Frostvault needs worked on

madman65

Tanking that placed is tough, the trolls were hitting me from 12-15 meters. Got as far as the Vault Protector and the lasers were hitting us through the shield. So that was the stopping point

Vildebill

It's being nerfed a lot next patch.

magnusthorek

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

tsaescishoeshiner

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The original mech is a bit too much of a total pugkiller and too frequently buggy to defend, but I did enjoy doing it smoothly with a group who could execute it well. It's really cool and unique, but punishing after the already difficult goblin boss.

Two of the changes on PTS—making the Centurion walk to the center before starting the lasers, and making the laser direction more visible—would have been sufficient without the other changes—making the laser dodge/jumpable 🙄 and making the adds stunnable. IMO

caperb

Frostvault is ok, nothing really dangerous when you learn the mechanics and have enough DPS in your group.

It even getting nerfed next patch, another fun dungeon removed from the game

FangOfTheTwoMoons

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

zvavi

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The original mech is a bit too much of a total pugkiller and too frequently buggy to defend, but I did enjoy doing it smoothly with a group who could execute it well. It's really cool and unique, but punishing after the already difficult goblin boss.

Two of the changes on PTS—making the Centurion walk to the center before starting the lasers, and making the laser direction more visible—would have been sufficient without the other changes—making the laser dodge/jumpable 🙄 and making the adds stunnable. IMO

You forgot no more AoE from spheres and slower lasers. The boss got 5 major nerfs total, not 3.

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

And that sometimes it would bug and not kill players that run through it (not fixed on the PTS btw). God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

Malkiv

I don't like that FV is one of the dungeons getting a nerf. I don't agree with the complaints about FV, especially since survivability and damage are at an all-time high, and accessible to anyone CP160+. But my opinion doesn't matter, as it appears most people are having an issue clearing FV, and I've already cleared that content long ago.

I simply do not like the idea of nerfing content to appeal to a less-enthusiastic segment.

mobicera

I enjoy frostvault
If you have a problem tanking it, it's not the dungeon, its you.
Try and improve its actually not that bad.
The constant nerfs to these dungeons is just disheartening.

Mettaricana

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

God forbid the server lag would pay attention to my position.

FangOfTheTwoMoons

Mettaricana wrote: »

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

God forbid the server lag would pay attention to my position.

I'm calling bs on that. Unless you have ridiculous ping, theres no way you're lagging that bad to die to lasers in FV.

I didn't know FV took place in prime time cyrodiil lol

zvavi

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

God forbid the server lag would pay attention to my position.

I'm calling bs on that. Unless you have ridiculous ping, theres no way you're lagging that bad to die to lasers in FV.

I didn't know FV took place in prime time cyrodiil lol

Actually if the big guy is walking before sitting down many times his server position is not corresponding with client position.

Malkiv

zvavi wrote: »

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

God forbid the server lag would pay attention to my position.

I'm calling bs on that. Unless you have ridiculous ping, theres no way you're lagging that bad to die to lasers in FV.

I didn't know FV took place in prime time cyrodiil lol

Actually if the big guy is walking before sitting down many times his server position is not corresponding with client position.

There's definitely desync under some circumstances, but a lot of people claim "lag" kills them when they couldn't get behind the shield fast enough. I was in a premade no-death run where one of the DPS reset us 4 times because he wasn't paying attention to laser position, and kept saying it was "lag".

Starlight_Whisper

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I'm just glad we can dodge roll through lasers on Centurion boss. The original mech is ridiculous #changemymind

The only thing bad about the original mech was that it could bug through the boss's barrier. It was a completely fair mech otherwise. God forbid players actually have to pay attention to positioning in this game lol.

This so much ^

B0SSzombie

Frostvault was the first Dungeon I ever tanked on Vet (I wanted that spider), and looking back, that laser boss could definitely use the adjustments it's getting.

The changes to the lasers and being able to pull adds to you will make that fight way more reasonable.

It's not like it makes the Dungeon that much easier anyway. People will still easily wipe to the 2nd or 4th bosses if they don't follow the mechanics.

Hell, most of the PUGs I ran with when Wrathstone first came out couldn't even get past the Troll Boss since they never interrupted his attack.

Magdalina

Frostvault is being nerfed a lot next patch - unnecessary so imo. It's not a bad thing that a dungeon actually has mechs on non-last bosses. Vault Protector's only real issue was the bug it got occasionally when it'd still hit you through boss - and evidently their solution to it was to just destroy that mech entirely -.- Imo it's an awesome mech, sure it might take some time to learn but there's nothing impossible about it. I've gotten pugs through there just fine - long as they were willing to pay attention and had some dps (I think lowest I managed to drag through was ~30k group dps but that was rough).

I'm also not entirely sure what you mean by trolls - the trash packs? But if you were tanking, why'd you be 15 m away from trash trolls?

madman65

Yeah the trash trolls with the spiked gauntlets, I have combat alerts and it notify me of the hit getting charged. On the first run I would dodge the hit and everything was fine so on the next trash trolls I decided to double up and grabbed 2 Trolls. I dodge rolled one and the other was 15 meter away and boom. I thought it was a glitch until I was rezzed then I grabbed just 1 troll , saw the charge then roll dodge out 12-15 meters again and it happened again. If i`m correct, all melee is 7 meters. Surely if that`s true then it`s a problem. Also, on the lasers you have to wait to see which side is going to be open correct. Then you just stay on that side for the rest of the duration. The thing is, we were standing beside the protected side and it still got through. There might have been a small area to stand in but gamers were going down and the fact that we had to rez and fight , impossible with all that was going on.

Jayroo

Typically (for me anyways) dungeons seem to hold a stereotype of having an easy last boss with an extremely hard boss leading up to it, or a difficult final boss with medium/hard difficulty bosses scattered throughout.