Transmute Crystals Limit

kapachia

Now that Transmute Crystals are becoming a second de facto currency after gold, we need a higher limit than 1000. If ZOS wants us to decon and play sticker book, we need more than 1000 crystal limit. I am not even opening 50 Transmute reward and just storing them in mule inventory. I am randomly creating Mythic item whenever my transmute crystal reaches over 950.

It will be nice for us to worry about one less thing to manage in this game. So we can just play.

Starlock

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

QuebraRegra

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

there's another reason to unsub that they haven't addressed... if you have ESO+ the random daily dungeon adds all the DLC dungeons to the list (much harder). No way to filter them out. meanwhile base gamer gets to fun FUNGAL GROTTO 1.... LOL!

Starlock

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

there's another reason to unsub that they haven't addressed... if you have ESO+ the random daily dungeon adds all the DLC dungeons to the list (much harder). No way to filter them out. meanwhile base gamer gets to fun FUNGAL GROTTO 1.... LOL!

Yup, and it's costing them my money this year. This wasn't the only factor in me cutting my sub after having one for... what... three years? But it was a significant one. When they add an overland source of transmutes, I'll look at it again. Maybe. But probably not. I've had it up to here with this game's disrespectful monetization. Wouldn't surprise me if transmute crystals are coming to a cash shop near you...

kapachia

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game. [/quo

PvP is basically the best way to earn transmutation crystals. Simple to get 50 per toons every 30 day campaign (just need to spend about 1 hr per toon) and get tons of crystals per day simply playing either solo or in group.

Daily PvE pledge is easy to do.

JavaRen

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

nukk3r

They should've kept it at 200. It's been three months since they increased the limit and you already ask for more.

AcadianPaladin

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

This my thinking as well. I'm just delighted to see the cap is 1000 instead of 200 and how nicely the stickerbook gives more flexibility when it comes to bank slots.

My elf generally solos one pledge a day. She knows Maj's and Redbeard's schedule and loads up (with different variants) on the 8 or so alliance zone group dungeons she can solo. It is slow but steady - and enjoyable. She saw quite an influx during Midyear Mayhem with her casual PvE forays into Cyrodiil but that is the only time she goes there.

With our 'end game' of soloing some normal group dungeons and soloing most alliance zone WBs, this slow rate of acquiring transmute crystals is more than adequate, since she needs to use them only rarely. Since the new stickerbook system began, she has transmuted nothing but is gradually working toward crafting a dungeon set eventually to replace Hunding's Rage when playing a bowsorc. No hurry and, actually, nothing really wrong with Hunding's Rage for our purposes.

Lumenn

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

Do you not like PvP? It really doesn't take long in PvP to get score lvl 1. I'm not NEARLY as big into it as I used to be but when I started as a soloer I had NO clue what I was doing(this was before transmutes though) but honestly if you dislike PvP just jump to the furthest camp and repair walls/doors and support the fighters from the walls with siege equipment. Not saying you won't die but it limits your chances. I've 10 characters and not all are built for PvP. Still have 650 stones from last campaigns and midyear made leveling them up this time a breeze.

Kurat

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

there's another reason to unsub that they haven't addressed... if you have ESO+ the random daily dungeon adds all the DLC dungeons to the list (much harder). No way to filter them out. meanwhile base gamer gets to fun FUNGAL GROTTO 1.... LOL!

If you unsub then your 1000 crystal limit will drop to 500. You may get Fungal Grottos more often but cant store them crystals lol.

Starlock

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

zvavi

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

there's another reason to unsub that they haven't addressed... if you have ESO+ the random daily dungeon adds all the DLC dungeons to the list (much harder). No way to filter them out. meanwhile base gamer gets to fun FUNGAL GROTTO 1.... LOL!

You can filter them out... Low level guildie(or guildie without dlc's...). What you can't filter out though, is the non dlc ones. Bo-ring.

