I am 1300CP and it will take me 3 YEARS to 2000CP !?!?

Ruder

HEY ZOS, I`M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED With your CP Rework


Currently I`m 1300CP however after next patch I`ll need approx 2000 CP to unlock all the needed perks for combat.

The experience needed from 1300CP to 2000CP is 750 MILIONS

I am PVP Player ONLY, I DO NOT GRIND > therefore my average experience PER DAY IS ARROUND 800,000

SO AT THIS RATE I`ll NEED 930+ days to reach 2000 CP in order to have fully developed character for CP PVP



[snip]

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%, THIS IS LUDACRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

[edited for rude comments]

Artemis_X_

Similar issue for lower cps, 600cp now and only 210 from effectively capping out. In a few weeks that end thst was in sight becomes 3000cp more not 210. Even if the effective cap maximising the smallest number of cp passives and slottable skills the gulf will soon be enormous

Sgrug

Ruder wrote: »

HEY ZOS, I`M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED With your CP Rework


Currently I`m 1300CP however after next patch I`ll need approx 2000 CP to unlock all the needed perks for combat.

The experience needed from 1300CP to 2000CP is 750 MILIONS

I am PVP Player ONLY, I DO NOT GRIND > therefore my average experience PER DAY IS ARROUND 800,000

SO AT THIS RATE I`ll NEED 930+ days to reach 2000 CP in order to have fully developed character for CP PVP



[snip]

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%, THIS IS LUDACRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Seriously, what is the hurry? CP 2.0 is amazing, I for one am excited for all the opportunity to grow and earn CP

Orion_89

Speed of exp gaining will double after release of new CP system, so it will take 1,5 years for you. Is it long? Not for me at least. I'm 1000 CP now and glad, that there will be a space to grow for years. By the way, every one around you will be in the same situation.

Grey_Wanderer

Actually, this is Ludacris. And it's 3600.

Grey_Wanderer

Drat, image didn't post.

TwinLamps

Now imagine being me.
And having a me type of issue.
And having 5 accounts.
And only one account is 1360 CP while rest are 600ish nad 360ish.
On EU server.
And on NA my main is barely over 700 cp, while rest are 160.

So.
Should I
a) Uninstall
b) Go Minecraft
c) Go Sudoku
d) Play noCP

Jierdanit

Sgrug wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

HEY ZOS, I`M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED With your CP Rework


Currently I`m 1300CP however after next patch I`ll need approx 2000 CP to unlock all the needed perks for combat.

The experience needed from 1300CP to 2000CP is 750 MILIONS

I am PVP Player ONLY, I DO NOT GRIND > therefore my average experience PER DAY IS ARROUND 800,000

SO AT THIS RATE I`ll NEED 930+ days to reach 2000 CP in order to have fully developed character for CP PVP



[snip]

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%, THIS IS LUDACRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Seriously, what is the hurry? CP 2.0 is amazing, I for one am excited for all the opportunity to grow and earn CP

because now you are going to need about (i think) 2.6k CP to effectively maximise your possible performance in PvP.
And in PvP you are directly playing against other players who could have those CP amounts, so unless you farm these CP too youre definitely going to be at a disadvantage just because they have more CP than you, and it would take you (as @Ruder said) several years to get to the same CP without just going for grinding XP for a very long time.

And i doubt a lot of players are into grinding for CP for years just to be "competitive" with other players again.

Izay

Game doesn't revolve around 1 game mode.

ghost_bg_ESO

i don't care about the CP number, more frustrating will be if my characters become "squishy" compared to now and i'm required to fast grind just to become at that same power level, definitely will make me to rethink if i actually want to... as in the same time also are coming cryt nerfs and armor changes.

mobicera

Izay wrote: »

Game doesn't revolve around 1 game mode.

Actually everyone but casual questers got hurt with this update.
Every single person who wanted to just pvp or just do dungeons and trials are pretty much slapped in the face with this cp change.
I will not grind xp, no one I know will grind xp to bluescreen in the same content we have been in for years.
This isn't ok...

JanTanhide

ghost_bg_ESO wrote: »

i don't care about the CP number, more frustrating will be if my characters become "squishy" compared to now and i'm required to fast grind just to become at that same power level, definitely will make me to rethink if i actually want to... as in the same time also are coming cryt nerfs and armor changes.

I had similar concerns. I hopped on the PTS and tested my Tanks and one DPS utilizing the new CP system. I had no issues at all and it seems my characters are just as strong, if not stronger, than currently on Live server.

Now yesterday when the PTS was loaded with the EU player base ZOS announced some CP changes. I've looked at them on the PTS but haven't tested them since now I have to make an EU character and test it. I did make the EU character but have not had time to test the new CP changes with it.

I think overall we will do fine. I do like the new CP system.

Gythral

Izay wrote: »

Game doesn't revolve around 1 game mode.

