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Are you happy that eso is deleting % 90 of sets of the next 6 mouths in PVP
JonnytheKing
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So im not happy for a couple reasons
1, Lag has been worse by far in aussie prime time since the tests satrted
2, builds will get very boring very fast
3, i think this will make a lot of poeple will leave after the douple ap ends , we have all ready seen this in aussie prime time.
4, class imbalance is massive
Edited by JonnytheKing on March 6, 2021 12:00PM 1, Lag has been worse by far in aussie prime time since the tests satrted
2, builds will get very boring very fast
3, i think this will make a lot of poeple will leave after the douple ap ends , we have all ready seen this in aussie prime time.
4, class imbalance is massive
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Are you happy that eso is deleting % 90 of sets of the next 6 mouths in PVP 189 votes
YES
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If they made stat based procsets work id be happy
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NOYes, I'm thrilled that all the money I spent on DLCs to get the latest and greatest gear went to waste.RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.4 -
Sangwyne✭✭✭✭✭
✭YESPerhaps this will cause players to think critically about the ramifications that their demands for sweeping changes will have on the game in the future.
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Haha, no it won't. ZOS doesn't go over everything with a fine toothed comb, they bring in the bulldozer. Remember that for next time, what you ask for will not be exactly what arrives.8 -
erio✭✭✭✭✭NOPerhaps this will cause players to think critically about the ramifications that their demands for sweeping changes will have on the game in the future.
Thats definitely not a harmful and incredibly flawed mindset regarding this situation.
-Players ask for sets like crimson to be disabled, because its bad for the game and they dont like it
-Zos disables all but 15 sets for a few weeks "To fix lag"
-haha jk its 6+ months
Like this is 100% zos's fault, not the players for simply asking for a simple change to have a better experience.2 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Asking ZoS for nerfs is like asking for close in fire support from a death star, its in my signaturePerhaps this will cause players to think critically about the ramifications that their demands for sweeping changes will have on the game in the future.
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Haha, no it won't. ZOS doesn't go over everything with a fine toothed comb, they bring in the bulldozer. Remember that for next time, what you ask for will not be exactly what arrives.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
Ascarl✭✭✭✭✭YESThe only thing that annoys me is the whing in every thread started on any other topic in this forum.3 -
Bradyfjord✭✭✭✭✭NOSeems like they could change many of these 'proc' sets and move on. I hope they modify sets with %stats to flat numbers. They also need to add in new sets for pvp to replace the old sets. Right now, there is practically no reason to fight over the flags in Cropsford/Bruma/Vlasterus.1 -
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✭YES-Players ask for sets like crimson to be disabled, because its bad for the game and they dont like it
-Zos disables all but 15 sets for a few weeks "To fix lag"
-haha jk its 6+ months
Like this is 100% zos's fault, not the players for simply asking for a simple change to have a better experience.
Removing every proc set from the game is not a simple change, and yes, most of the posts I can recall specifically called out "procs" as a whole rather than singling out any individual sets as problematic. Even with how this has all turned out, there are still players that are quite satisfied with the changes and the whopping 19 sets they can still utilize. Seriously, you personally may have wanted specific sets to be removed or changed, but the player base as a whole doesn't recognize those distinctions, and neither does ZOS; they look at overall sentiment and go based off of that. Specific becomes general, calls for any individual item or set to be nerfed are swept up and become one with the ball of outrage that sweeps over the forums clamoring "NERF, REMOVE" until it becomes an issue ZOS is willing to address, and when they do, they deal with the root of the issue. To everyone's detriment.5 -
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✭✭✭NOThe only thing that annoys me is the whing in every thread started on any other topic in this forum.
Oh I'm so sorry for wanting to use the stuff I paid and farmed for.
And on my current main I wasn't even using a meta build or actual sets that proc some nonsense. Still can't use my build because of everything ZOS classes as a proc because of spaghetti code and melting servers.
They disabled 90% of the sets. Anyone that likes this should just get their own no-proc server. Doesn't need to be big because when double AP is gone they go back to PvE or just playing 'PvP' one hour a day.7 -
erio✭✭✭✭✭NO-Players ask for sets like crimson to be disabled, because its bad for the game and they dont like it
-Zos disables all but 15 sets for a few weeks "To fix lag"
-haha jk its 6+ months
Like this is 100% zos's fault, not the players for simply asking for a simple change to have a better experience.
Removing every proc set from the game is not a simple change, and yes, most of the posts I can recall specifically called out "procs" as a whole rather than singling out any individual sets as problematic. Even with how this has all turned out, there are still players that are quite satisfied with the changes and the whopping 19 sets they can still utilize. Seriously, you personally may have wanted specific sets to be removed or changed, but the player base as a whole doesn't recognize those distinctions, and neither does ZOS; they look at overall sentiment and go based off of that. Specific becomes general, calls for any individual item or set to be nerfed are swept up and become one with the ball of outrage that sweeps over the forums clamoring "NERF, REMOVE" until it becomes an issue ZOS is willing to address, and when they do, they deal with the root of the issue. To everyone's detriment.