Snowstrider

Have they raised the amount of transmute crystals you get from daily dungeons yet? Whats the easiest way to get crystals? I know before playing pvp was one method but I dont like pvp in eso

Xuhora

Snowstrider wrote: »

Have they raised the amount of transmute crystals you get from daily dungeons yet? Whats the easiest way to get crystals? I know before playing pvp was one method but I dont like pvp in eso

the daily random dungeon (on vet or on normal) will reward you with 10 transmute cristals per char, per day. its quiet effective!

redlink1979

Why do you keep collecting crystals if you don't use them? What's the point? This makes no sense to me.

Bobby's_UserID

>> Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac?

You know that tamrieltradecentre is available in browser and can filter for all platforms and regions, right?
Btw, trade cheat add-ons made me giggle a bit.

Magdalina

Starlock wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

But what content are we talking about then that you're experimenting with the fun sets in? It isn't PvP and it isn't group PvE so...overland? Arenas? If it's just overland, then what's stopping you from playing with sets without transmutes? Getting that perfect trait only really matters in high-end group content (or solo arenas). The crystals are 'locked' behind the very content where they actually matter.

I'm also confused as for how you mention you don't like farming/grinding (which I can totally get behind) and also don't like shopping for sets. But...in order to reconstruct an item with transmute crystals, you first gotta find that item (even if it's in a different trait). So in order to play with open world sets you HAVE to farm or buy, no amount of transmute crystals can let you bypass that entirely.

Starlock

Magdalina wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

But what content are we talking about then that you're experimenting with the fun sets in? It isn't PvP and it isn't group PvE so...overland? Arenas? If it's just overland, then what's stopping you from playing with sets without transmutes? Getting that perfect trait only really matters in high-end group content (or solo arenas). The crystals are 'locked' behind the very content where they actually matter.

I'm also confused as for how you mention you don't like farming/grinding (which I can totally get behind) and also don't like shopping for sets. But...in order to reconstruct an item with transmute crystals, you first gotta find that item (even if it's in a different trait). So in order to play with open world sets you HAVE to farm or buy, no amount of transmute crystals can let you bypass that entirely.

*sigh*

You need to read through that list of five reasons again. And when you read it, discard your biases and assumptions about how the game is "supposed" to be played. If you can't do that, no amount of me attempting to clarify things for you is going to help.

Starlock

Bobby's_UserID wrote: »

>> Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac?

You know that tamrieltradecentre is available in browser and can filter for all platforms and regions, right?
Btw, trade cheat add-ons made me giggle a bit.

Ooh, if only that worked for consoles. No, we have to schlep around manually to every single trader and just kind of hope they have what we are looking for. I've done it plenty of times, but it is an incredible pain in the rear. Often I am looking for sets that "nobody" wants - sets that are fun and interesting and work really well for my character ideas - so that makes it even harder to find them in traders. I would far rather run a few random dungeons and reconstruct a piece I need than deal with that noise.

Mahabahabtha

nukk3r wrote: »

They should've kept it at 200. It's been three months since they increased the limit and you already ask for more.

I reached the first 1k two days after they capped it to that, filled my stickerbook with the relevant sets, constructed for 750 +- 100, opend all my Geodes, was on 1k again, build an intersting set + 3 Pale Order and after Midyear Event I am again a 1k and has Plenty of unopend Geodes....

It would be nice, when there was a way to trade ingame currencys against other ingame currencys...

Eedat

Starlock wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Urgh. If only I had that problem. Because they lock this to group content, I basically don't earn any on a regular basis. It's kind of stupid, and a huge factor in me unsubbing from the game.

there's another reason to unsub that they haven't addressed... if you have ESO+ the random daily dungeon adds all the DLC dungeons to the list (much harder). No way to filter them out. meanwhile base gamer gets to fun FUNGAL GROTTO 1.... LOL!

Yup, and it's costing them my money this year. This wasn't the only factor in me cutting my sub after having one for... what... three years? But it was a significant one. When they add an overland source of transmutes, I'll look at it again. Maybe. But probably not. I've had it up to here with this game's disrespectful monetization. Wouldn't surprise me if transmute crystals are coming to a cash shop near you...

