THANK YOU ZENIMAX I LOVE YOU BABE

Attackopsn

6 months of perfection, absolutely gorgeous pvp @ZOS_GinaBruno tell the entire staff you are all beautiful people and we love you for this!!!!

A meta highlighting this game’s strong, deep combat system, breathing an incredible breath of fresh air that the dedicated community was begging for 🤪

Sangwyne

Attackopsn wrote: »

6 months of perfection, absolutely gorgeous pvp @ZOS_GinaBruno tell the entire staff you are all beautiful people and we love you for this!!!!

A meta highlighting this game’s strong, deep combat system, breathing an incredible breath of fresh air that the dedicated community was begging for 🤪

Same here, but genuine this time. ZOS implemented exactly what the players thought they wanted: no procs. With Heavy nerfed next patch and procs gone for the next 6 months, it's a real breath of fresh air to see them realize they can't deflect blame on the other aspects of the game anymore and need to come to terms with the real issue: themselves.

FlaviusPK

SeaArcanist

i'd be on board for the next 6 months if they could implement sets that aren't technically proc back into cyrodiil.

propertyOfUndefined

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

Wolfpaw

Sounds like ZOS has some vision for the future of PvP in ESO, & this will give them that time.

SeaArcanist

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

19 sets to pick from. very dull imo. at least implement the sets back that aren't REAL procs x.x...

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Be ready for the most bland 6 month of pvp ever

FlaviusPK

Somebody was talking about pve cyrodiil back then on some zos stream... so guys... maybe this is where we're going.

fredthefrown

My $&@! is still broken tho

Just broken without procs

Technically better I guess

Sju

Attackopsn wrote: »

6 months of perfection, absolutely gorgeous pvp @ZOS_GinaBruno tell the entire staff you are all beautiful people and we love you for this!!!!

A meta highlighting this game’s strong, deep combat system, breathing an incredible breath of fresh air that the dedicated community was begging for 🤪

If performance was worse on PC, and you're on PS4, you're in for some heartbreak...

Dr_Ganknstein

If you couldn't hack it in the proc meta you probably aren't going to fair well in no-proc either. Good players adapt, this change is just boring because not only are they banning the sets that you couldn't figure out how to beat, they are also banning a massive amount of sets like bone pirate, bright throat, etc. Theory crafting is basically dead, with little you can change. The sorc population is surging, cyrodiil isn't even pop locked on a Saturday night now. The first couple weeks will be ultra zergy though, and performance with go to the crapper, then the pop will dwindle.

ArchMikem

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

Isn't that what everybody does already, wear the same sets with the same builds cause they're BiS.

Dr_Ganknstein

ArchMikem wrote: »

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

Isn't that what everybody does already, wear the same sets with the same builds cause they're BiS.

No, some players actually make up their own builds believe it or not. Hell, if that's how you play then why not just make it so everyone has the same flat stat gear?

Contaminate

Well, I’m glad I don’t PvP. I’m not really interested in fights turning into basic stat checks.

emilyhyoyeon

keep double AP turned on

Athan1

Dr_Ganknstein wrote: »

The sorc population is surging

I see what you did there

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

Because the people that don't try to or can't get better will still come screaming for nerfs which is probably what started all of this in the first place

Wandering_Immigrant

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

Agreed. The main drawl of this game for for me is theory crafting through all the many sets. This turns over 90% of the sets in the game into decon trash.

I get that people are sick of the proc-tanks, but this is like cutting off your finger because you have a hang-nail. I've never said this about any MMO I've ever played, but maybe it's time for the devs to look to the community for a solution, there's been plenty suggested. Picking one of those out of a hat would be better than throwing your hands in the air and saying; "welp, I dunno, what are sets can we get rid of those??" Which is what this feels like.

SeaArcanist

They will need to implement a new NPC in cyrodiil who explains what sets work or not. can you immagine a new player entering cyrodiil after grinding for their gear, only to be confused as to why their gear isnt working?

SeaArcanist

or is ZOS under the assumption no new players will join and they dont need to further tell people 90% of the sets don't work?

Moonsorrow

SeaArcanist wrote: »

They will need to implement a new NPC in cyrodiil who explains what sets work or not. can you immagine a new player entering cyrodiil after grinding for their gear, only to be confused as to why their gear isnt working?

Imagine the daily forum messages of "Cyrodiil full of macro exploit animation canceling cheaters that don't take damage from my procs!!"

Ace_SiN

I'd love it if ZOS didn't code almost every set to be considered a "proc". After all these years, this is NOT what the vast majority of the community despised about their direction with gear sets. The issue was being able to gain 1-2 extra globals of damage/healing by mindlessly spamming abilities. This was counterintuitive to needing to manage resources to burst, understanding how to properly sync skills to burst, and being able to counter these same attempts by your opponent. The "fun" of the current no proc ruleset could have still been garnered without a hefty cost that nobody asked for.

We all know there are some classes/specs that crutch on proc sets to be viable but these sets shouldn't have been the excuse to ignore buffing poor class designs.

amm7sb14_ESO

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Unpopular opinion, but this sounds incredibly dull with no diversity / creativity at all.

Why not just give everybody the same set of gear with the same stats?

That sounds like what meta gamers already want to turn the game into

Tandor

This whole argument sounds very typical of most changes that are made to the game - skyshards in the crown store being an obvious example - in that people demand certain things and then the very same people complain when those things happen because they don't like the way they were implemented, or it turns out when they see them that they didn't really want them after all. All those clamoring for class change tokens and account-wide achievements should take note!

spekdah

Just became the most boring combat game ever. So many sets you can't use or experiment with. The double AP is the only thing making it bearable. It's still laggy, even worse but that might be the event.

5_RAGEsMW

It's weird how it's still laggy though with just 17 non proc sets. It's obviously that their servers can't handle ball groups. As a solo player 90% of time I'll never understand how can people zerg and enjoy this game it's a freaking slide show and skills don't work. Even being in the middle of nowhere I can't cast a roll dodge vigor or relentless. Incap which misses like 50% of time thanks to cast times and lag. I miss the fluid combat this game used to have that was like the whole point of eso. Casuals will never understand this because they never bothered to learn, to them the game is fine as it is right now.