Daedric Summons

Morgha_Kul

So, I've commented on this before, but it's been a while since I did, and a while since I played my Sorceror... and I'd forgotten how ANNOYING the Winged Twilight is. So, I'm going to reiterate my suggestion: Let's change the morphs of the Daedric pets to give us more variety.

So, we have two current summons, and one ultimate summon. I suggest the following:

Summon Scamp (Summons the Unstable Scamp)
>Summon Clannfear (Summons the Clannfear)
>Summon Hunger (Summons a Hunger with a poison AOE attack)

Summon Winged Twilight (Summons the Twilight Matriarch)
>Summon Daedroth (Summons a melee Daedroth with a flame breath attack)
>Summon Dremora (Summons a Dremora. If you have a melee weapon equipped, the Dremora will be ranged. If you have a ranged weapon, he will be melee)

Summon Fire Atronach (Ulitmate) (Summons a Fire Atronach)
>Summon Frost Atronach (Ultimate) (Summons a Frost Atronach)
>Summon Storm Atronach (Ultimate) (Summons a Charged Storm Atronach)
Note that the Atronachs would be fully capable of movement, not static as they are now.

This will give us more variety and choice in our minions, and allows us to get rid of the annoying Twilight, if we choose to.

Starlight_Whisper

Necro has first atro

ealdwin

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Necro has first atro

Not quite. They have a flesh goliath (atronach) which does frost damage, which is not a proper frost atronach.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

I really wish we got some "Special" skins like the warden bear one for sorcerers' pets. Like various daedra and give the current ones an updated colour and texture skin.
I'd have a twilight look like a fire atronach in a heartbeat if I could.

Sangwyne

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, we have two current summons, and one ultimate summon. I suggest the following:
>Summon Daedroth (Summons a melee Daedroth with a flame breath attack)

Tanks everywhere:

I don't think we need a second Daedroth, unless it was like a little itty bitty one, the one from Maw is plenty obnoxious enough. Honestly, on my Sorcerer, I don't even use the Winged Twilight, takes up too much space on bar, has no AOE and the active is terrible, so it's basically two slots gone for some measly single target auto attacks, no thanks. Volatile Familiar on the other hand is quite nice, stays on your primary targets, with both AOE damage and a stun attached, and doesn't have the tendency to randomly aggro something on the other side of the map while I'm just passing through and put me into combat.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

I really wish the scamp had a better texture and one of their usual skin colours, like brown, instead of the weird pale purple.

SilverIce58

How bout instead of all that, just make the charged atronach into an air atronach with spinning blades that gets bigger like Hurricane does, and change the twilight tormentor (which is just another form of the winged twilight) into a Grievous Twilight, like the ones that walk around IC.

Lugaldu

It was much better in TES IV, where you could summon all kinds of Daedra that were existing. I would like to see that in ESO too.
And yes, the terrible pale purple color should be replaced as well by the natural colors.

Morgha_Kul

Lugaldu wrote: »

It was much better in TES IV, where you could summon all kinds of Daedra that were existing. I would like to see that in ESO too.
And yes, the terrible pale purple color should be replaced as well by the natural colors.

I agree, but I'd make the colour (and the attacks) match the weapon equipped. If you have a frost staff, he'd be bluish, tossing snowballs. Fire staff, he's brown, tossing fireballs. Lightning staff, he's purple and zaps things with shocks.

Sangwyne wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, we have two current summons, and one ultimate summon. I suggest the following:
>Summon Daedroth (Summons a melee Daedroth with a flame breath attack)

Tanks everywhere:
I don't think we need a second Daedroth, unless it was like a little itty bitty one, the one from Maw is plenty obnoxious enough. Honestly, on my Sorcerer, I don't even use the Winged Twilight, takes up too much space on bar, has no AOE and the active is terrible, so it's basically two slots gone for some measly single target auto attacks, no thanks. Volatile Familiar on the other hand is quite nice, stays on your primary targets, with both AOE damage and a stun attached, and doesn't have the tendency to randomly aggro something on the other side of the map while I'm just passing through and put me into combat.

What Daedroth are you talking about? I wasn't aware anyone had the power to summon a Daedroth...

Bradyfjord

ZOS could increase the daedra variety with skins, similar to the bear skin for wardens.

Sylvermynx

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

It was much better in TES IV, where you could summon all kinds of Daedra that were existing. I would like to see that in ESO too.
And yes, the terrible pale purple color should be replaced as well by the natural colors.

I agree, but I'd make the colour (and the attacks) match the weapon equipped. If you have a frost staff, he'd be bluish, tossing snowballs. Fire staff, he's brown, tossing fireballs. Lightning staff, he's purple and zaps things with shocks.

