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Rumors about Proc sets and the hard truth about the people who want them gone.
I have 9 PVP builds that I grinned , bought DLCs , invested hundreds of thousands of gold and alliance points , gold mats and a great time of thought and play into . It’s my experience that the people who want proc sets gone are the same people who do not do anything that I had to do for my 9 PVP builds. They are the people that do not do anything for there builds except ask other people to craft them sets . If you don’t believe me ask the next person you hear saying that they can’t wait till proven sets to be gone to link there gear that they are wearing and you will see . Not only are they lazy , the don’t buy anything. No DLCs or anything to contribute to the ESO community. Please speak up and save are builds from being taken away. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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✭✭What part of this is supposed to be the "hard truth?"Edited by Agenericname on March 11, 2021 8:07PM51 -
All of it . Mainly the people who want proc sets gone are the same people who put nothing into there PvP builds .10
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am glad procs will be gone. And I have grinded gear for 18 characters, pretty regularly. Also own all expansions and and am an ESO+ subscriber. So, your assessment that we are all lazy players is wrong off the bat.
I prefer to use my class skills and my own skill to fight other players skills. And not have to worry about taking a bunch of free damage from players using free to cost light attacks and free to cost ele drain, or just taking damage. Damage that applies outside of the global cooldown. So it stacks on top of everything else and allows players to just proc and turtle up and let the sets kill for them. To me, and many others, procs are the lazy route to go and there is a lot more to support that argument than baseless claims of "that player didn't grind or do as much as me to get their gear."42 -
Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BornTritonXXL wrote: »I have 9 PVP builds that I grinned , bought DLCs , invested hundreds of thousands of gold and alliance points , gold mats and a great time of thought and play into . It’s my experience that the people who want proc sets gone are the same people who do not do anything that I had to do for my 9 PVP builds. They are the people that do not do anything for there builds except ask other people to craft them sets . If you don’t believe me ask the next person you hear saying that they can’t wait till proven sets to be gone to link there gear that they are wearing and you will see . Not only are they lazy , the don’t buy anything. No DLCs or anything to contribute to the ESO community. Please speak up and save are builds from being taken away. Thank you for your time and consideration.
I ran Zaan, Sylvarra's, way of the fire, Harbinger, etc most of those builds. I farmed those sets just like you did, which is how I know they're broken. Claiming that someone wants them gone because they are lazy, doesn't address that they are busted and created degenerate gameplay.
Procs had their "proc chance" removed, but ZOS never added a hard counter to replace it. There is no way for players to stop ZOS playing the game for you and killing them. That is a broken design.27 -
FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I am enjoying the feel of pvp right now.... and I have spent tons of telvar, gold to gold the sets out, money at traders, crystals to change traits, time farming dungeons, etc.
Don't assume.15 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭from my experience at least, people who want proc sets gone tend to be those that invest into their builds, practice rotations until they can do them in their sleep and generally build for high performance characters in a variety of situations - the kind that can keep going and going and going as opponents keep coming because they know how to optimize their skill usage AND enviroment... only to be one shot - not through player skill. but through a lucky proc.
and I say that as someone who absolutely did abuse proc sets because i have neither patience nor reflexes to actualy practice enough to be good without relying on a crutch of a proc set.
the hard truth is that this game has an exceptionally vast skill gap. proc sets closed that gap, not by making the gap itself smaller, but by providing a crutch. and another part of sad truth is.. no matter what ZoS does to sets, pvp will remain uneven for as long as combat is structured the way that it is. and i WISH I knew of a solution, that would keep the frantic precise fast timing that people on high end of the skill range enjoy, while also allowing those of us closer to the bottom - to keep up without relying on proc sets. but I do not.Edited by Linaleah on March 11, 2021 8:31PMdirty worthless casual.
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Mindcr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Finally someone has the bravery to say what we've all been thinking: stacking 50k+ hp and holding block while Thews kills whoever is attacking you is the apotheosis of skill and effort.30 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Proc set had been nice if they scaled of your resources.
This, I introduces an term in guild: tower trolls, you all know them, rock humpers if no towers nearby.I am glad procs will be gone. And I have grinded gear for 18 characters, pretty regularly. Also own all expansions and and am an ESO+ subscriber. So, your assessment that we are all lazy players is wrong off the bat.
