no longer the Vestige. I got my soul back in Meridias domain. Actually i should not be able to use Teleport towers ever again
Actually, I've played for so long and so many quests... does the vestige get their soul back?
I can't remember.
If you play through the main quest, Coldharbor main quest and then do the last one of the old main quests then yes. It all ends with you injuring Molag Bal badly enough that most of the souls he absorbed to do the planemeld escapes, yours among them. Meridia is then so "kind" to stuff it back into your body so technically I guess you're half-mortal after that? And when I say kind I mean the chick definitely have ulterior motives and I'm just waiting for the pther shoe to drop.
I have played the main quest, but it was a few years ago... I can't remember now.
I remember Meridia helping us but apparently she has ulterior motives.
More like you happen to be helpful to Meridia in achieving her long term plan against Molag Bal. Don't think she's helping you, she's using the fact that you're there and going against Molag Bal to the max.
And she's a Daedric Prince, of course she has ulterior motives. None of them can be trusted, that includes Meridia and Azura no matter how "benign" they may seem they're not good and the do not care about mortals. They're just less overtly destructive and oppressive than the rest but they're just as amoral.
But I can't get past the fact that Azura used to be Wonder Woman and for that reason I will do whatever she asks.
As for Meridia... I could quite easily turn her lights off.
Hold up, I knew there were big voice actors in the game, but how, after all these years, did I miss this one?
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online/
She's been in every Elderscrolls game since at least original single player Morrowind. She was married to Robert Altman, one of the owners of Zenimax. Wonder if she inherited his share of the company after his death? Anyway she also had songs on the Fallout 4 soundtrack, so definitely a multitalented performer.
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