Sangwyne wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, we have two current summons, and one ultimate summon. I suggest the following:
>Summon Daedroth (Summons a melee Daedroth with a flame breath attack)

Tanks everywhere:
I don't think we need a second Daedroth, unless it was like a little itty bitty one, the one from Maw is plenty obnoxious enough. Honestly, on my Sorcerer, I don't even use the Winged Twilight, takes up too much space on bar, has no AOE and the active is terrible, so it's basically two slots gone for some measly single target auto attacks, no thanks. Volatile Familiar on the other hand is quite nice, stays on your primary targets, with both AOE damage and a stun attached, and doesn't have the tendency to randomly aggro something on the other side of the map while I'm just passing through and put me into combat.

What Daedroth are you talking about? I wasn't aware anyone had the power to summon a Daedroth...

Maw of the Infernal procs a Daedroth - lots of tanks aren't happy about it because it's HUGE, and it's right in their faces...

Coatmagic

All we really need is a Pet Shrink ability so all these bears and flappy things can be a lil less annoying.

Mojmir

If it blocks view of the boss, no

Sylvermynx

Coatmagic wrote: »

All we really need is a Pet Shrink ability so all these bears and flappy things can be a lil less annoying.

Yeah, that would work for me - I like my bear and flappy, but I hate them too, so they're only out when I maybe think I'm going to be in combat. Smaller would be SO much better!

AcadianPaladin

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I really wish the scamp had a better texture and one of their usual skin colours, like brown, instead of the weird pale purple.

I don't disagree with your desire for an alternative color(s) but the current color makes sense in its own way. When a Daedra is destroyed, it returns to the 'waters of Oblvion' - which is the blue liquid stuff that forms lakes/rivers in Coldharbour and the color of the current summons. That is the reasoning anyway. Now, not all Daedra are that color so clearly there is more involved.

renne

I would agree if they added a skin so they don't block things and making them invisible for other players in PvE.

lihentian

one thing, i want spider daedra. and female demora

Sylvermynx

lihentian wrote: »

one thing, i want spider daedra. and female demora

Um. Spider daedra are HUGE. As a summons they'd be even worse than my bear or flappy....

Orion_89

Agree at all, but with few refinements:
— Because of it's sizes the daedroth is better to stay as monster set and not permanent
— Instead of dremora with variety of weapon it is better to make someone like Nocturnal Shrikes for physical damage and dremora (or even better xivilai because of their elemental abilities). Or a dremora instead of NS, why not.

Vetixio

Before they give Sorcs anymore permanent summons they need to give Necromancer some first, Necromancers as they are atm do not feel like Necromancers at all, if you compare them to NPC Necromancers/Bonelords. Player Necromancers are a joke.

WhereArtThouVampires

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Necro has first atro

Do you....actually think a flesh colossus is a frost atronach?

what

Morgha_Kul

Vetixio wrote: »

Before they give Sorcs anymore permanent summons they need to give Necromancer some first, Necromancers as they are atm do not feel like Necromancers at all, if you compare them to NPC Necromancers/Bonelords. Player Necromancers are a joke.

I agree entirely about necromancers. I've been trying to enjoy the one I made, but I just can't get into it. They should have been an almost entirely pet class.

However, I'm not suggesting ADDING new summons to the Sorceror, I'm talking about altering the current skills.

Also, while I can understand the desire for some of the newer types of daedra, I was trying to restrict the set to the more classic ones, scamp, clannfear, hunger, dremora, daedroth, twilight, atronachs...

Lugaldu

Coatmagic wrote: »

All we really need is a Pet Shrink ability so all these bears and flappy things can be a lil less annoying.

I don't know, I've read this idea several times, but I can't imagine that it looks good when the Warden bear suddenly shrinks to the size of a bear cub in the cities (and the owner perhaps runs around with two little bears). And I don't want to imagine my twilight in the size of a nixad either, that's unworthy. Automatic disappearance when entering the cities seems a better option to me.

Septimus_Magna

Vetixio wrote: »

Before they give Sorcs anymore permanent summons they need to give Necromancer some first, Necromancers as they are atm do not feel like Necromancers at all, if you compare them to NPC Necromancers/Bonelords. Player Necromancers are a joke.

I really hate pets that have to be slotted on both bars, its really annoying with the limited bar space we already have.

In my opinion the sorc pets should change to more interesting active skills so they take up less bar space and stop annoying everyone towns.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Vetixio wrote: »

Before they give Sorcs anymore permanent summons they need to give Necromancer some first, Necromancers as they are atm do not feel like Necromancers at all, if you compare them to NPC Necromancers/Bonelords. Player Necromancers are a joke.

Permanent summons wouldn't make necromaners feel like Elder Scrolls necromancers. Not when all their skills and magic is all Halloween cliché.

Eccentric_Vampire

I'd like to be able to summon a banekin. They're small so they probably won't get in the way plus they look cool.

Morgha_Kul

Eccentric_Vampire wrote: »

I'd like to be able to summon a banekin. They're small so they probably won't get in the way plus they look cool.

You can have a Banekin as a noncombat pet.