Help me figure out max speed?

Daemons_Bane

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry
5% from Steed Mundus

Soulshine

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Nagastani

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry

Hi,

So there's there's a mini-map mod on Minion by Fyrakin that will show your actual speed. It's in the options and you have to turn this on. Also be careful as I think there's an old and new version.

However to quickly answer your question, as far as I know move speed is capped at 200% and everyone has 100% by default. Looks like you have 113% there so although you're over a little, it's a build design decision whether or not to cap at 200 or go over a little to help compensate for snares. Generally speaking for my part, in any build where I really care about move speed, generally I cap mine around 190%, leaving a 10% gap intentionally for other things to buff out and just being a little more careful.

Armethius

Nagastani wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry

Hi,

So there's there's a mini-map mod on Minion by Fyrakin that will show your actual speed. It's in the options and you have to turn this on. Also be careful as I think there's an old and new version.

However to quickly answer your question, as far as I know move speed is capped at 200% and everyone has 100% by default. Looks like you have 113% there so although you're over a little, it's a build design decision whether or not to cap at 200 or go over a little to help compensate for snares. Generally speaking for my part, in any build where I really care about move speed, generally I cap mine around 190%, leaving a 10% gap intentionally for other things to buff out and just being a little more careful.

Thanks very insightful

Nagastani

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry

While we're at it, allow me to also salute you for using Cowards Gear and Wild Hunt together in a build. I've often found that just being able to move even a little faster can dramatically improve your gaming experience in ways that buffing 'flat stats' never could. Especially considering how light and heavy armor now comes with actual penalties, its best just to not get hit at all if you can help it.

Perhaps when I get time again to mess with builds I will try this idea as well. Its pretty good idea though, makes rapids obsolete for the solo player and this is precisely what progress looks and feels like.

tsaescishoeshiner

Nagastani wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry

Hi,

So there's there's a mini-map mod on Minion by Fyrakin that will show your actual speed. It's in the options and you have to turn this on. Also be careful as I think there's an old and new version.

However to quickly answer your question, as far as I know move speed is capped at 200% and everyone has 100% by default. Looks like you have 113% there so although you're over a little, it's a build design decision whether or not to cap at 200 or go over a little to help compensate for snares. Generally speaking for my part, in any build where I really care about move speed, generally I cap mine around 190%, leaving a 10% gap intentionally for other things to buff out and just being a little more careful.

Correction: It's not +113% movement speed, it's +153% because sprint gives a 40% movement speed. So Coward's Gear is giving you nothing (out of combat).

So you have:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry
40% from sprinting**
=+153% while sprinting, +52% not sprinting

I recommend getting more movement speed while NOT sprinting, because sprint bonuses go over the cap pretty fast. With Adept Rider giving you constant Major Expedition, and Steed Stone giving +15% with purple gear, you'd have

45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from 1x Swift
30% from Adept Rider
15% from Steed Stone
=+97% without sprinting (out of combat)

What if you don't wanna use speed gear? Charging Maneuver (from the Assault skill line) gives Major and Minor Expedition, for +45% total. It lasts 8 seconds, so you only need ~1500 Stamina Recovery to sustain it. It doesn't slow you down to cast it cuz you're not sprinting, and is easier to sustain than sprinting. You'd have:

45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from 1x Swift
45% from Charging Maneuver
=+97% without sprinting (out of combat)

IMO, might as well do one of those and save the stamina.

Daemons_Bane

Seems I left out a detail I'm talking sprint speed, as I never really use my mount.. the character mentioned is used for farming nodes/treasure maps/chests and stuff like that.. but if sprinting is 140%, and the cap is 200%, it seems that I am way over.?

Ps: Those effects that just say movement speed, do they affect sprint too, or do I need to see them as a separate thing.?

tsaescishoeshiner

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Seems I left out a detail I'm talking sprint speed, as I never really use my mount.. the character mentioned is used for farming nodes/treasure maps/chests and stuff like that.. but if sprinting is 140%, and the cap is 200%, it seems that I am way over.?

