Newbie thoughts on Vampirism so far

Vanya

I decided to spent my Monthly ESO bonus crowns on Vampire skill line, though I wanted to do it in more old fashioned way I could contract disease nor anyone was willing to offer a bite.
Long story short. I am most impressed so far by Aesthetic details I must say I have not expected to be pleasantly surprised on how is executed.

- of each Vampiric stages - 1-4
- The fact one remains Vampire permanently , its not a temp transformation as Werewolf and limited by duration and constant feeding to stay in that form
- The skill line seems more complex and refined
- Blood scion looks incredibly cool at least from what I saw from images and videos
- I love how detailed devs were visually Argonians,Khajit and rest of Elven or humanoid races have different eyes and unnatural skin changes.

Ranged feeding animation is so cool I have not expected. I thought one must find sleeping target.

Loving the Blood frenzy+Charge overkill combo it does insane damage,suicidal yea, but as expected. but with shield and some element surprise it makes really short work of some enemies.

Vampire Noble or Dark Passions Regallia Costume is so iconic, espeically Dark Passions with Vampire stage 4 I knew it i wont regret buying it.

Really suits well certain races especially High elves since they are elegant and tall, it makes it even more dominant and leaves an impression.

First impression is great and I wont mind later if I do not feel so powerful as one, I do not play for power, but its has more meaning for me.

Also playing with -100% health recovery makes me more aware and careful when playing solo.






















To add for end its defo worthy of 1500 to try playing as Vampire,this is only a start, i will get so much more fun later on I know it.


Proud to be a Vampire. I must progress more , just wanted to share my impressions and recommend ,as always ZoS delivers , well done.

Vevvev

Buying it for 1,500 crowns is just a total and complete rip off. I'm sorry OP but if you had asked on these forums for a bite I would have been one of the people that might have jumped at the opportunity. Also whatever you do don't pay for the cure since it is like 600 something gold from a Priest of Arkay. That being said you'll enjoy the vampire skill line until you get into group content, but there are some tips I have for it.

If you want to use the spammable in group content go with Arterial Burst since Blood for Blood cancels all outside healing for 5 seconds after use. Even though Blood for Blood does more damage thanks to it's scaling Arterial Burst allows you to still be healed. Also be very careful with leaving Blood Frenzy on and if you do bring it try slotting it on the front bar so you'll have an easier time turning it on and off. Vampiric Drain is close to worthless in this game now as it's damage is pathetic and healing is close to nothing unless you're a tank with almost no HP left. Also if you have a habit of drawing lots of aggro the Mesmerize stun is actually pretty good in PVE, but hard to use in PVP.

Also if you wish to use the Blood Frenzy + Blood for Blood combo I'd look into getting the Pale Order Ring if you don't have constant self heals like Sorcs do with Critical Surge. This combo is really powerful in solo PVE and that ring will allow you to actually sustain both abilities side by side.
https://eso-sets.com/set/ring-of-the-pale-order

Last thing I'll add is that the ultimate has only one really good morph and it is Swarming Scion. Perfect Scion is lacking in many ways as compared to Swarming it has no extra damage, doesn't cost a whole lot less, and it's grand buff is just making you on equal footing with a mortal by removing your stage debuffs. Only use I see for it is if you plan to stay stage 1 forever and want the passives temporarily, or if you have a serious issue with fire damage and want a way to remove the debuff. If you don't fall into either one (or just want Perfect Scion for Bastian Sanguinarous RP) the bat swarm of Swarming Scion is what you want since it's damage heals you, it hurts everything around you in a large radius, and it looks amazing! (Even if the Scion model itself is ugly as heck)

Kosef

I feel bad you paid that much for a bite. I'd have done it for free. Are you in a guild? That's the first place to ask for a bite.

BTW..I love the vampire look...and wish there was a Vampire skin that gave me stage 4 appearance. Currently in order to get the appearance I want I have to suffer the negatives...especially on my stam dk.

Vanya

Thanks all, but 1500 Crowns is not considered a rip off from me if I get it monthly for Free because of ESO bonus subscription. I will reply for rest soon, but not today. I looked for a bite before, honestly not a single response, I even offered in exchange Werewolf bite on my other character too,even so I regret nothing as I wrote above I am impressed so much, loving Vampire a lot, the aesthetics,animations,skills,the way was executed so well.

JMadFour

Vampire Aesthetics are overall great. The look and feel of Vampires, to me is very cool. Most of the abilities look great. Arterial Burst is barely noticeable, Drain is blinding. But the rest of the skills/morphs in the line look fantastic. Feeding animations are cool AF, and all of the passives are pretty great imo.

