Undaunted Quests

TheForFeeF

Is there a reason that the Delve daily quest doesn't give you a key as well? It doesn't make sense that an Undaunted quest doesn't give you one of the main reasons to do Undaunted quests.

On top of that, how comes there isn't an Undaunted Public Dungeon quest?

I can't really think of any reason to not have a public dungeon daily, as well as both give you 1 key each as a reward.

joerginger

The public dungeon daily can be found in the Mages Guild.

Edit: Mixed up the Fighters Guild and the Mages Guild.

GreenHere

TheForFeeF wrote: »

Is there a reason that the Delve daily quest doesn't give you a key as well? It doesn't make sense that an Undaunted quest doesn't give you one of the main reasons to do Undaunted quests.

On top of that, how comes there isn't an Undaunted Public Dungeon quest?

I can't really think of any reason to not have a public dungeon daily, as well as both give you 1 key each as a reward.

The most likely reason is because they need to incentivize people to run Dungeons and fill out the LFG roster. Ain't nobody joining queues for Delves.


I think the better question is, "Why don't the Undaunted challenge me to go into Trials for 4 keys (and 6 for vet, 8 for HM)? I thought these guys were supposed to be badasses that took on the scariest foes in the land!" It always seemed weirder to me that the Undaunted draw the line at 4-man activities, but I guess I never gave it much attention either. Keys are way less valuable than they used to be, so... meh.

Nairinhe

TheForFeeF wrote: »

Is there a reason that the Delve daily quest doesn't give you a key as well? It doesn't make sense that an Undaunted quest doesn't give you one of the main reasons to do Undaunted quests.

On top of that, how comes there isn't an Undaunted Public Dungeon quest?

I can't really think of any reason to not have a public dungeon daily, as well as both give you 1 key each as a reward.

Judging how horrible are delves and public dungeons where leads drop, I doubt it's a good idea to give more incentive to farm there.
But biggest reason, I believe, is that neither is challenging. OK, FG1 isn't challenging too after a while, but most of the group dungeons are. So content that is a total faceroll solo even for your grandma shouldn't give you same rewards as content that requires group effort.
Bolgrul's dailies give Undaunted reputation and that's enough.

Mik195

joerginger wrote: »

The public dungeon daily can be found in the Fighters Guild.

The public dungeons quest is in Mage Guild. Fighters Guild has dolmans.

joerginger

Mik195 wrote: »

joerginger wrote: »

The public dungeon daily can be found in the Fighters Guild.

The public dungeons quest is in Mage Guild. Fighters Guild has dolmans.

Thanks for the correction, fixed.

TheForFeeF

GreenHere wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

Is there a reason that the Delve daily quest doesn't give you a key as well? It doesn't make sense that an Undaunted quest doesn't give you one of the main reasons to do Undaunted quests.

On top of that, how comes there isn't an Undaunted Public Dungeon quest?

I can't really think of any reason to not have a public dungeon daily, as well as both give you 1 key each as a reward.

The most likely reason is because they need to incentivize people to run Dungeons and fill out the LFG roster. Ain't nobody joining queues for Delves.


I think the better question is, "Why don't the Undaunted challenge me to go into Trials for 4 keys (and 6 for vet, 8 for HM)? I thought these guys were supposed to be badasses that took on the scariest foes in the land!" It always seemed weirder to me that the Undaunted draw the line at 4-man activities, but I guess I never gave it much attention either. Keys are way less valuable than they used to be, so... meh.

That is a good point - there should be a Trial Daily too. The trial daily should give you special undaunted keys that allow you to get perfected versions of the shoulders/helms.

As far as I remember, the Undaunted are people who take on delves and dungeons etc etc - so why does it not include public dungeons? I get that the public dungeon daily is with the Mages guild - but that doesn't make any sense at all. It is much more fitting to be with the Undaunted.

I don't think giving 1 key to each delve and public dungeon daily would stop the LFG from filling out. It just gives more people chances to get more keys... If you don't have the DLC, the minimum keys you can get daily would be 4, maximum would be 6 - if you have DLC, 5 and 8. And that is only if you do it on 1 character.

TheForFeeF

Nairinhe wrote: »

TheForFeeF wrote: »

Is there a reason that the Delve daily quest doesn't give you a key as well? It doesn't make sense that an Undaunted quest doesn't give you one of the main reasons to do Undaunted quests.

On top of that, how comes there isn't an Undaunted Public Dungeon quest?

I can't really think of any reason to not have a public dungeon daily, as well as both give you 1 key each as a reward.

Judging how horrible are delves and public dungeons where leads drop, I doubt it's a good idea to give more incentive to farm there.
But biggest reason, I believe, is that neither is challenging. OK, FG1 isn't challenging too after a while, but most of the group dungeons are. So content that is a total faceroll solo even for your grandma shouldn't give you same rewards as content that requires group effort.
Bolgrul's dailies give Undaunted reputation and that's enough.

Just because it isn't challenging for you, doesn't mean it isn't challenging for others.

I don't think it is a bad thing to allow the playerbase to get more keys daily.

I was having an interesting discussion with a friend who primarily plays wow and focuses on raid content. For him, it is a massive time sink that basically feels neverending. However, getting the correct equipment to raid at your maximum potential, and the amount of equipment that is viable, is super accessible in ESO, even for just the casual player. ESO endgame actually allows you to have a life outside of ESO. Making keys easier to get would help this.

AcadianPaladin

As others have said, I figure the no key is due to the lower level of challenge. Getting a nice shot of undaunted rep to raise the skill line is very good though. Most of my characters got 90% of their undaunted leveling done slowly by doing a delve a day for Bolgrul. Only after they're all grown up do they get into soloing some of the easier pledges.

As others have also said, the Mages Guild has a good program of dailies involving public dungeons that allow you to level up the MG skill line regardless of how many lore books you find. Similar situation with Fighters Guild and dolmens.

What I would like to to see is another undaunted quest giver who gives out dailies for alliance zone WBs. To me that is much better than DLC WB dailies because I can happily solo most of the alliance zone WBs.