ESO+ without the real sub

HumbleThaumaturge

I would like that.

I would very much like to be able to buy ESO plus for fixed duration instead of a recurring payment. But, of course, recurring payments is a popular means of monetizing a game.

One point that has not been made: I once tried to buy 3 months of ESO plus with a Visa gift card, but the system would not accept it, even though I had used the same Visa gift card to buy the account (i.e., the gift card worked, and it worked on ESO, but was not acceptable for ESO plus purchase). I assumed the charge did not go through because the gift card was not authorized for recurring payments, and ESO plus is ONLY available with recurring payments. If ESO would allow a fixed-time-period, one-time-only payment, I would buy ESO plus from time to time with a gift card. Since that is not possible, I play without ESO plus.

Lysette

Using the pre-paid options you can actually do that - like paysafe card or what else is offered in your country. That is a non-reoccurring method where you can add any amount of days, when you have spare gaming money - I once had a bit over a year paid in advance using these payment methods.

DirkRavenclaw

They already have that Option. I pay with paysafe card. I buy the Card with x amount add Gametime, its a one Time payment. I see straight away when my Gametime expires and can just add at a convinient Time another Month or 3, it will just run on

Hallothiel

Definitely no.

Starlock wrote: »

Iarao wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

sub for a year. problem solved.

not everyone can afford to lay out that much cash at once. that is why zos offers several sub plans. sigh.

Not that it's my place to be offering financial advice... but if one's financial health isn't good enough to plop down an entire year sub at once, it isn't good enough to be subscribing month to month to something like ESO+ either (especially when the year sub is cheaper). A sub isn't necessary and it isn't a good deal - especially stacked against essential needs. Pay the rent. Buy the food. A game sub doesn't put clothes on your back.

I disagree. Not everyone would be able to pay out a lump sum, but that that doesn’t mean they have bad financial health.

Splitting the cost makes it more affordable - like you do with other payments! Monthly subscriptions give you more control & you can stop them anytime. I pay monthly & its worked into my budget.

And I find a sub incredibly necessary and good value. I don’t have to buy dlcs & get decent amount of crowns. Plus the utter joy of the craft bag! All for less cost than a couple of drinks down the pub or even a cinema ticket.

LeglessUK

I don't care.

You say you're a big spender, yet you quibble over a monthly subscription that hardly breaks the bank, I don't get it?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

you can buy 60 and 90 day subs already. You just have to choose that option when you setup your sub.

Then just cancel and you still have the days you paid for but it wont auto refresh.

Elsonso

I don't care.

kojou wrote: »

You used to be able to buy prepaid subscription days at gamestop's site, but last time I tried it it didn't work. Which makes me think they don't want to support that model any more (I used to do that instead of buying crowns directly).

Why would they let you buy more ESO+ time and get crowns when they can get you to subscribe and just buy crowns when you run out?

I used to use those 60-day cards, back when they worked. As I recall, the last two cards I used required customer service to get working. I don't think many others used them, or they would still be around.

robertthebard

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

I used to have the same issue. Then I learned to reschedule my ESO + by letting it lapse until early in the next month. Sure, I missed out on a few days, but with better scheduling, I can let it run more often, thus gaining in the long run.

robertthebard

Starlock wrote: »

Iarao wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

sub for a year. problem solved.

not everyone can afford to lay out that much cash at once. that is why zos offers several sub plans. sigh.

Not that it's my place to be offering financial advice... but if one's financial health isn't good enough to plop down an entire year sub at once, it isn't good enough to be subscribing month to month to something like ESO+ either (especially when the year sub is cheaper). A sub isn't necessary and it isn't a good deal - especially stacked against essential needs. Pay the rent. Buy the food. A game sub doesn't put clothes on your back.

