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Druid in ESO

Vanos444
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This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
Druid,
1. Bear form ( tank )
This firm as the basic functions of a tank
2. Tiger form ( DPS )
This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
3. Peacock form ( healer )
This form performs the healer role.
4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
Future forms....
5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
You can swim and dive in water!!!
6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
You can fly!!!

  • starkerealm
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    The Warden is ESO's version of the Druid.
  • Mindcr0w
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    I know it isn't exactly the same, but there is already so much overlap between a classic rpg druid and a warden that it would be incredibly redundant to have both.

    Never happen.
  • Nairinhe
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    I'd run around as a peacock, but what about abilities and animations? Whole new set for one bar, like WW?

    And diving and flying aren't supported by game engine and locations layout.
  • RedMuse
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    We already have a druid class, they're called Wardens.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    This isn't WoW.
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  • WhereArtThouVampires
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    Vanos444 wrote: »
    This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
    Druid,
    1. Bear form ( tank )
    This firm as the basic functions of a tank
    2. Tiger form ( DPS )
    This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
    3. Peacock form ( healer )
    This form performs the healer role.
    4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
    You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
    Future forms....
    5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
    You can swim and dive in water!!!
    6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
    You can fly!!!

    Warden says hi

    If you want a druid with different forms like you mention sounds like you should go play WoW. As they have air and sea forms.

    Also I love how your idea literally is just a rip off from WoW and literally druid forms have NOTHING to do with ESO or its lore.

    Let's try to not become a WoW clone, shall we?
    Edited by WhereArtThouVampires on March 6, 2021 6:30PM
  • Ace_SiN
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    Elder Scrolls is more about the learning/mastery of different magic schools than being a specific "class". However, since ESO is the exception I'd like to see a class that utilizes illusion and alteration style of magic. I think these are the only schools left that are not represented by a class.
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  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    A Druid class in ESO would most likely not involve transforming into other forms, since there are already were-creatures for that. That might be how Blizzard games have done it, but it's by no means a necessary trait of druids.

    I guess my point is to design something for ESO specifically, not just how it works in other games

    I'd look at the wyrd mages in Glenumbra/Bangkorai and Reach mages like Arana for what you seem to consider a typical European-style Druid
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  • AH93
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    I believe Warden is as close as you're going to get to a Druid-esque class.

    I'm all for a Peacock form though...
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    Vanos444 wrote: »
    This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
    Druid,
    1. Bear form ( tank )
    This firm as the basic functions of a tank
    2. Tiger form ( DPS )
    This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
    3. Peacock form ( healer )
    This form performs the healer role.
    4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
    You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
    Future forms....
    5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
    You can swim and dive in water!!!
    6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
    You can fly!!!

    My brother-in-law is a Druid. He never told me he could do all that stuff :o
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  • Wolfpaw
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    Have to wait til lotr & possibly lol mmorpg's to be released.
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Sharks with legs running through Cyrodill and biting people - that might be interesting... :D
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  • Joy_Division
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    Vanos444 wrote: »
    This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
    Druid,
    1. Bear form ( tank )
    This firm as the basic functions of a tank
    2. Tiger form ( DPS )
    This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
    3. Peacock form ( healer )
    This form performs the healer role.
    4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
    You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
    Future forms....
    5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
    You can swim and dive in water!!!
    6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
    You can fly!!!

    My brother-in-law is a Druid. He never told me he could do all that stuff :o

    Druidic rites and language are sworn to secrecy.
  • WeerW3ir
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    oh no... we cannot be a druid!
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    Edited by WeerW3ir on March 6, 2021 8:38PM
  • Lugaldu
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    I don't know, but I have a different idea of druids. Druids were scholars with cultic functions in Celtic society in Europe in the last centuries BC and first centuries AD. Where is the connection to the proposed class as some sort of shapeshifters?
  • firstgirltwo
    Not unless we get Bards and Tinkerers first. And it's probably never going to happpen.
  • WhereArtThouVampires
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    Not unless we get Bards and Tinkerers first. And it's probably never going to happpen.

    God can only hope that we never see a bard or tinkerer class.

    At max a tinkerer skill line might be neat.
  • starkerealm
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    Lugaldu wrote: »
    I don't know, but I have a different idea of druids. Druids were scholars with cultic functions in Celtic society in Europe in the last centuries BC and first centuries AD. Where is the connection to the proposed class as some sort of shapeshifters?