I was upset with the way they nerfed Blood For Blood, and I rage-cured after making a whole thread railing against the concept of almost never being healable in dungeons. I still hate it.

Found that I just didn’t really enjoy my characters when they were not Vampires. I tried Mortal. Tried Werewolf. Came back to Vampire.

Something about it, just sticks with me, despite ZOS’s heavy handed-ness.

Right now, it’s not ideal but I can work with it. My biggest wish is for them to make Arterial Burst ranged and give it a better spell effect(AB’s animation is barely noticeable). And Drain simply needs to do more damage. Flat out.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

The Vampire Skill Line, among many other things should not be for sale at the Crown Store. The game was better before the Crown Store showed up, and ruined so many things.

Ryuvain

Yeah, vampire is still a lot of fun if you ignore the meta people here. I'm still a vamp because werewolf feels so temporary and isn't as fun. Most the time you can actually forget that you're a werewolf.

If it's fun, play it.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Ryuvain wrote: »

Yeah, vampire is still a lot of fun if you ignore the meta people here. I'm still a vamp because werewolf feels so temporary and isn't as fun. Most the time you can actually forget that you're a werewolf.

If it's fun, play it.

Yes they are fun. You know its even more fun if you actually have to get bitten and go through the rather good Vampire Intro, which I imagine is long gone.

Making things like this purchasable does hurt the game and its play.

nukk3r

Ryuvain wrote: »

Yeah, vampire is still a lot of fun if you ignore the meta people here. I'm still a vamp because werewolf feels so temporary and isn't as fun. Most the time you can actually forget that you're a werewolf.

If it's fun, play it.

Vamp now is a shadow of what it's been prior to rework. Remember when Drain stunned on hit? It was the most reliable source of CC for mag classes that lack it in PvP. Now people use the sub-class for NB ganker mobility or Mist Form cheese for tower trolls, the rest of the skills are sub-par even for the most casual play style.

JMadFour

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Ryuvain wrote: »

Yeah, vampire is still a lot of fun if you ignore the meta people here. I'm still a vamp because werewolf feels so temporary and isn't as fun. Most the time you can actually forget that you're a werewolf.

If it's fun, play it.

Yes they are fun. You know its even more fun if you actually have to get bitten and go through the rather good Vampire Intro, which I imagine is long gone.

Making things like this purchasable does hurt the game and its play.

I agree with your sentiment(Vampirism should not be sold in the Crown Store), but I have to note here that You can still get bitten and go through the Vampire Intro Quest, which is not only not “long gone” but was updated in Greymoor with the Vampire overhaul.

waterfairy

Ryuvain wrote: »

Yeah, vampire is still a lot of fun if you ignore the meta people here. I'm still a vamp because werewolf feels so temporary and isn't as fun. Most the time you can actually forget that you're a werewolf.

If it's fun, play it.

non vamp skill cost increase isn't fun unless you're using only vamp skills or just like to frolic in the overland with your pale skin

WoppaBoem

This guy made an awesome inspiring post on how it is to be a new player.

The OP post is epic, keep it up @Vanya

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JMadFour

Vigarr wrote: »

non vamp skill cost increase isn't fun unless you're using only vamp skills or just like to frolic in the overland with your pale skin

Depends on the race and class, TBH. Some classes it really hurts, others it does not.

For example, On NB (or Imperial/Breton)the cost increase doesn’t hit nearly as hard as it does on other race/classes.

waterfairy

JMadFour wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

non vamp skill cost increase isn't fun unless you're using only vamp skills or just like to frolic in the overland with your pale skin

Depends on the race and class, TBH. Some classes it really hurts, others it does not.

For example, On NB (or Imperial/Breton)the cost increase doesn’t hit nearly as hard as it does on other race/classes.

true but it still sucks that they added the skill cost increase/decrease even if you build around it

I was a vamp for years for the magic regen and appearance, gladly taking the fire damage as a trade off but now I only have 1 vamp left and it's an alt for nostalgia purposes

JMadFour

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

Vevvev

JMadFour wrote: »

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

It's the same skin. The only differences are how the textures wrap about the model and eyes, which is why elf eyes become human eyes.

JMadFour

Vevvev wrote: »

JMadFour wrote: »

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

It's the same skin. The only differences are how the textures wrap about the model and eyes, which is why elf eyes become human eyes.

Interesting. Still though, Khajiit Vampires look great.

Humans, not so much.

Vevvev

JMadFour wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

JMadFour wrote: »

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

It's the same skin. The only differences are how the textures wrap about the model and eyes, which is why elf eyes become human eyes.

Interesting. Still though, Khajiit Vampires look great.

Humans, not so much.

