That one guy who had CP 3600 before the patch...

Lumsdenml

He's gotta feel pretty smug now, right?

Sheezabeast

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

Merlin13KAGL

Sure he's absolutely bewildered at all the slottable possibilities, all 4 of them.

renne

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

tmbrinks

renne wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

feels bad, my main is an Argonian Templar, from day 1 of the game.

magnusthorek

I've watched a video from Liko about a Khajiit magplar dual-wielding daggers. I confess I've got confused why Magicka would use daggers and by Khajiit's tooltip I didn't get its passive bonus being applied to (spell/magic) damage

oddbasket

He must be bummed, feeling like the only one who didn't get a level cap increase to work towards.

renne

tmbrinks wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

feels bad, my main is an Argonian Templar, from day 1 of the game.

My sympathies, friend.

DMuehlhausen

I think I've only seen 1 person over 2000 before let alone already 3600

TimeViewer

1481 and my main IS an argonian nightblade ;p
Started as a stamblade, became a tank, now a magblade
tomorrow... maybe a wheel of cheese

I have 15 chars on this account, and trying to work out what to splatter my points over... wheeeee

yup, cheese

ArchMikem

oddbasket wrote: »

He must be bummed, feeling like the only one who didn't get a level cap increase to work towards.

Considering I'm only at 1,300 after five and a half YEARS, the implication that someone having two thousand more CP than I do is pretty bewildering.

ZaroktheImmortal

Even at the current rate it's going to take forever to max out. I have no idea how anyone managed to max it out on the old system even now it's going to be a *** load of grind

Artorias24

2000 CPs are more then enough to get everything combat related. Additional 1600 wont change anything.

Dagoth_Rac

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Even at the current rate it's going to take forever to max out. I have no idea how anyone managed to max it out on the old system even now it's going to be a *** load of grind

I think a lot of the CP grinding for really high level CP characters was done back when every CP cost 400,000 XP. Didn't matter if it was your first or your 3600th. That is a lot for your first CP, but kind of a bargain for your later CP, compared to the dynamic system we have now where your first CP costs like 1 XP and CP 3600 costs like 10 trillion XP.

I seem to remember people grinding some cave full of goblins in Cyrodiil because if your faction was winning the campaign (and there were more campaigns back then, thus easier to find one where your faction always dominated), you got an XP buff. It was like Skyreach on steroids.

wheresbes

TimeViewer wrote: »

1481 and my main IS an argonian nightblade ;p
Started as a stamblade, became a tank, now a magblade
tomorrow... maybe a wheel of cheese

Them: "Play as you want"
Me: "Yes, Sir!"

My Nord magblade with 530CP that loves to brawl says hello

SammyKhajit

This one bets on a moon sugar cheese that they will be selling CP soon in the crown store.

Snowstrider

renne wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

Why? Did Templar get nerfed?

Adventurer

Snowstrider wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

Why? Did Templar get nerfed?

There's been a retrospective on this recently, actually. Basically each patch has been nerfing the Templars more and more, esp. after the One Tamriel update.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/562687/since-i-joined-recently-can-you-explain-the-history-of-templar-nerfs/

All stuns got removed (Jabs, Spear), only Toppling Charge has it, Jesus Beam (Radiant Destro) was nerfed and then bugged for years - not properly scaling the damage in proportion to magicka, Sun Shield was so much nerfed it's the worst damage shield in the game and Harness Magicka is/was used by any build that needed a Shield instead, Major Mending was removed because it was "too strong" but then Wardens got it when the class launched while we still haven't receved ours back, Ritual of Retribution's heal was removed and the other morph no longer gets rid of all negative conditions but only 2 (RoR healed+damaged, the other one purged+healed). Breath of Life healed you+2 others in any range (eg. behiind you), it was nerfed so now it's a smaller heal and just for you+1 in front of you. Eclipse and its morphs were unusable for years, there was a period of time when they were good but then they were nerfed, one used to reflect damage+projectiles back at the enemy for several seconds so it was great in PVE and PVP, although at least the stun one morph currently seems usable (but grants CC immunity to the enemy after it ends for some time). Templars still don't have access to Major Sorcery as a skill class, which was compensated by having Major Mending, but that got removed so now we don't have either of the two, while other classes have them. Not to mention having the passive Wall bugged for yearss, it only got fixed now, or have some of the damage mitigation bonuses got removed from various skills. Ritual of Ret actually gave a bonus to healing, as did various other skills. Overall the Templar was just nerfed, one of the only boosts I remember they got was making the Major Resolve from Rune Focus not apply only when you stand in the tiny circle, but it's on you for the whole duration, making it it line with the other classes, and fixing bugs. ANd undoing the nerf to Burning Light in this patch, or at least making it not as bad. Otherwise, if you check the patches, it's nerf after nerf. They even got the Blinding Flashes skill removed way back before 2016 and replaced with Radiant Destro.