Ps: Those effects that just say movement speed, do they affect sprint too, or do I need to see them as a separate thing.?

Yeah you are over, as sprint builds tend to be in my experience.

Effects that just say movement speed affect you in sprint and non-sprint. The max speed while sprinting is the same as the non-sprinting one.

Edit: I mentioned Charging Maneuver, Adept Rider, and Steed Stone because of their non-mounted speed bonuses. Nothing I said before was about mounts. Those all give you bonuses without being mounted. Anyway, have fun zooming around!

Daemons_Bane

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Seems I left out a detail I'm talking sprint speed, as I never really use my mount.. the character mentioned is used for farming nodes/treasure maps/chests and stuff like that.. but if sprinting is 140%, and the cap is 200%, it seems that I am way over.?

Ps: Those effects that just say movement speed, do they affect sprint too, or do I need to see them as a separate thing.?

Yeah you are over, as sprint builds tend to be in my experience.

Effects that just say movement speed affect you in sprint and non-sprint. The max speed while sprinting is the same as the non-sprinting one.

Edit: I mentioned Charging Maneuver, Adept Rider, and Steed Stone because of their non-mounted speed bonuses. Nothing I said before was about mounts. Those all give you bonuses without being mounted. Anyway, have fun zooming around!

I'll gladly admit that I just piled on bonuses to be sure but now, as a player without a big cp pool, I have to know if I can save some green cp on speed buffs

Athan1

Additionally you have the Steed Mundus, the 20% movement speed buff from the green CP, and major/minor expedition buffs.

Nagastani

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Nagastani wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So to be clear, this question is to find out if I am already at max sprint speed, or if I need to use CP to achieve it..

I got:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry

Hi,

So there's there's a mini-map mod on Minion by Fyrakin that will show your actual speed. It's in the options and you have to turn this on. Also be careful as I think there's an old and new version.

However to quickly answer your question, as far as I know move speed is capped at 200% and everyone has 100% by default. Looks like you have 113% there so although you're over a little, it's a build design decision whether or not to cap at 200 or go over a little to help compensate for snares. Generally speaking for my part, in any build where I really care about move speed, generally I cap mine around 190%, leaving a 10% gap intentionally for other things to buff out and just being a little more careful.

Correction: It's not +113% movement speed, it's +153% because sprint gives a 40% movement speed. So Coward's Gear is giving you nothing (out of combat).

So you have:

21% from Medium Armor
10% from Orc Racial
30% from Cowards Gear
45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from Swift Jewelry
40% from sprinting**
=+153% while sprinting, +52% not sprinting

I recommend getting more movement speed while NOT sprinting, because sprint bonuses go over the cap pretty fast. With Adept Rider giving you constant Major Expedition, and Steed Stone giving +15% with purple gear, you'd have

45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from 1x Swift
30% from Adept Rider
15% from Steed Stone
=+97% without sprinting (out of combat)

What if you don't wanna use speed gear? Charging Maneuver (from the Assault skill line) gives Major and Minor Expedition, for +45% total. It lasts 8 seconds, so you only need ~1500 Stamina Recovery to sustain it. It doesn't slow you down to cast it cuz you're not sprinting, and is easier to sustain than sprinting. You'd have:

45% from Ring of the Wild Hunt
7% from 1x Swift
45% from Charging Maneuver
=+97% without sprinting (out of combat)

IMO, might as well do one of those and save the stamina.

Ok, no problem. I've used Cowards Gear off and on before and found it reliable, even if it is just sprinting.

It does appear several things have changed from the information you posted, so maybe best to stay away from Coward's Gear and just focus on increasing move speed itself.

But if Coward's gear only works now during Combat that's another terrible change and waste of what was once at least a reliable set. Looks like I'll need to run another round of tests.

Daemons_Bane

Athan1 wrote: »

Additionally you have the Steed Mundus, the 20% movement speed buff from the green CP, and major/minor expedition buffs.

I don't think you caught the meaning I am trying to AVOID using green cp on speed