Nope. I'm on a fixed income, and I don't have enough cash on hand to pay a year at a time, but I can go w/out 15 dollars a month. You see, taken annually, it is cheaper. But looking at the here and now, it's not. Now sure, I could skip my rent for a month to pay a year, or maybe my electric bill, although that would mean that I wouldn't be able to play anyway, since I wouldn't have a place to set up my PC, or the power to run it.

ebix_

I don't care.

the only good thing about eso+ that worths is the craft bag , if they give it for free I would never buy eso+ again! its just impossible to manage so many crafting materials without craft bag [snip]

[edited for bashing]

Tandor

Definitely no.

ebix_ wrote: »

the only good thing about eso+ that worths is the craft bag , if they give it for free I would never buy eso+ again! its just impossible to manage so many crafting materials without craft bag [snip]

The crowns are actually worth it, literally, unless you never buy any. Someone who doesn't buy crowns or a sub (and I'm not suggesting that's the case with you) [snip] I don't get the argument that is sometimes put forward that "I bought the game and should be able to play it free thereafter into eternity notwithstanding the cost of running the servers, maintenance, and ongoing development".

Assuming you do buy stuff in the crown store from time to time then the sub pays for that, quite apart from any other benefits like the free crowns and DLCs etc.

[edited for baiting]

Haygood

Do something like WOW and allow players to buy ESO+ with gold.

spartaxoxo

I don't care.

Starlock wrote: »

Iarao wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

sub for a year. problem solved.

not everyone can afford to lay out that much cash at once. that is why zos offers several sub plans. sigh.

Not that it's my place to be offering financial advice... but if one's financial health isn't good enough to plop down an entire year sub at once, it isn't good enough to be subscribing month to month to something like ESO+ either (especially when the year sub is cheaper). A sub isn't necessary and it isn't a good deal - especially stacked against essential needs. Pay the rent. Buy the food. A game sub doesn't put clothes on your back.

Setting up a small amount of expendable income per month is a necessary part for human mental health. Some people's expendable income per month is smaller than others but well within the reach of a game sub, which is quite often one of the best per dollar uses of expendable income because it gives one of the largest amount of entertainment benefits per dollar.

It's really not your place to tell people what they can and cannot afford when you've neither been asked nor have seen their finances.

spartaxoxo

I don't care.

OP if you're on PC, I cannot help you with how to cancel your sub.

But if you're on ps4, you can to subscription management and turn off auto-renew.

If you turn off auto-renew right away, you'll never be hit with an unexpected charge because you forgot.

Feizao

a pay as you go service like cell phone minutes? Buy 30 days of eso+ Time doesnt tic unless logged in pause on disconnects

ThorianB

Starlock wrote: »

Iarao wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

sub for a year. problem solved.

not everyone can afford to lay out that much cash at once. that is why zos offers several sub plans. sigh.

Not that it's my place to be offering financial advice... but if one's financial health isn't good enough to plop down an entire year sub at once, it isn't good enough to be subscribing month to month to something like ESO+ either (especially when the year sub is cheaper). A sub isn't necessary and it isn't a good deal - especially stacked against essential needs. Pay the rent. Buy the food. A game sub doesn't put clothes on your back.

I have a 4 figure monthly spendable( after all bills are paid and food is on the table) income and i don't even buy subs a year at a time. I might not want to play ESO for a month or 6. Last year i went 4 months without playing ESO.

Also i was poor once. My internet and a sub to my favorite MMO was my entire monthly entertainment budget. I didn't have any type of cable TV and i didn't go out much because i worked 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. Internet and a sub to an MMO was the best bang for the buck for my entertainment. Everything else would have been more expensive.

Bradyfjord

I don't care.

What the OP is asking for reminds me of the XBox Live or Steam cards I've bought my son occasionally. I don't have anything against people buying 'days' instead of larger increments of time. But consider that as the increment gets smaller, the charge gets higher overall. If months are more expensive in the long run than a yearly sub, then buying a day or two is most likely going to be even more than that in the long run.

FlopsyPrince

ebix_ wrote: »

the only good thing about eso+ that worths is the craft bag , if they give it for free I would never buy eso+ again! its just impossible to manage so many crafting materials without craft bag [snip]

You have to have a reason for people to pay for a sub. Providing an extra feature is the only way to do that.

caperb

Then why you don't buy a non-recurring sub for like 30 or 90 days? Pay with a bank transfer or any other of the one-time payment options.