You sure????

I though it revolved around the LAG/CTD mode

Yuffie91

Artemis_X_ wrote: »

Similar issue for lower cps, 600cp now and only 210 from effectively capping out. In a few weeks that end thst was in sight becomes 3000cp more not 210. Even if the effective cap maximising the smallest number of cp passives and slottable skills the gulf will soon be enormous

Yup same here..560 cp atm and already feels it's going slow x.x I was leaving lvling alts til I hit 810 but if they raise that..guess I shall stick to my magden then

Sgrug

Jierdanit wrote: »

Sgrug wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

HEY ZOS, I`M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED With your CP Rework


Currently I`m 1300CP however after next patch I`ll need approx 2000 CP to unlock all the needed perks for combat.

The experience needed from 1300CP to 2000CP is 750 MILIONS

I am PVP Player ONLY, I DO NOT GRIND > therefore my average experience PER DAY IS ARROUND 800,000

SO AT THIS RATE I`ll NEED 930+ days to reach 2000 CP in order to have fully developed character for CP PVP



[snip]

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%, THIS IS LUDACRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Seriously, what is the hurry? CP 2.0 is amazing, I for one am excited for all the opportunity to grow and earn CP

because now you are going to need about (i think) 2.6k CP to effectively maximise your possible performance in PvP.
And in PvP you are directly playing against other players who could have those CP amounts, so unless you farm these CP too youre definitely going to be at a disadvantage just because they have more CP than you, and it would take you (as @Ruder said) several years to get to the same CP without just going for grinding XP for a very long time.

And i doubt a lot of players are into grinding for CP for years just to be "competitive" with other players again.

Funny, I read so many posts about how skilled PvP players are and now I see a lot of posts about CP as if the only thing that makes a player good in PvP is CP. It kind of makes one's head spin.

Also, the whole thing of 2600 CP for min/max has been addressed, any post that actually has looked at the data puts the min/max number between 1400 to 1800. That is way less than 2600. Regardless it is min/max, min/max does not have a significant impact on overall play, especially PvP and even more so if PvP truly is more about skill (which it is usually outside of some stupid op builds)

Yuffie91

TwinLamps wrote: »

Now imagine being me.
And having a me type of issue.
And having 5 accounts.
And only one account is 1360 CP while rest are 600ish nad 360ish.
On EU server.
And on NA my main is barely over 700 cp, while rest are 160.

So.
Should I
a) Uninstall
b) Go Minecraft
c) Go Sudoku
d) Play noCP

What do you even do with 5 accounts?

TwinLamps

Sgrug wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Sgrug wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

HEY ZOS, I`M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED With your CP Rework


Currently I`m 1300CP however after next patch I`ll need approx 2000 CP to unlock all the needed perks for combat.

The experience needed from 1300CP to 2000CP is 750 MILIONS

I am PVP Player ONLY, I DO NOT GRIND > therefore my average experience PER DAY IS ARROUND 800,000

SO AT THIS RATE I`ll NEED 930+ days to reach 2000 CP in order to have fully developed character for CP PVP



ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GOD DEAMN MINDS? ????????????????

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%, THIS IS LUDACRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Seriously, what is the hurry? CP 2.0 is amazing, I for one am excited for all the opportunity to grow and earn CP

because now you are going to need about (i think) 2.6k CP to effectively maximise your possible performance in PvP.
And in PvP you are directly playing against other players who could have those CP amounts, so unless you farm these CP too youre definitely going to be at a disadvantage just because they have more CP than you, and it would take you (as @Ruder said) several years to get to the same CP without just going for grinding XP for a very long time.

And i doubt a lot of players are into grinding for CP for years just to be "competitive" with other players again.

Funny, I read so many posts about how skilled PvP players are and now I see a lot of posts about CP as if the only thing that makes a player good in PvP is CP. It kind of makes one's head spin.

Also, the whole thing of 2600 CP for min/max has been addressed, any post that actually has looked at the data puts the min/max number between 1400 to 1800. That is way less than 2600. Regardless it is min/max, min/max does not have a significant impact on overall play, especially PvP and even more so if PvP truly is more about skill (which it is usually outside of some stupid op builds)

Depends on what your idea of PvP is.
if you like zerging, even lower CPs will be ok for you.
But if you play solo, you need all these because u fight outnumbered.

Ruder

Orion_89 wrote: »

Speed of exp gaining will double after release of new CP system, so it will take 1,5 years for you. Is it long? Not for me at least. I'm 1000 CP now and glad, that there will be a space to grow for years. By the way, every one around you will be in the same situation.

Speed of exp gaining will NOT be adjusted, they only adjusted the needed experience for the CP gain and my calculations are based on the reworked EXP gain , so ye I`ll need 3 years.


The problem is that there are currently people with 2000+ CPs that will be in considerable advantage in PvP.

