Help with magden

Yuffie91

Hey guys,

I have been playing for a while but never really bothered with gear. I love my magden and currently sitting at cp 550 I would like to get it some gear. I do not currently have eso + and I have all the chapters up til Elsewyr. I mostly play random bgs and random normal dungeons.

What would be good gear for me to use? I googled some but they were all dlc sets. Is there a good set that doesn't require eso+?

Yuffie91

Forgot to mention I am currently using the crafty aliq's set mixed with wizards riposte

Xaramasa

Mother's Sorrow is still one of the best magicka sets in the game, and it's from the base game. You can try farming them at Deshaan or buy them at Guild Stores. You can use it to replace Wizard's Riposte and pair it with Crafty Alfiq.

Yuffie91

Xaramasa wrote: »

Mother's Sorrow is still one of the best magicka sets in the game, and it's from the base game. You can try farming them at Deshaan or buy them at Guild Stores. You can use it to replace Wizard's Riposte and pair it with Crafty Alfiq.

I will look into it thank you!

Yuffie91

What about weapons? Do I also take mother's sorrow for this? I am currently using a non set weapon

FrancisCrawford

Some thoughts:

• BGs and dungeons aren't the same thing.
• I'm presuming you DPS rather than heal in dungeons, but you didn't actually say that.
• If you do heal, farm Spell Power Cure.
• If you DPS, farm a Maelstrom destruction staff.
• I don't do BGs, but if there isn't much healing in them, farm Ring of the Pale Order.
• Good monster helmets are often sold by The Golden. That said, the easiest ones to farm in dungeons are Ilambris and Grothdarr. Note that Grothdarr isn't ranged.
• When using a Maelstrom weapon, you want one of your 5-piece sets to be single-barred (or else you can't use a monster set). When using a mythic item, you want both of them to be single-barred, for the same reason.
• Mad Tinkerer is the most accessible purely single-bar magicka set.
• From a pure tooltip damage standpoint, I don't love running Wall of Elements on a magden. But between the maelstrom weapon and the help backbarring it provides in proccing your backbar enchant, it's probably worth it.

Yuffie91

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Some thoughts:

• BGs and dungeons aren't the same thing.
• I'm presuming you DPS rather than heal in dungeons, but you didn't actually say that.
• If you do heal, farm Spell Power Cure.
• If you DPS, farm a Maelstrom destruction staff.
• I don't do BGs, but if there isn't much healing in them, farm Ring of the Pale Order.
• Good monster helmets are often sold by The Golden. That said, the easiest ones to farm in dungeons are Ilambris and Grothdarr. Note that Grothdarr isn't ranged.
• When using a Maelstrom weapon, you want one of your 5-piece sets to be single-barred (or else you can't use a monster set). When using a mythic item, you want both of them to be single-barred, for the same reason.
• Mad Tinkerer is the most accessible purely single-bar magicka set.
• From a pure tooltip damage standpoint, I don't love running Wall of Elements on a magden. But between the maelstrom weapon and the help backbarring it provides in proccing your backbar enchant, it's probably worth it.

I mostly dps but also heal random normal dungeon.

What is single barred?

caperb

How is your sustain in BG's? Wizard´s riposte has had it best time years ago so you might want to change that set. Replacements for Wizard´s riposte could be:
- Eternal vigor if you have sustain problems. It is a set from Western skyrim but drops so often that it is very cheap in guild stores.
- Bright throat boast for some sustain and higher max magicka. It is a set from Murkmire, but it is in the game for some years now so can be bought quit cheaply in guild stores.
- Ice furnace might be another option for a damage set. It drops from the base game Direfrost keep dungeon.

Actually, the list of possible sets for a magicka warden in PvP is very big and it really depends on your playstyle. Do you want tankiness or more damage? Do you mostly use the health based heal or other heals? How much sustain do you need? Using proc sets for damage or stat based sets to increase the potency of your skills? All questions that can be answered when looking for new sets.

Also if you use the Betty netch it might be worth replacing Crafty alfiq for Necropotence since it has a higher magicka bonus. You can find the set from overland in Rivenspire or for some gold in guild stores.

For PvE you can go with any standard combination of a spell damage + spell critical set. An accesible combination is Mother's sorrow + Julianos, though it is not meta. For starting out with PvE builds I would actually recommend looking at guides from players like Alcast. He spends quite a lot of time releasing builds for all kinds of PvE content:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-warden-build-pve/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-solo-magicka-warden-build-pve/

If you want to know which guild traders sell which set pieces I would recommend using the TTC website (https://tamrieltradecentre.com/).

Edit: Julianos is a DLC set but is crafted. Most sets that are from zone DLC's are actually quite easy to get since they are either sold in guild stores or can be crafted by friendly players willing to help.