I prefer to use my class skills and my own skill to fight other players skills. And not have to worry about taking a bunch of free damage from players using free to cost light attacks and free to cost ele drain, or just taking damage. Damage that applies outside of the global cooldown. So it stacks on top of everything else and allows players to just proc and turtle up and let the sets kill for them. To me, and many others, procs are the lazy route to go and there is a lot more to support that argument than baseless claims of "that player didn't grind or do as much as me to get their gear."
Solution is to ignore and evade, yes they can play 1v12 on an open field, noobs who try to 1v1 them in an tower get kicked.
Now bombers I have more respect forGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hold on, is that a mirror? Do I actually see someone saying using Procs is more skillfull and more investing than not running free damage, free heal, free everything Procs, that play the game for you? Because running normal dungeons obviously is a testament of skill or god bless imagine being able to play overworld...Edited by L_Nici on March 11, 2021 8:56PMPC|EU10 -
MrGraves✭✭✭✭I don't play pvp but I hate proc sets in pve. i dont mind the ones that are just like. you get a buff proc but the dmg proc sets? we could do without them. overall across any game type IMO4 -
Scardan✭✭✭✭✭I don't play pvp but I hate proc sets in pve. i dont mind the ones that are just like. you get a buff proc but the dmg proc sets? we could do without them. overall across any game type IMO
I will bite anybody who will take my Defiler set from me, gau gau. Rrrrr. Even when I play as magcro, don't touch it xD
Really, damaging proc sets are fun in PvE and they are weaker than stat buffing gear. Even your monster set is like only 5% damage, lol. Five, not fifty. Why hate them in PvE?Let's be extremely precise in our use of terms.4 -
To be clear I’m talking about PVP. I also agree that it should not take a group to kill one player but don’t nerf everything.0
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Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BornTritonXXL wrote: »I have 9 PVP builds that I grinned , bought DLCs , invested hundreds of thousands of gold and alliance points , gold mats and a great time of thought and play into . It’s my experience that the people who want proc sets gone are the same people who do not do anything that I had to do for my 9 PVP builds. They are the people that do not do anything for there builds except ask other people to craft them sets . If you don’t believe me ask the next person you hear saying that they can’t wait till proven sets to be gone to link there gear that they are wearing and you will see . Not only are they lazy , the don’t buy anything. No DLCs or anything to contribute to the ESO community. Please speak up and save are builds from being taken away. Thank you for your time and consideration.
"Lazy", hardly. It's called having a real life outside of ESO.
I want to login ESO & PvP competitively w/o spending hundreds of thousands of gold (& hours) in PvE land for every new PvE update of fluff and proc meta changes.
PvP needs to be cut from PvE land once and for all, & this is a good start.Edited by Wolfpaw on March 11, 2021 10:31PM5 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh so when are we going to dog on people who pay gold for clears on content they can't run to get perfected trial gear???
.....I'll wait.
(As a pvper and a crafter I am not who OP is talking to. I just think they should be objective)Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!6 -
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✭✭✭So... Reluctancy to grind is the hard truth?
People don't like proc sets because they aren't balanced. They allow you to run unfathomably tanky builds and still have insanely high damage. They don't like them because they reduce an otherwise incredible combat system down to one button builds.11 -
OneKhajiitCrimeWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭Some people just don't like the style of game with procs in, which I understand (different strokes for different folks etc).
Most of the current "problematic" proc sets didn't have much of an issue in the game until Malacath came about (Harbinger is an old set, Syvarra's is an old set) or were some of the pushed proc sets which have become the face of this hatred for procs (Crimson).