Yeah, and the one infuriating thing about the vampire skin (despite the fact it's a skin) is how the eyes are actually painted offset from normal mortal eyes. In fact at stage 1 if you zoom in a lot you'll see it where your original eye color seems to bleed in just a bit around the edges. Also in the higher stages your character's eyes will be looking a little down due to the offset.

Yes, I nitpick the super little details like that... And the skin is just a transparent white filter over the entire body which is why Khajiit and Argonians bleach white, and why tattoos and other cosmetics layered under skins become faded.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

JMadFour wrote: »

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

Looks awful and doesn't make any sense logically. Why would their fur and scales turn white?!

Mer also get human styled eyes, instead of mer.

waterfairy

Vevvev wrote: »

JMadFour wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

JMadFour wrote: »

Khajiit and Argonian Vampires look fantastic.

The progression from Stage 1 Khajiit with dull grey fur and crazy bloodshot eyes to Stage 4 with bright white fur and sharp, focused eyes is great.

Human vampires on the other hand.....

It's the same skin. The only differences are how the textures wrap about the model and eyes, which is why elf eyes become human eyes.

Interesting. Still though, Khajiit Vampires look great.

Humans, not so much.

Yeah, and the one infuriating thing about the vampire skin (despite the fact it's a skin) is how the eyes are actually painted offset from normal mortal eyes. In fact at stage 1 if you zoom in a lot you'll see it where your original eye color seems to bleed in just a bit around the edges. Also in the higher stages your character's eyes will be looking a little down due to the offset.

Yes, I nitpick the super little details like that... And the skin is just a transparent white filter over the entire body which is why Khajiit and Argonians bleach white, and why tattoos and other cosmetics layered under skins become faded.

honestly it should just be a separate skin sold in the crown store at this point and leave vamps looking normal

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omnidoh

Been a Breton vampire since Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, and in every game thereafter including ESO.
Will probably remain one until the game is finally retired in the near future as MMO's die out and become micro-transactional candy-crush.

All in all, the writers did a half-decent job with the rework, but I much preferred the original ESO vampires, and the canonical Elder Scrolls Vampires prior to the Lamae Bal Retcon.

Personally, I think they should have created multiple strains of Vampire in accordance with Immortal Blood (which is an available lore book in ESO, but shouldn't be since the story told there doesn't occur in Tamriel until some time in the distant future), or perhaps make the questline process directly tied to Molag Bal himself in some twisted way.

lihentian

the increase cost for all none vampire skill.. will utterly destroy you. remember racial passive give only 6% and a five piece set can give you max of 7%.

enjoy it while it last

JMadFour

lihentian wrote: »

the increase cost for all none vampire skill.. will utterly destroy you. remember racial passive give only 6% and a five piece set can give you max of 7%.

enjoy it while it last

As a NB it’s not really that terrible tbh.

JMadFour

I gotta say, let the OP live man. If the man is having fun being a Vampire, who are we to rain on his parade.

deleted210809-001958

imo the only reason to buy that bite from crown store is to avoid that new humiliating "kneel animation". and that [snip] costume is no better than mages robe from starter kit since every second character wears it (no matter vampire or mortal). zos would better put it into crown crates or daily rewards (along with "vampire noble" costume).

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deleted210809-001958

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Kyatos wrote: »

and that "vampire prostitute".

You mean Vampire Lady of questionable unlife-choices?

no, I mean it's too revealing and name/description of the costume only proves my point. also reminds me morningstar gang style from sr3 (that was specialized on "adult entertainments")

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Kyatos wrote: »

imo the only reason to buy that bite from crown store is to avoid that new humiliating "kneel animation". and that [snip] costume is no better than mages robe from starter kit since every second character wears it (no matter vampire or mortal). zos would better put it into crown crates or daily rewards (along with "vampire noble" costume).

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My Vampire Witch always wears her Wedding Dress for that ceremony.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

JMadFour wrote: »

I gotta say, let the OP live man. If the man is having fun being a Vampire, who are we to rain on his parade.

Of course. He is in no way to blame for ZOS's bad choices.

Canned_Apples

I hate the new vampire skill line.
The penalties are way too extreme for a skill like that doesn’t have a reliable heal and has been turned into an rp/over world (where you can light attack stuff to death) line.
I miss the old bat swarm and wish they would give us the option between bat swarm and the gross scion. That was a fun defensive ultimate that didn’t turn your character into a cheap re skin of bone Goliath.

It lacks everything that the WW skill line has.

Vanya

Vampiric skill line is incredibly underrated.

I am now on Stage nine nearly of Vampire skill line.

Cannot wait for Mist, The Unnatural movement is possibly of the most useful ever to run completely undetected oh and Blood Scion is so badass. Mesmerise stun and rest of passives.

I will take Vampire over Werewolf anytime!