People who play Argonians

Grandchamp1989

Are rarely jerks.

It's an observation I've seen.

If the Argonian player is also a healer the person is very likely a borderline saint.

To all you cool headed lizards out there

NotaDaedraWorshipper

May your travel down the river be filled with happiness and fortune, beeko.

Starlight_Whisper

This is not what I expected.

geonsocal

still, after years of playing an argonian - from time to time i just gotta put on a polymorph...let's just say - rockin' a tail is an acquired taste

coop500

That is totally not what I expected but I love it~

SshadowSscale

Was ready to defend my race with a battle to the death.... not what I expected lol

magnusthorek

Nice gesture, though, personally, I feel Argonians excessively polite

Ryuvain

Not a main argo player, but they're definitely my second favorite. May the moons light their path.

FrancisCrawford

Ryuvain wrote: »

Not a main argo player, but they're definitely my second favorite. May the moons light their path.

It seems you like tails.

Ryuvain

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ryuvain wrote: »

Not a main argo player, but they're definitely my second favorite. May the moons light their path.

It seems you like tails.

Lol.
I mean, it would be cool.

Mostly because I can play humans and elves in EVERY other game ever. Theyre so overdone imo. Also I am an animal lover, have a dog and thought about getting a cat. xD

Ringing_Nirnroot

🦎

Misty

Personally there is one thing I love about the Argonians. The way they speak.

Lugaldu

I always find it amusing when an Argonian says something like this, "Sure, I draw a lot of attention, probably because I'm so beautiful."

Vanya

Observation based on what? Opinion of dozen of players playing Argonian race? Any race can be a healer,also you may be lucky only. It makes no sense if person plays specific race may or may not be what you implied, the word.

I play Altmer does that make me more of them "lore-wise" or attitude. Generally players who are healers tend to be more desirable to many.

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Millions plays Elder Scrolls Online, completely random and irrelevant if Player A plays Nord,Altmer,Argonian or Player B can be Orc and all of them could be as same world you provided" So if you met few cool Argonians does not mean its true ,far from it.

amm7sb14_ESO

I play an Argonian as my 6th alt lol, so maybe I'm still a low level jerk haha.

But the build is a semi-off healer (when not busy blowing himself up with a combination Sated Frenzy / Phoenix set) so maybe I'm a low level jerk / semi-saint.

Lugaldu

Vanya wrote: »

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Why does someone always have to try to find the maggot in the apple?

Kurat

Argonians are cool and I main one myself. But to day that healers are saints lol. I would call pug healers leeches rather. Dungeons don't even need a healer but alot of them act like they are essential and entitled. They often bail from group if dps is not the greatest and dont even contribute. Pug healers mostly just spam rapid regen/mutagen and heavy attack. And if there's nothing to heal then they just stand there and comment later how slow dps was lmao. Most of them dont even have must have set like SPC/Olo, and dont give orbs or combat prayer. 9 out of 10 vet dlc dungeons healers are just leeches getting free carries. Saints my ***

goldenarcher1

https://youtu.be/9BH8I7Y5Ykk

KovalskyNestor

Maybe it's bad luck, but my experience was quite the opposite. The most toxic and "elitist" in pugs were argonians, especially tanks. I have PTSD when I see anyone playing argonian in my group.

Tommy_The_Gun

What you have just said is very heart-warming. Not often you see something like this. May your's river of live always have a warm and safe current. Safe travels, beeko.

KovalskyNestor wrote: »

Maybe it's bad luck, but my experience was quite the opposite. The most toxic and "elitist" in pugs were argonians, especially tanks. I have PTSD when I see anyone playing argonian in my group.

Sorry to hear that. It may have been a bad luck, or maybe you were pug-ing some harder dungeon that is more frustrating ?

Anyway, my experience is very similar to what OP have said. I can not recall a player (that was Argonian) who was mean or toxic. Maybe once or twice in Cyro PvP zone. There were some jokers on the chat, but that is about it. As for the dungeons, from my experience, most of the time it is DPS (not a rule, just "statistically") that tend to be "elitist". Sometimes they even mock others for not remembering the mechanics, for dying etc.

Ryuvain

Lugaldu wrote: »

Vanya wrote: »

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Why does someone always have to try to find the maggot in the apple?

Bet nothing wouldve been said if this thread was about altmer. Just saying.

AcadianPaladin

Stay moist.

FantasticFreddie

I have 6 Argonian healers/tanks, I erect the spine of solidarity with you, my friend.

Cirantille

They tend to be humble and friendly, approachable

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

Lugaldu wrote: »

Vanya wrote: »

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Why does someone always have to try to find the maggot in the apple?

There will always be those people my friend. Just human nature that we are forced to live with. Just sad that an OP without any malicious intentions can't survive before one want to add malice

coop500

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

Vanya wrote: »

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Why does someone always have to try to find the maggot in the apple?

There will always be those people my friend. Just human nature that we are forced to live with. Just sad that an OP without any malicious intentions can't survive before one want to add malice

Yeah... these forums especially have an issue with people attacking each other for no real reason

SidraWillowsky

Vanya wrote: »

Observation based on what? Opinion of dozen of players playing Argonian race? Any race can be a healer,also you may be lucky only. It makes no sense if person plays specific race may or may not be what you implied, the word.