The thing you made a thread for is literally there.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Xargas13 wrote: »

Long story short, give us an option to manually add days to our sub. Even though I sub, it's not comfortable to have ESO+ with how it currently works, I'm a big spender and sometimes I have money and sometimes I don't, and when I have I would like to purchase days for my favorite game. Previously I played WoW and SWTOR, and they all have 30 or 60 days purchase without recurring payment. Said SWTOR have only 60 days though. Please add this, just for comfort, I don't think I ask much, thank you

If your on ps4 just go in the setting, you can deactivate recuring payment per game

Mayrael

I would like that.

More options is always better. Personally I don't care but if this could help someone else then why not?

Kalik_Gold

Just buy the DLCs for gold, and Chapter in the summer and the 21,000 crowns pack when on Sale in December.

I have everything except can’t dye costumes except on the free week (non issue), mini statues for housing (non issue) and crafting bag (issue, so I use a fake guild, storage boxes and empty it to the crafting bag in the free week), it lasts me until another free week comes around.

You only pay twice a year $50 in summer and $90 around Black Friday. You can leave and step away anytime as you own the DLCs.

Elsonso

I don't care.

Kalik_Gold wrote: »

You only pay twice a year $50 in summer and $90 around Black Friday. You can leave and step away anytime as you own the DLCs.

I assume the $50 is for the Chapter? The $90 is for Crowns? I guess that works. You save about $60/yr, assuming that you don't need to buy more Crowns in the fall than you get with ESO Plus.

Amottica

I like this suggestion as it is a win/win for both sides of the equation. It provides more choices for players additional means for revenue (at full price) that eliminates the middle man unlike a pre-paid card that someone mentioned earlier. All of this without any aspect that harms any of us on the player side.

Granted, I am new, been playing this game, a matter of weeks, so I do not know all the ESO nuances. However, I have been playing MMOs for years and have used both recurring subscriptions and one-time payments and the choice was welcomed.

Goregrinder

Starlock wrote: »

Iarao wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Xargas13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The problem isn't the subscription cost. You admit you are a big spender. Just spend on your subscription first.

I haven't mentioned the cost anywhere. Problem is, my sub refreshes late in the month, and by that time I might go over my limit and be left with money that are needed for essential needs. I prefer to do it like this, got my salary, bought days for the game, and forget about some payment for the rest of the month. You might say move the date, but my salary doesn't come on a fixed day, there is a range of dates it works with.

sub for a year. problem solved.

not everyone can afford to lay out that much cash at once. that is why zos offers several sub plans. sigh.

Not that it's my place to be offering financial advice... but if one's financial health isn't good enough to plop down an entire year sub at once, it isn't good enough to be subscribing month to month to something like ESO+ either (especially when the year sub is cheaper). A sub isn't necessary and it isn't a good deal - especially stacked against essential needs. Pay the rent. Buy the food. A game sub doesn't put clothes on your back.

Very very true. Too many people are living below their means because they want all these 1st world luxuries, but don't realize they should be picking and choosing exactly what luxuries they can actually afford. People will literally sub to Netflix, ESO, etc and go to the last $5 in their account thinking that it's normal because "don't worry, I get paid in a week, more money will come in!...". I find that it's usually younger people who live like this (as did I when I was young and dumb), but as you get older you begin to see the value in saving money. It's ok to have money in your account and just let it sit there, not spending it on anything.

But yeah I agree with you, people think because they have money means they can afford something. You can afford something when you can buy 10 of something and still have money with income to replenish that cost. Not "Well I ahve $20 bucks and the sub is only $15, so I can afford it".

Jeremy

Xargas13 wrote: »

Long story short, give us an option to manually add days to our sub. Even though I sub, it's not comfortable to have ESO+ with how it currently works, I'm a big spender and sometimes I have money and sometimes I don't, and when I have I would like to purchase days for my favorite game. Previously I played WoW and SWTOR, and they all have 30 or 60 days purchase without recurring payment. Said SWTOR have only 60 days though. Please add this, just for comfort, I don't think I ask much, thank you

I don't see how giving this option would help you.

Let's say you do buy 60 days instead of 30 days. You could still get stuck at the end of 60 days with no cash on hand after a spending binge. My advice: just squirrel away some emergency ESO cash.