While I wish ZOS's coding hadn't made so many sets deemed as procs (Darloc Brae, Swamp Raider/War Maiden/Sun, Pelinal's Aptitude to name but a few) I can understand why people are celebrating a meta where your death recap isn't a bunch of people spamming light attacks to get procs to go off on you (I'M LOOKING AT YOU HUNTER'S VENOM lol)
As someone who was incredibly annoyed by the removal of so many sets (no, not the broken ones) and argued against such a sweeping change on a whim, I don't like to generalise about the player base who liked the change, or what gear they have.Dark Flare is the Beginning, Radiant is the End. Hail the Light Bringers!6 -
Reaper_00✭✭✭✭BornTritonXXL wrote: »I have 9 PVP builds that I grinned , bought DLCs , invested hundreds of thousands of gold and alliance points , gold mats and a great time of thought and play into . It’s my experience that the people who want proc sets gone are the same people who do not do anything that I had to do for my 9 PVP builds. They are the people that do not do anything for there builds except ask other people to craft them sets . If you don’t believe me ask the next person you hear saying that they can’t wait till proven sets to be gone to link there gear that they are wearing and you will see . Not only are they lazy , the don’t buy anything. No DLCs or anything to contribute to the ESO community. Please speak up and save are builds from being taken away. Thank you for your time and consideration.
I've spent millions of gold crafting and golding gear (including jewellery), have 12 builds, subbed eso+ for four years and bought the collectors editions of every chapter and I prefer the current no-proc PVP.
So I guess your hypothesis is wrong then.15 -
Elo106✭✭✭✭✭I also want more than 18 sets at my disposal and think Zos shouldnt have just assumed everyone wanted this to continue without giving us an alternative but I doubt the people who enjoy the 18 sets want it because they are too lazy to get sets from dungeons or other means.
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✭I've spent millions of gold crafting and Golding gear (including jewelry), have 13+ builds, subbed ESO+ for 2+ years, cancelled it for other reasons in the blue screen era, and bought all the chapters and DLC's available (no longer ESO+, I didn't buy some collectors editions as the mounts are ugly and just got the normal version) and I prefer all sets allowed and CP enabled PVP.
So I guess he may have a point.Main Character:PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP Pure-class:
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed
PvE: Specialty
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used:
*Breton
**Imperial
***Argonian
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Jackey✭✭✭✭✭The sets aren't hard to get. It's on you if you golded out FOTM sets for 9 characters.
I'm always careful of what I use my gold mats on so I don't end up with a legendary-Sload's Semblance-set-in-my-bank type of situation.PS | EU8 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah sorry but its a no from me, I have been playing for years, have golded out so much gear. recently though I havent bothered grinding the new best most OP sets because i have learnt the cycle of Zos and the nerfs are inevitable.
I will say that not all proc sets are bad, ones that grant you stats like Necropotence/ BSW/ or cost reduction etc should remain.
I remember the days before One Tamriel and all these new proc sets started coming out and although there were OP things it felt like better gameplay.PS NA
Have played all classes.
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finehair✭✭✭✭I have 6 characters with different pvp builds that use different gear, I use purple armor and gold weapons. Probably half the armor got tristat enchants.
I used sets that are now considered proc in most if not all of them.
But i would deconstruct them all if it means proc stuff is out of cyro for longer. I despised my stamsorc build that deals all of the damage with only using crit strike and watching multiple set go off at the same time.
Or my necro that spammed poison injection and procced 3 sets+weapon poison. It was easier and kind of only way to play since everyone else had even harder proc damage since I don't have malacath ring.
On the other hand, i used sets like fury as well. I don't think they are as annoying as, say crimson set.1 -
Kadraeus✭✭✭✭BornTritonXXL wrote: »To be clear I’m talking about PVP. I also agree that it should not take a group to kill one player but don’t nerf everything.
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✭Don't talk for me, because you're horribly wrong @BornTritonXXL
I play since launch, both PvP and endgame PvE, have all expansions, ESO+ etc.
And I want damage procs gone, at least in the CP campaign.
But since you think I'm lazy, meet me Alik'r?9 -
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✭✭Once they start getting 2 shot by stat builds they will beg for the return of proc sets.1 -
Pauwer✭✭✭✭✭If i can just go back to killing anyone and everyone on my nb, i'm all for it
tanky peeps need to be removed. 2 -
Shardaxx✭✭✭✭✭Could shorten the OP to "People who don't agree with me suck!"
Some classes/builds are far, far too tanky atm, and I understand this is all down to proc sets. Players shouldn't be able to kite 10 people around for 10 mins without dying, its just daft. I don't know whether the removal of procs has been confirmed yet, but if it removes this element of pvp, then I hope they go.PS4 - Europe - Shardaxx - Wood Elf Nightblade - Aldmeri Dominion3
