Resetting PvP to 2017, would be a better game than continuing down this path

Crom_CCCXVI

For at least 3 years everything this game has done has made it easier to be a PvP Troll

It started with CC Immunity, Stun Immunity, absurd Recovery, more skills to give you immunity, sets and rings to make sure you can't be stunned or immobilized. Now skills like Fossilize light up like once every 3 minutes, Talons, Mines etc are just for damage and ball groups can run through a doorway past an entire defending army and not a single guy will fall off their crown...

Next was all the specialized damage sets. Things like Shield Breaker, Elegant .. any set that could do really high damage against a specific build, even if it was worthless against everyone else... it if could kill whatever the Meta was supposed to be you nerfed it, sometimes just totally changing the entire purpose.

Then came the massive health META, the average health in Cyrodil going from 23-25k to 35k.... with 30+ resistance, massive heals, and just really hard to die.

and now Proc Sets, I get the Defensive Sets... don't really need Crimson, but very few people run damage procs as it is, the occasional Calaarunn, people aren't running Viper anymore or Mad Tinkerer... but like Burning Spellweave? or even Silks of the Sun.. stuff like that is now considered procs?

It's like the devs do not understand that a huge portion of your player base is about builds.. we don't all want to show up with the exact same armor set, exact same build, exact same stats and just try to "out play" the other guy-- some people do, sure---- but for a lot of us games like this are a puzzle. What set up can I create to beat the Meta? That used to be the group comp discussion before it became "ballgroup everyone spam Sap Essence or Pulsar with a couple healers"...

Have you not paid attention to other fantasy based MMORPG's that came and went down the same path? No one wants Generic, and most players won't admit it, but games that have too much balance fail.- The best memory of any gamer will be the overpowered silly stuff that came and went, look at Destiny 2's launch. I know no it's not the same genre, but no other game had such a player base and then lost it in the first 6 months not due to performance but because the game was dull.

Instead of taking everything away, maybe you should just go back to 2017 and put everything back. It would be a better game

Sangwyne

Despite the fact that PvP has a long way to go, I believe we've come even further. You can put on the rose-tinted glasses and pretend like everything was perfectly halcyon back in the day, but they had their issues then too. The player base is at an all time high, there's a ton of variety with regards to sets, builds and playstyles in the game, and the next two updates are bringing us a massive CP system rework and Companions, one of the longest running requested features. I do think the CP system still needs some refinement, especially with regards to the passives that provide sustain and durability (or rather, the lack thereof), and who knows in what shape Companions and Update 30 will arrive, but to want to revert everything that's happened over the last 4 years is to forget all the issues that have been addressed, and is never going to happen anyway. Instead, try looking to the future and suggesting changes that you would like to see made to the game. I firmly believe that splitting up PvE and PvP game modes is in our future, perhaps as soon as Update 31 when Procs make their return to Cyrodiil, and would solve many of the issues present in the meta today.

Ackwalan

Well they kind of reset the gear to 2014. That's close enough, isn't it?

SeaArcanist

didnt 2017 offer bleeds that bypassed armor, so tanks could just stack bleeds to deal damage?

SeaArcanist

oh and oblivion damage enchantment being like 2k? hehe ;p