The monitization in this game is actually pretty tame. There is zero actual pay2win in there. At worst it's pay4convience and cosmetics.

kargen27

Starlock wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

But what content are we talking about then that you're experimenting with the fun sets in? It isn't PvP and it isn't group PvE so...overland? Arenas? If it's just overland, then what's stopping you from playing with sets without transmutes? Getting that perfect trait only really matters in high-end group content (or solo arenas). The crystals are 'locked' behind the very content where they actually matter.

I'm also confused as for how you mention you don't like farming/grinding (which I can totally get behind) and also don't like shopping for sets. But...in order to reconstruct an item with transmute crystals, you first gotta find that item (even if it's in a different trait). So in order to play with open world sets you HAVE to farm or buy, no amount of transmute crystals can let you bypass that entirely.

*sigh*

You need to read through that list of five reasons again. And when you read it, discard your biases and assumptions about how the game is "supposed" to be played. If you can't do that, no amount of me attempting to clarify things for you is going to help.

You generalized and someone who was interested enough to reply asked for specifics. That is part of having a conversation. And honestly only two of your five reasons really apply.

ThorianB

Starlock wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

Want to point out that you can get crystals from just doing BGs as well. I know PVP isn't your thing but BGs just require you to try at most. I do agree that crystals shouldn't be locked to group content. Maybe put as a reward for some combat oriented daily repeatable quests such as the delve and world boss dailies.

It is even more important that a solo player has good gear with good traits as if you solo any group content you will need all the benefits of your gear. Not to mention that a solo player shouldn't be locked out of being able to transmute gear sets they want. Why should you be punished by having to farm a gear set when group players can just poof it into existence using transmute crystals?

Starlock

kargen27 wrote: »

[And honestly only two of your five reasons really apply.

No, they all apply. Though not all of those possible reasons will apply to the same persons, but they are all nevertheless reasons why a player would want to use the system. If you don't share any of those reasons, then add yours to the list I started. I didn't make an exhaustive one. There are many, many reasons why a player would want to use the system.

ThorianB wrote: »

Want to point out that you can get crystals from just doing BGs as well. I know PVP isn't your thing but BGs just require you to try at most.

I've thought about that, but from past experiences doing competitive gaming in other genres, I feel it would be really disrespectful of me to do that. I will not tailor my characters for it, and in such small teams I would not be doing myself or my team any favors - I would only be dragging everything down. I don't want to do that to myself or to others.

ThorianB wrote: »

I do agree that crystals shouldn't be locked to group content. Maybe put as a reward for some combat oriented daily repeatable quests such as the delve and world boss dailies.

I don't mind it being limited to "group" content if that is extended to include world bosses and world events that are intended to be completed with multiple players. I get that part of their design goal with this system is to encourage players to engage in group gameplay. The way it is now, though, it alienates the players for whom that isn't their thing. For those who really don't like group content at all - which doesn't include me but there are some staunch lone wolves out there - they can't use the set collections system since they can't earn transmute crystals. Some would argue that's the price paid for being a lone wolf in an MMO, but I guess I'm more interested in equity. Hell, if players like the OP could trade their crystals with me like some other types of currency I'd be totally game for that!

Matchimus

Making the most out of what you have is a good life skill. Saying something when something isn't right to effect change is also a good life skill. Knowing which one to use is the key to a good life.

kargen27

Starlock wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

[And honestly only two of your five reasons really apply.

No, they all apply. Though not all of those possible reasons will apply to the same persons, but they are all nevertheless reasons why a player would want to use the system. If you don't share any of those reasons, then add yours to the list I started. I didn't make an exhaustive one. There are many, many reasons why a player would want to use the system.

ThorianB wrote: »

Want to point out that you can get crystals from just doing BGs as well. I know PVP isn't your thing but BGs just require you to try at most.

I've thought about that, but from past experiences doing competitive gaming in other genres, I feel it would be really disrespectful of me to do that. I will not tailor my characters for it, and in such small teams I would not be doing myself or my team any favors - I would only be dragging everything down. I don't want to do that to myself or to others.

ThorianB wrote: »

I do agree that crystals shouldn't be locked to group content. Maybe put as a reward for some combat oriented daily repeatable quests such as the delve and world boss dailies.