Yes procs. Aka stuff like crimson, sheer venom, etc. Not all the stuff zos disabled. Just because some people are happy about it doesnt mean it should be forced upon everyone for 6 months out of nowhere lmfao. Thats proof you didnt read my petition lmao. Why are you even on a forum if youre going to just tell people to stop talking about a game?2 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭If they made stat based procsets work id be happySeeing how people are crying over their carry sets today has made me realized eso is not the game for me.... considering how badly you all want to be carried by your gear sets again I think ima move on to another game that does not have players begging for carry sets
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✭✭✭YESGame play is better, imho. Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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✭✭✭If they made stat based procsets work id be happyI don't PVP in Cyro often, so I'm mostly just sitting here with popcorn. But the most important thing that they said (in my opinion) is that there were more players in Cyrodiil (not very clear, though, they were not sure about cause of slight performance decline, or that there actually were more people) meaning that majority of playrebase found proc-free environment healthier and more pleasant3 -
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✭✭✭NOSshadowSscale wrote: »Seeing how people are crying over their carry sets today has made me realized eso is not the game for me.... considering how badly you all want to be carried by your gear sets again I think ima move on to another game that does not have players begging for carry sets
K bye
It's really interesting how you consider being upset over having over 90% of your sets taken away for many months to be 'crying'. DLC's and chapters instantly lost their value for PvP players. I'm sure there are places where this is against the law, because it's such a huge change in a product. And it's not even for the reason they (said they) tested it.
It's because 'some people think its' nice. The proper reaction to that is making a proc and a non proc campaign for the next 6 months. Not take all 'proc' sets away.2 -
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✭NONopeMain: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭If they made stat based procsets work id be happySshadowSscale wrote: »Seeing how people are crying over their carry sets today has made me realized eso is not the game for me.... considering how badly you all want to be carried by your gear sets again I think ima move on to another game that does not have players begging for carry sets
K bye
It's really interesting how you consider being upset over having over 90% of your sets taken away for many months to be 'crying'. DLC's and chapters instantly lost their value for PvP players. I'm sure there are places where this is against the law, because it's such a huge change in a product. And it's not even for the reason they (said they) tested it.
It's because 'some people think its' nice. The proper reaction to that is making a proc and a non proc campaign for the next 6 months. Not take all 'proc' sets away.
Might as well make light attacks do 100k damage at base so that pvp is literally about who can light attack first..... oh wait with the proc sets its already about who light attacks first rip0 -
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✭✭✭✭I don't PVP in Cyro often, so I'm mostly just sitting here with popcorn. But the most important thing that they said (in my opinion) is that there were more players in Cyrodiil (not very clear, though, they were not sure about cause of slight performance decline, or that there actually were more people) meaning that majority of playrebase found proc-free environment healthier and more pleasant
Well, don't forget there was double AP on offer. Who knows how many people were there for the double AP as much as or more so than the no-proc ruleset?3 -
Scardan✭✭✭✭✭OP, your title is incorrect and pure desinformation. Proc sets still work in BGs and IC for the next 6 months.Let's be extremely precise in our use of terms.2
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kalunte✭✭✭✭✭YESOP, your title is incorrect and pure desinformation. Proc sets still work in BGs and IC for the next 6 months.
that is true, but i bet that we wont see much more proc-set lovers in them areas.
cyrodiil will be the go to, the place where ppl is, and if it give ZoS more Datas to figure out what's exactly messing with their code that ruin pvp experience to so many ppl, then it's a good thing.
i toss my coin that it's tied to movement and have little if not nothing to do with procs of all kind (since a single light attack is a proc at some point..) but yeah. look for more, find more, do less, i'm all with you ZoS
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PaddyVu✭✭✭✭YESYES ! Absolutely love it ! Now everyone i see can be oneshot with my techies build, all those below 35k hp will be oneshot in 0.1s no matter what
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✭If they made stat based procsets work id be happyThey are silencing the monster they created... and we are paying the price.
Oh well...🏳️🌈 Ride with Pride 🏳️🌈
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Maggusemm✭✭✭YESIt was very beneficial to limit PVP to some core sets. I dont know many players who dislike it. PVP is more skill based since then.1
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭NOI pay money for eso + dlc.
I farm sets - make it gold, waste my time - but they just disable it for 6 month.
I have no good words to ZOS to tell - only bad.
Just will not go next 6 mouths to Cyrodiil.
When you already think that nothing can be as bad as ZOS already do, they show that they are even more skilled in it and breake the bottom like in last boss in vKA and we fall even im more bottom each time.
Nothing good for 2 last years.
The same bugs, the same problems - target is broken, skills do not work.
Now we have TEST not on TEST server - but on LIVE server.
What for test server is ? If you test on live give test server for PVP - will be no lugs at all - lugs are becouse not enough server power.
But procs do not make lugs - lets just do game unplayable not for 1 month but for 1/2 year !!!
Why not - skills do not work / dethinks / target do not work correct for 2 years.
Lets turn off sets !!!
What can we do even more bad to players ?
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✭NO@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler here we got another poll, please explain how this decision was made?PC | EU | AD | "@Saidden"| 1700 CP|3 -
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✭NO1. Performance actually feels worse, lag can be terrible
2. A deal of variety removed from the pvp experience
3. We all have to use the same 2 sets according to our class for 6 months!
4. De-sync sorcs are now the new meta
5. Overland is boring for vets (too easy), my pve trial guilds fell apart, crown selling destroying trading and now this!
6. Thanks for removing the only thing that would have made me buy the new DLC, you have saved me some money - doh
Solution
Make a non-proc server and a proc serverEdited by martinhpb16_ESO on March 6, 2021 12:29PMAt least the spelling is difficult for you.
Hew's Bane*1
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