In PvE this is not as big problem (excluding the vet trial HMs).

Sgrug

Ruder wrote: »

Orion_89 wrote: »

Speed of exp gaining will double after release of new CP system, so it will take 1,5 years for you. Is it long? Not for me at least. I'm 1000 CP now and glad, that there will be a space to grow for years. By the way, every one around you will be in the same situation.

Speed of exp gaining will NOT be adjusted, they only adjusted the needed experience for the CP gain and my calculations are based on the reworked EXP gain , so ye I`ll need 3 years.


The problem is that there are currently people with 2000+ CPs that will be in considerable advantage in PvP.

In PvE this is not as big problem (excluding the vet trial HMs).

And just how many are there? It is a bad policy to make a process to address 5-10 examples out of thousands. I think a handful of players with 2000+ CP should not be the focus of sweeping changes to a system that has been worked on for 2 years.

I go weeks if not months without seeing a player over 2000 CP. As a rough guess, I see two peak averages, those between 600 to 900 and those between 1300 - 1600 CP. Those are the 2 clusters of CP averages I see daily.

KitLightning

Ruder wrote: »

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%...

No! The XP gain should stay as it is on live, to encourage players to work for their progression.

LarsS

I have checked my char on pts, you max out around 1500 cp in the blue tree, because you can only use for active stars.

gatekeeper13

If it's gonna take so long to make a viable, competitive build then most people will just be discouraged and quit.

Don't know why they made these CP changes. They seem ultra-useless to me. They should optimize the existing ones or enrich them.

mobicera

KitLightning wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

The Experience requirement for CP levels should be lowered with at least 300%...

No! The XP gain should stay as it is on live, to encourage players to work for their progression.

Xp grinding is just the illusion of progression.
You work for nothing and learn nothing grinding zombies.

ErMurazor

Orion_89 wrote: »

Speed of exp gaining will double after release of new CP system, so it will take 1,5 years for you. Is it long? Not for me at least. I'm 1000 CP now and glad, that there will be a space to grow for years. By the way, every one around you will be in the same situation.

No it wont. After 1020 CP its around 20% lower than on live. If you need 1mill XP on live it will be around 800k in the new CP system. So enjoy your next 20 CP they will be fast compared The grind is real....

Stanx

TwinLamps wrote: »

Now imagine being me.
And having a me type of issue.
And having 5 accounts.
And only one account is 1360 CP while rest are 600ish nad 360ish.
On EU server.
And on NA my main is barely over 700 cp, while rest are 160.

So.
Should I
a) Uninstall
b) Go Minecraft
c) Go Sudoku
d) Play noCP

e) 4 accounts?
f) 3 accounts?
g) 2 accounts?

What do you need 90 toons for?? And that's if they're all on the same server!

Sju

TwinLamps wrote: »

Now imagine being me.
And having a me type of issue.
And having 5 accounts.
And only one account is 1360 CP while rest are 600ish nad 360ish.
On EU server.
And on NA my main is barely over 700 cp, while rest are 160.

So.
Should I
a) Uninstall
b) Go Minecraft
c) Go Sudoku
d) Play noCP

Imagine all that time you spent on 5 different accounts could have been spent on the one and you'd have nothing to complain about because you'd be over 2k cp.

rumple9

CP 2.0 - best way to put off new players.
"They're killing it"

Universe

The new CP system undoubtedly will nerf almost everyone across the board(unless someone has exceptionally high CP).
While I like the way it gives Veteran players a worthy progression system, I don't like the fact that it we actually lose a lot of power before we can get it back through progression.

Soon "Elder Grinds Online"

TwinLamps wrote: »

Now imagine being me.
And having a me type of issue.
And having 5 accounts.
And only one account is 1360 CP while rest are 600ish nad 360ish.
On EU server.
And on NA my main is barely over 700 cp, while rest are 160.

So.
Should I
a) Uninstall
b) Go Minecraft
c) Go Sudoku
d) Play noCP

Sudoku is fun!

W0lf_z13

im looking forward to these changes .... it will give a reason to get more cp again... there will ALWAYS be someone higher level than you because very simply... they have put MORE time into it...... I've been playing since 2015, would have a lot more cp than I do now ... however I have remade characters, tried out new characters instead of just grinding away at 1

NordSwordnBoard

I wonder if they will have a 1:1 conversion. I hope that the CP implementation happens like a stock market conversion where your current holdings are converted into the new one without +/- much value. If you had 1000 CP now, you get an additional 250 or 500 CP at conversion, 1:1.25 or 1:1.5 based on your holdings.

Similar to the amount of CP handed out to players based on their VR (Veteran Rank at the time), I hope there's an instant return on our investment besides an accelerated XP gain, which requires more investment. It would help ease the pain of the "finish line" being moved back.

Yuffie91

This will be terrible for new players I imagine..seeing people running around with 2000 cp while they are..level 1