    I'd say D&D, but really, it's WoW.

    In D&D, a "Druid" is a spellcaster who draws their magic from nature. One of the class defining features is, "wildshape," which allows them to transform into an animal (or animals), and (depending on the edition) can expand into a wide range of alternate forms.
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    Not unless we get Bards and Tinkerers first. And it's probably never going to happpen.

    Make a nightblade, play an instrument, get into trading, learn alchemy, get the persuade and intimidate skills, and there you go, quite close to what a bard is in Elder Scrolls. That, or just stand in an tavern and play all day for drakes.
    We could only get closer if we get a class or skills that focus more on illusion magic.

    ESO is not D&D either.

    [Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!
  • UntilValhalla13
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    I mean, druids could transform in everquest, before wow was even a thing.
  • Tensar
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    Ace_SiN wrote: »
    Elder Scrolls is more about the learning/mastery of different magic schools than being a specific "class". However, since ESO is the exception I'd like to see a class that utilizes illusion and alteration style of magic. I think these are the only schools left that are not represented by a class.

    nightblade = illusion

    DK = alteration
  • Ratzkifal
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    We did get some more shapeshifting lore in Greymoor, so it's not completely outside of the realm of possibilities, but much like the Warden is now, this class would be very region specific to make sense.
    It's very unlikely to ever happen as ZOS considered their approach to Wardens being thematically tied to Morrowind a mistake.

    Also from a design perspective a shapeshifting class would be quite challenging if not downright impossible. Bone Colossus and Vampire Lord are very much the same and only slightly different from your regular character while Werewolves are restricted to a specific skill set. A shapeshifting class would need new animations for every single skill multiplied by every transformation available to them, especially if these transformations are nonhumanoid creatures like the ones you mentioned.
    WoW was obviously designed around this type of gameplay since every class pretty much only has its class skills, which are all already custom made and rarely as detailed as in ESO anyway. But in ESO every single weapon, armor, world, guild and alliance war skill needs to work during transformation, unless you make it like the Werewolf transformation which I doubt is what you are looking for.
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  • Starlight_Whisper
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    Vanos444 wrote: »
    This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
    Druid,
    1. Bear form ( tank )
    This firm as the basic functions of a tank
    2. Tiger form ( DPS )
    This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
    3. Peacock form ( healer )
    This form performs the healer role.
    4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
    You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
    Future forms....
    5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
    You can swim and dive in water!!!
    6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
    You can fly!!!

    That's bloody shaman, druid in history are about studying life but most modern lore calls them nature lovers and warden does that
  • Starlight_Whisper
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    Vanos444 wrote: »
    This is just a basic idea of Druidism in ESO
    Druid,
    1. Bear form ( tank )
    This firm as the basic functions of a tank
    2. Tiger form ( DPS )
    This form as the basic functions of a DPS class.
    3. Peacock form ( healer )
    This form performs the healer role.
    4. Cheetah form ( Travel )
    You don't need to buy a mount, you are the mount!
    Future forms....
    5. Shark Form ( Travel in water )
    You can swim and dive in water!!!
    6. Eagle form ( Travel by air )
    You can fly!!!

    My brother-in-law is a Druid. He never told me he could do all that stuff :o

    😂 Cause it's 100 percent wrong. Just a reminder why eso designs things better then wow.
  • starkerealm
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    Tensar wrote: »
    Ace_SiN wrote: »
    Elder Scrolls is more about the learning/mastery of different magic schools than being a specific "class". However, since ESO is the exception I'd like to see a class that utilizes illusion and alteration style of magic. I think these are the only schools left that are not represented by a class.

    nightblade = illusion

    DK = alteration

    Nightblades are shadow mages. Their in class abilities don't line up with the "Traditional," schools of magic on Tamriel. (Shadow Mages previously appeared in the Elder Scrolls Travels games, though ESO's Nightblades are the first time that kind of magic was available to players.)

    Similarly, Dragon Knights practice Akaviri Martial Arts, by default they don't even know the basics of, "conventional," spellcasting.
  • Tensar
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    Tensar wrote: »
    Ace_SiN wrote: »
    Elder Scrolls is more about the learning/mastery of different magic schools than being a specific "class". However, since ESO is the exception I'd like to see a class that utilizes illusion and alteration style of magic. I think these are the only schools left that are not represented by a class.

    nightblade = illusion

    DK = alteration

    Nightblades are shadow mages. Their in class abilities don't line up with the "Traditional," schools of magic on Tamriel. (Shadow Mages previously appeared in the Elder Scrolls Travels games, though ESO's Nightblades are the first time that kind of magic was available to players.)