I didn't actually know that RoR doesn't heal anymore, as I'm playing on and off, I onl found out this week, so I was dropping it in random daily dungeons as a healer since November and didn't realize it doesn't heal anymore. . I hope I didn't come across as a fake healer, but I guess the other healing skills compensated for it (and the party's other healing skills). That nerf must've happened in one of those periods when I was taking a break from the game, since I keep it permanently on my bar, so I didn't have the need to re-check its descriptioin and it wasn't mentioned in any of the patch notes I read.

Reverb

I have 1900 and most of them are useless. More points only unlock more slottables, but we’re all still restricted to 4. I have no edge over someone with 1000cp, and no less advantage over someone with 3000cp.

Having 4 from each tree keeps the system pretty flat. It’s not much difference from the previous cp cap and having to respec CP before each trial to get optimal CP allocation for those fights because you couldn’t just use them all. This is the same.

Dragonnord

Lumsdenml wrote: »

He's gotta feel pretty smug now, right?

Why? Half of those 3600 cannot be used anyways.

magnusthorek

Adventurer wrote: »

There's been a retrospective on this recently, actually. Basically each patch has been nerfing the Templars more and more, esp. after the One Tamriel update.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/562687/since-i-joined-recently-can-you-explain-the-history-of-templar-nerfs/

Not to mention we're mostly a melee...ish class that doesn't have the goodies we could have while having all (or more) of the losses.

And yet, lots of Templars remain as DPS, faithful that, one day, things will change this deplorable state we are that, IMHO, only remains because "famous" players give us false-positive notoriety with high-numbers parses on a silly stationary dummy.

volkeswagon

I think if one has that many CP points I would be worried for them. You couldn't have a job or much of a social life to aquire all that in 5 years.

BeefcakeManwich

renne wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Nah they probably main an Argonian Nightblade and rage quit

You spelled Templar wrong

I remembered when I created my first character and thought argonian templar was the best combo. I'll say one thing. He's been my most reliable bank mule still.

Starlight_Whisper

They could be famous now. Just imagine being in a group with that guy or gal?

Adventurer

Reverb wrote: »

Not to mention we're mostly a melee...ish class that doesn't have the goodies we could have while having all (or more) of the losses.

And yet, lots of Templars remain as DPS, faithful that, one day, things will change this deplorable state we are that, IMHO, only remains because "famous" players give us false-positive notoriety with high-numbers parses on a silly stationary dummy.

Yeah, it's sad. Well, hopefully they might give at least Major Mending back? Or is it too hopeful? Maybe if they're bombarded wtih topics and questions in livestream why don't we get that back at least they might do it.

PizzaCat82

Artorias24 wrote: »

2000 CPs are more then enough to get everything combat related. Additional 1600 wont change anything.

A lot of the game isn't combat related though, which means that lots of people will have some hard choices to make.

itscompton

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

2000 CPs are more then enough to get everything combat related. Additional 1600 wont change anything.

A lot of the game isn't combat related though, which means that lots of people will have some hard choices to make.

It would be more accurate to say 2000 CP is enough to fill out all the passives + 4 actives in all the categories so at that point you'll be as effective as possible whether your a tank, dd or healer.
I do get that from a crafting standpoint being able to have all the actives in the green tree open so you can quickly swap them depending on what you're doing would be advantageous. But that's more a matter of convenience rather than an issue of game balance.

tc91101

The green tree sort of annoys me. The gathering and speed skills are locked behind either Inspiration/Disassembly 65 points or Wanderer/Steadfast/Treasure Hunter 75 points. Furthermore, if you have enough points to get them all you have to fool around with swapping in and out which is just an annoyance.

nryerson1025

I thought that 3600 guy was one of the IC XP exploiters. Is that not true?

Iarao

ArchMikem wrote: »

oddbasket wrote: »

He must be bummed, feeling like the only one who didn't get a level cap increase to work towards.

Considering I'm only at 1,300 after five and a half YEARS, the implication that someone having two thousand more CP than I do is pretty bewildering.

lots of dungeons, trials, and grinding. and maybe always on a scroll and/or drink?

Iarao

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Even at the current rate it's going to take forever to max out. I have no idea how anyone managed to max it out on the old system even now it's going to be a *** load of grind

I think a lot of the CP grinding for really high level CP characters was done back when every CP cost 400,000 XP. Didn't matter if it was your first or your 3600th. That is a lot for your first CP, but kind of a bargain for your later CP, compared to the dynamic system we have now where your first CP costs like 1 XP and CP 3600 costs like 10 trillion XP.

I seem to remember people grinding some cave full of goblins in Cyrodiil because if your faction was winning the campaign (and there were more campaigns back then, thus easier to find one where your faction always dominated), you got an XP buff. It was like Skyreach on steroids.

hehe more like 3b and some. someone figured it out.