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Shimmerene Soiree Gown Animation Glitch
bellanca6561n
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The new Shimmerene Soiree Gown has a comically bad glitch in its animation.
It looks great at first….so long as you’re standing still that is…
…and is one of the very few examples of a costume that actually handles decolletage well, rather than presenting an awkward divot in the center of a female character’s chest.
Sadly, however, it’s unusable due to how the deformable mesh of the lower part of the gown is animated. It flies up as if by an explosion of air beneath it. It’s like the famous blast of air from the subway grating up Marilyn Monroe’s dress in The Seven Year Itch, except it’s not sexy but ludicrous.
Unfortunately, this cannot be seen in preview as the character can only stand still.
It looks great at first….so long as you’re standing still that is…
…and is one of the very few examples of a costume that actually handles decolletage well, rather than presenting an awkward divot in the center of a female character’s chest.
Sadly, however, it’s unusable due to how the deformable mesh of the lower part of the gown is animated. It flies up as if by an explosion of air beneath it. It’s like the famous blast of air from the subway grating up Marilyn Monroe’s dress in The Seven Year Itch, except it’s not sexy but ludicrous.
Unfortunately, this cannot be seen in preview as the character can only stand still.
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Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Now I need to go back and check how the Alinor Dancing Dress looks in motion...
Edit: The main difference that I see is the underside/inside of the dress being black instead of matching the dress as it does for the Alinor Dancing Dress. It may also be kicked up a bit higher, which exacerbates the problem.Edited by Araneae6537 on February 11, 2021 9:56PM0 -
Lephrel✭✭✭✭✭Uff that looks awful. However, I don't see away around it - they're never going to add a custom running animation (i.e. hitching up the dress as shown below) and altering the appearance would probably upset the people who like the current look and already got the dress.
Edited by Lephrel on February 11, 2021 7:55PM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭How does this compare to the way ankle-length light armor Robes/skirts work?
edit: hmm, or any of the looted/stolen 'civilian' clothes dresses.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on February 11, 2021 7:48PM2 -
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✭Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
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✭✭✭✭✭bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
I still love the dress, personally, and from what I’ve seen, many others feel the same, so I’m glad it was released. I do wish that it looked different while running (like the Alinor Dancing Dress at least), I figure I should only be promenading or dancing in such a dress anyway.
If you regret your purchase since you weren’t able to preview running, you can probably get a refund if you submit a support ticket. Edited by Araneae6537 on February 11, 2021 8:55PM2 -
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bellanca6561n✭✭✭✭✭
✭Araneae6537 wrote: »bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
I still love the dress, personally, and from what I’ve seen, many others feel the same, so I’m glad it was released. I do wish that it looked different while running (like the Alinor Dancing Dress at least), I figure I should only be promenading or dancing in such a dress anyway. If you regret your purchase since you weren’t able to preview running, you can probably get a refund if you submit a support ticket.
Oh, I'm sure many will indeed like the dress. Plus the grab your skirts thing might look good for running but what if you're fighting in it?
I did indeed submit a ticket. Nope, no offer of a refund
No matter. There are only two things I'm interested in doing in ESO: fashion and Cyrodiil. And after they announced that Cyrodiil was going into beta yet again, I canceled my Plus. No point in leaving the game with crowns on your account
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✭Oh, and the main reason I bought it was due to the persistence of the very strange name everyone seems to use for coordinated PvP: ball group. No such term with an implied negative connotation exists for organized Trials groups.
So, I figured if I was going to play in a ball group, might as well wear a ball gown while doing so
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✭✭✭✭✭bellanca6561n wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
I still love the dress, personally, and from what I’ve seen, many others feel the same, so I’m glad it was released. I do wish that it looked different while running (like the Alinor Dancing Dress at least), I figure I should only be promenading or dancing in such a dress anyway. If you regret your purchase since you weren’t able to preview running, you can probably get a refund if you submit a support ticket.
Oh, I'm sure many will indeed like the dress. Plus the grab your skirts thing might look good for running but what if you're fighting in it?
I did indeed submit a ticket. Nope, no offer of a refund
No matter. There are only two things I'm interested in doing in ESO: fashion and Cyrodiil. And after they announced that Cyrodiil was going into beta yet again, I canceled my Plus. No point in leaving the game with crowns on your account
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Interesting and it matches my observations.Uff that looks awful. However, I don't see away around it - they're never going to add a custom running animation (i.e. hitching up the dress as shown below) and altering the appearance would probably upset the people who like the current look and already got the dress.