Yuffie91

caperb wrote: »

How is your sustain in BG's? Wizard´s riposte has had it best time years ago so you might want to change that set. Replacements for Wizard´s riposte could be:
- Eternal vigor if you have sustain problems. It is a set from Western skyrim but drops so often that it is very cheap in guild stores.
- Bright throat boast for some sustain and higher max magicka. It is a set from Murkmire, but it is in the game for some years now so can be bought quit cheaply in guild stores.
- Ice furnace might be another option for a damage set. It drops from the base game Direfrost keep dungeon.

Actually, the list of possible sets for a magicka warden in PvP is very big and it really depends on your playstyle. Do you want tankiness or more damage? Do you mostly use the health based heal or other heals? How much sustain do you need? Using proc sets for damage or stat based sets to increase the potency of your skills? All questions that can be answered when looking for new sets.

Also if you use the Betty netch it might be worth replacing Crafty alfiq for Necropotence since it has a higher magicka bonus. You can find the set from overland in Rivenspire or for some gold in guild stores.

For PvE you can go with any standard combination of a spell damage + spell critical set. An accesible combination is Mother's sorrow + Julianos, though it is not meta. For starting out with PvE builds I would actually recommend looking at guides from players like Alcast. He spends quite a lot of time releasing builds for all kinds of PvE content:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-warden-build-pve/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-solo-magicka-warden-build-pve/

If you want to know which guild traders sell which set pieces I would recommend using the TTC website (https://tamrieltradecentre.com/).

Edit: Julianos is a DLC set but is crafted. Most sets that are from zone DLC's are actually quite easy to get since they are either sold in guild stores or can be crafted by friendly players willing to help.

Thank you for the info!

DeepSeaDiver

Additional point to @caperb post and apologies if you already know this - if you're in a guild(s) that has attuned crafting stations in their guild house, you can craft DLC sets yourself so no ESO+ required (ie you can craft Juliano's assuming you have researched traits). Similar principle with a transmute station ie CWC (Clockwork) not required or needs a visit.

You can actually earn/buy the above stations for your own house if you really want (writ vouchers or from guild traders) but more difficult to obtain solo so not usually recommended.

SidraWillowsky

As people said above, Mother's Sorrow should definitely be one of your sets.

War Maiden might be worth trying- most of our skills are magic damage, so they'll get buffed. Burning Spellweave is a popular set for mag DDs, though I personally don't like it much. Necropotence is another strong set, though I personally haven't used it in PvE content outside of the solo arenas, so I don't know what the DPS looks like. You've got Summerset, so I'd definitely recommend getting the Siroria set from Cloudrest, as it's very strong for the more static fights in the game.

For monster sets, Maw of the Infernal is the meta right now. I don't like the daedroth thing and have enough going on with my bear, so I prefer Valkyn Skoria in 95% of content and Zaan for stationary fights.

Do NOT use Wizard's Riposte in PvE- enemies cannot inflict critical damage, so that buff is completely wasted. Necropotence is a bit stronger than Crafty Alfiq as well.

I looked at Alcast's magwarden build above and I'm not sure why he slots Necrotic Orb on the front bar. I think it would be much more beneficial to move it to the back bar and slot the netch instead to benefit from the Animal Companions passive that increases your damage by some % for each AC ability you have slotted. I also find that I don't need the shield and that it's better to double-bar Bird of Prey.

Yuffie91

Thanks for the info guys!

FrancisCrawford

Yuffie91 wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Some thoughts:

• BGs and dungeons aren't the same thing.
• I'm presuming you DPS rather than heal in dungeons, but you didn't actually say that.
• If you do heal, farm Spell Power Cure.
• If you DPS, farm a Maelstrom destruction staff.
• I don't do BGs, but if there isn't much healing in them, farm Ring of the Pale Order.
• Good monster helmets are often sold by The Golden. That said, the easiest ones to farm in dungeons are Ilambris and Grothdarr. Note that Grothdarr isn't ranged.
• When using a Maelstrom weapon, you want one of your 5-piece sets to be single-barred (or else you can't use a monster set). When using a mythic item, you want both of them to be single-barred, for the same reason.
• Mad Tinkerer is the most accessible purely single-bar magicka set.
• From a pure tooltip damage standpoint, I don't love running Wall of Elements on a magden. But between the maelstrom weapon and the help backbarring it provides in proccing your backbar enchant, it's probably worth it.

I mostly dps but also heal random normal dungeon.

What is single barred?

If you have weapons from different sets on different bars, then you likely will have set bonuses active only one of the two bars. For some sets (generally including "stat" sets such as Julianos, Mother's Sorrow or Spinners), this means you only get the benefit of the bonus when you're on that weapon bar. For other sets (generally incuding "proc" sets such as Mad Tinkerer, Burning Spellweave, Overwhelming Surge, or Spell Power Cure), you can get most or all of the benefits of the bonus even if you're often not on the bar that causes those benefits to trigger.

The_Old_Goat

Mother's sorrow and War maiden is a nice potent combination.