    Similarly, Dragon Knights practice Akaviri Martial Arts, by default they don't even know the basics of, "conventional," spellcasting.

    Still they both use the schools we know.

    Destruction and Alteration for DK. Alteration = the armor and shield often used by tanks. It can be an akaviri style technic but still it dosn't change it's related to the alteration school.

    Illusion for Nightblade = invisibility, don't need to look for more (and there is more of illusions spell in this class)
  • BlueRaven
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    Personally, I would not mind just seeing a were-bear introduced. It is lore friendly.

    Also, speaking of wardens, it would be nice to get additional skins for the bear to customize the animal. Not to change the actual mechanics of the bear pet, just change the look of it.
  • starkerealm
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    Tensar wrote: »
    Tensar wrote: »
    Ace_SiN wrote: »
    Elder Scrolls is more about the learning/mastery of different magic schools than being a specific "class". However, since ESO is the exception I'd like to see a class that utilizes illusion and alteration style of magic. I think these are the only schools left that are not represented by a class.

    nightblade = illusion

    DK = alteration

    Nightblades are shadow mages. Their in class abilities don't line up with the "Traditional," schools of magic on Tamriel. (Shadow Mages previously appeared in the Elder Scrolls Travels games, though ESO's Nightblades are the first time that kind of magic was available to players.)

    Similarly, Dragon Knights practice Akaviri Martial Arts, by default they don't even know the basics of, "conventional," spellcasting.

    Still they both use the schools we know.

    Destruction and Alteration for DK. Alteration = the armor and shield often used by tanks. It can be an akaviri style technic but still it dosn't change it's related to the alteration school.

    Illusion for Nightblade = invisibility, don't need to look for more (and there is more of illusions spell in this class)

    Again, they don't actually do that.

    Cloak in particular is a distinct spell from Invisibility and Chameleon. All three have the effect of concealing the caster, but that's about as far as the comparison goes. Shadow magic, in particular, allows for direct damage, and healing, things which Illusion really doesn't permit.

    It's also very important to understand, Shadow Magic isn't just a different school of magic, it is an entirely different kind of magic. Saying, "well, it's illusion," is a little like arguing over which school a given Dragon Shout belongs to.

    If you dig up (and actually read) the lorebooks on Nightblades, what you'll find is the magic they're practicing is more akin to conjuration. They're distorting the relation of objects in reality, and the language used is more in line with what someone would use to travel between daedric realms.

    The short answer is, it's really not illusion magic, and is something entirely different.

    The Dragon Knights are a similar situation. It's not that the Akaviri martial arts tap into Alteration, it's that this is an entirely distinct kind of magic. It's easier to categorize Ardent Flame as a kind of hybrid between alteration and destruction, but again, the actual magical system is not the same as what Guild Mages practice.

    Beyond that, the Warden practices nature magic, we've seen that before with various witches in previous games (and even with the Wyrd Sisters), but it's not something that we've had access to.

    Now, it's not like these forms of magic are completely incomprehensible to magical analysis by guild mages (there's examples of this with the Nightblades in their skillbooks), but the Nightblades, Templars, Wardens, and Dragon Knights all practice distinct forms of magic.

    It's worth noting that it's not entirely clear if the Shadow Magic that Nightblades practice is the same as Azra Nightwielder's, though if that's the case, it explains a lot. Because it would mean that Nightblades are tapping into the powers of Nocturnal for their abilities, and suddenly the similarity between the magic used to interact with the planes of oblivion and a Nightblade's Shadow Magic would make a lot more sense.

    If there's one takeaway for you from all of this, it's that the Guild's schools of magic represent a tiny fraction of the range of magic which appears on Nirn. Even within the single player games, we're frequently presented with things that don't easily fit into these categories, and there's academic conflict within The Guild over which schools of magic matter. Hence the removal of Mysticism and Thaumaturgy from previous games.
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    Wardens. Next.
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  • DreamsUnderStars
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    This isn't WoW.

    No! Seriously!?

    WoW wasn't the first MMO to have Druids.
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