Basic rigging work well enough with long narrow dresses but it fails with wide ones as the bottom is so large and is exposed then running. Assume an wide dress is more of an problem walking stairs or running to as long as the dress is not an hobble skirt. Very limited experience as male but for rigging this looks true. And yes rigging will stretch the center part of the dress a lot. Now you can animate clothes but this is hard on the client if weak.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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Lephrel✭✭✭✭✭bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
Yeah, I don't really get it either. ZOS certainly aren't known for their sloppy designs and unfinished products, it's not like we have abysmal performance and nearly every item of clothing has clipping issues. If we were talking about a lesser game developer, I'd say they were pushing out subpar cosmetics and hoping most people would buy them in the 1 week availability windows, before anyone noticed the poor quality. But this is Zeni we are talking about, the name is synonymous with quality, integrity and respect for the playerbase.
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✭✭That's what long dresses normally look like running though. It's terrible, but I'm not seeing the "comically bad glitch" that's specific to this dress.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭bellanca6561n wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
I still love the dress, personally, and from what I’ve seen, many others feel the same, so I’m glad it was released. I do wish that it looked different while running (like the Alinor Dancing Dress at least), I figure I should only be promenading or dancing in such a dress anyway. If you regret your purchase since you weren’t able to preview running, you can probably get a refund if you submit a support ticket.
Oh, I'm sure many will indeed like the dress. Plus the grab your skirts thing might look good for running but what if you're fighting in it?
I did indeed submit a ticket. Nope, no offer of a refund
No matter. There are only two things I'm interested in doing in ESO: fashion and Cyrodiil. And after they announced that Cyrodiil was going into beta yet again, I canceled my Plus. No point in leaving the game with crowns on your account
Did you do so from the website rather than in-game? I’ve always received great service going through the website and if you’re in the U.S., the text option is super fast!1 -
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✭Araneae6537 wrote: »bellanca6561n wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »bellanca6561n wrote: »Fair points, all. It goes to the limitations of the game itself. Nonetheless, the developers are more aware than we are of those limitations. So, why create and release a costume that serves to rub our noses in it?
I still love the dress, personally, and from what I’ve seen, many others feel the same, so I’m glad it was released. I do wish that it looked different while running (like the Alinor Dancing Dress at least), I figure I should only be promenading or dancing in such a dress anyway. If you regret your purchase since you weren’t able to preview running, you can probably get a refund if you submit a support ticket.
Oh, I'm sure many will indeed like the dress. Plus the grab your skirts thing might look good for running but what if you're fighting in it?
I did indeed submit a ticket. Nope, no offer of a refund
No matter. There are only two things I'm interested in doing in ESO: fashion and Cyrodiil. And after they announced that Cyrodiil was going into beta yet again, I canceled my Plus. No point in leaving the game with crowns on your account
Did you do so from the website rather than in-game? I’ve always received great service going through the website and if you’re in the U.S., the text option is super fast!
Oh yes, I went through the website and I've received some marvelous service over the years since the game launched. Not so in this specific case, but I wasn't looking for a refund really.That's what long dresses normally look like running though. It's terrible, but I'm not seeing the "comically bad glitch" that's specific to this dress.
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✭✭✭✭✭The walking animation looks reasonable, like walking in a mermaid-style gown - that type of dress constrains movement in its own way.
The running animation... My Vestige must be extremely graceful not to trip and land flat on her face! 1 -
bluelights400✭✭✭This is pretty much how all long dresses respond to running. I personally do not see an issue as I wear dresses 24/7 in ESOi love borzois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!4 -
Plajhengenuin✭✭✭Yeah, unfortunately it's the combination of not so stellar standard fabric animation in ESO and very wide hemline of this dress, that exuberates this problem. Sadly, it's not a glitch and I doubt anything can be done about it.0 -
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✭bluelights400 wrote: »This is pretty much how all long dresses respond to running. I personally do not see an issue as I wear dresses 24/7 in ESO
As do many of my characters as well. Many of them work pretty well. For example, the Jarl's gown...
Ancestral Homage dress...
The Tea Fete....
They may not look wholly realistic when the character is walking or running, but you don't see cloth flying around.
The difference is that those other dresses observe what Plajhengenuin noted...Plajhengenuin wrote: »Yeah, unfortunately it's the combination of not so stellar standard fabric animation in ESO and very wide hemline of this dress, that exuberates this problem. Sadly, it's not a glitch and I doubt anything can be done about it.
Why go with that wide, almost Victorian hoop skirt look if it brings out the flaws in your fabric animations?3