I play Altmer does that make me more of them "lore-wise" or attitude. Generally players who are healers tend to be more desirable to many.

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Millions plays Elder Scrolls Online, completely random and irrelevant if Player A plays Nord,Altmer,Argonian or Player B can be Orc and all of them could be as same world you provided" So if you met few cool Argonians does not mean its true ,far from it.

No, it's actually fascinating, I think. A huge body of research exists that examines racism in fantasy games, particularly in MMOs and how racism is present in role playing. I've only skimmed it, but the majority of what I've seen usually focuses on white and Black avatars and how anti-Black racism is perpetuated even in fantasy RP.

I was trying to research whether RPing someone racist against Argonians might be more likely to be racist in general. It's a much "safer" type of fantasy racism because they're, well.... lizard people. There exists already a race that's closer to actual Black people (the most frequent target of even fantasy racism): Redguards. I don't know that I've seen any racism targeting them in the game.

What interests me, then, is that in TES there's an interesting structure: Argonians, the most oft-discriminated race in-universe and least favorite among real players. Then you've got the Redguards... if you've played Morrowind and looked at their concept art and original portrayal, they were meant to mirror Black people. Players may view them as more Arab/Saudi now, but even with that, their minority status in the real-world still stands. However you look at it, they seem pretty ignored (which in and or itself may signal an issue, but that's a different topic) by players. We're thus got a universe where the primary targets of racism are those from a race that doesn't exist in the real world, even when that race actually exists in the game universe.

Maybe it's less interesting or meaningful than I think it is. It adds an interesting structure in terms of fantasy racism. To your point, I think there's something to be said about players who actively seek out the most oppressed race and choose to play them. They are wildly unpopular in-universe, and if you go to Stonefalls on any given day, there's a good chance that someone in zone chat will be professing their hatred of them. I'd assume they might tend to be more compassionate (the ones who choose to play them b/c of this, not those who choose them b/c they're good healers). The people I know who play them like this are all awesome and thoughtful people, but my sample is pretty small and it may just be that I tend to seek out this kind of person anyway.

Or maybe I'm just an armchair psychologist who spends too much time on social justice Twitter...

coop500

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Vanya wrote: »

Observation based on what? Opinion of dozen of players playing Argonian race? Any race can be a healer,also you may be lucky only. It makes no sense if person plays specific race may or may not be what you implied, the word.

I play Altmer does that make me more of them "lore-wise" or attitude. Generally players who are healers tend to be more desirable to many.

I disagree respectfully for me there I see no logic in thread.

Millions plays Elder Scrolls Online, completely random and irrelevant if Player A plays Nord,Altmer,Argonian or Player B can be Orc and all of them could be as same world you provided" So if you met few cool Argonians does not mean its true ,far from it.

No, it's actually fascinating, I think. A huge body of research exists that examines racism in fantasy games, particularly in MMOs and how racism perpetuates in role playing. I've only skimmed it, but the majority of what I've seen usually focuses on white and Black avatars and how racism is perpetuated in RP.

I was trying to research whether RPing someone racist against Argonians might be more likely to be racist in general. It's a much "safer" type of fantasy racism because they're, well.... lizard people. There exists already a race that's closer to actual Black people (the most frequent target of even fantasy racism): Redguards. I don't know that I've seen any racism targeting them in the game.

What interests me, then, is that in TES there's an interesting structure: Argonians, the most oft-discriminated race in-universe and least favorite among real players. Then you've got the Redguards... if you've played Morrowind and looked at their concept art and original portrayal, they were meant to mirror Black people. Players may view them as more Arab/Saudi now, but even with that, their minority status in the real-world still stands. However you look at it, they seem pretty ignored (which in and or itself may signal an issue, but that's a different topic) by players. We're thus got a universe where the primary targets of racism are those from a race that doesn't exist in the real world, even when that race actually exists in the game universe.

Maybe it's less interesting or meaningful than I think it is. It adds an interesting structure in terms of fantasy racism. To your point, I think there's something to be said about players who actively seek out the most oppressed race and choose to play them. They are wildly unpopular in-universe, and if you go to Stonefalls on any given day, there's a good chance that someone in zone chat will be professing their hatred of them. I'd assume they might tend to be more compassionate (the ones who choose to play them b/c of this, not those who choose them b/c they're good healers). The people I know who play them like this are all awesome and thoughtful people, but my sample is pretty small and it may just be that I tend to seek out this kind of person anyway.

Or maybe I'm just an armchair psychologist who spends too much time on social justice Twitter...

I think this is quite correct, frankly I am a bit wary of people who roleplay as racist all the time. IMO it means they're probably a jerk IRL/OOC too. Maybe not actively racist, but still unpleasant to be around.

ArchMikem

May you find calm waters as you partake in my Heals, friend.

asuitandtyb14_ESO

I really want to play an Argonian because it is my favorite race. I just can’t get past how frustrating it is to see its tail clipping through the Argonian kilts.

Cirantille

The first person who took me and my two noob friends to a vet dungeon and taught us was an Argonian tank :') *nostalgia kicks in*