I don't mind it being limited to "group" content if that is extended to include world bosses and world events that are intended to be completed with multiple players. I get that part of their design goal with this system is to encourage players to engage in group gameplay. The way it is now, though, it alienates the players for whom that isn't their thing. For those who really don't like group content at all - which doesn't include me but there are some staunch lone wolves out there - they can't use the set collections system since they can't earn transmute crystals. Some would argue that's the price paid for being a lone wolf in an MMO, but I guess I'm more interested in equity. Hell, if players like the OP could trade their crystals with me like some other types of currency I'd be totally game for that!

I stand by my comment that only two apply. The other items in the list may be concerns players have but those concerns are not related to a crystal cap.

Sure sets are fun but you must first have the set before you can begin creating the set. That means either earning the set pieces on your own or purchasing them. An unlimited amount of crystals isn't getting you that first piece of gear you need to create the others.
The jewelry one does apply but ZoS never wanted the jewelry acquisition to be easy.
The limit is there by design. They have made it much easier to get the desired traits on gear but they don't want to make it so accessible it takes away the incentive for players to repeat content. The games long term health depends on content being repeated. Players being able to change an entire gear set on a whim takes away the incentive.

Just a guess on my part but if they did increase the limit or have no limit they would greatly decrease the amount we can gain from any activity. That is how they would keep us repeating content.

renne

Bobby's_UserID wrote: »

>> Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac?

You know that tamrieltradecentre is available in browser and can filter for all platforms and regions, right?
Btw, trade cheat add-ons made me giggle a bit.

You know TTC doesn't work on console because it requires an addon and the client, right?

E.g.: https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/ps/Trade

I'm assuming the only things listed here for PS4-NA are the things people have manually added themselves.

Magdalina

Starlock wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

I'm very confused why this question gets asked so often, but here's three reasons:

• Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
• Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
• Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.
• Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
• Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

Okay, I lied - I gave you five reasons. I could probably come up with a few more, too.

Lumenn wrote: »

Do you not like PvP?

Nope. While the game mode has potential, there are just way too many problems with it in ESO for me to bother. So it's random dungeons or bust. Pledges are OK, but the crystal drop rate is pathetic for them. Like, super pathetic. See also: bullet point number five above.

But what content are we talking about then that you're experimenting with the fun sets in? It isn't PvP and it isn't group PvE so...overland? Arenas? If it's just overland, then what's stopping you from playing with sets without transmutes? Getting that perfect trait only really matters in high-end group content (or solo arenas). The crystals are 'locked' behind the very content where they actually matter.

I'm also confused as for how you mention you don't like farming/grinding (which I can totally get behind) and also don't like shopping for sets. But...in order to reconstruct an item with transmute crystals, you first gotta find that item (even if it's in a different trait). So in order to play with open world sets you HAVE to farm or buy, no amount of transmute crystals can let you bypass that entirely.

*sigh*

You need to read through that list of five reasons again. And when you read it, discard your biases and assumptions about how the game is "supposed" to be played. If you can't do that, no amount of me attempting to clarify things for you is going to help.

That's so weird. Why is it that every time you try to have some sort of constructive conversation and actually elaborate on specific points with some people here you're met with this glorious eye rolling and 'oh you just don't understand' and 'go re-read my post in case you didn't understand it the first time' attitude? I mean, if you don't wanna talk about it with people (which will inevitably include disagreement and counterarguments), just submit feedback in game and don't post on forums...

Okay, let's try this again...

[*] Sets are Fun. You know, fun? People playing games for fun? Using a set because it is fun? Experimenting? Being creative? Stuff like that? Try it sometime!
[*]

Indeed! Sets are fun. What's stopping you from playing with them in the current system? Transmute crystals only allow you to recreate/change trait on gear you've already found, not acquire something you don't already have.

[*] Whadda ya mean jewelry only drops one trait?! It just does. Once upon a time, this made sense. It doesn't anymore, but it's still a thing. Want jewelry in something other than what it drops in? Transmute = mandatory.
[*]

Set jewelry drops in set trait usually, that's true. I'm still not convinced on the necessity of the transmutation though. Again, what content are we talking about? Can you provide examples of noticeable impact that the different jewelry traits make on your playstyle?

[*] Shopping for sets is a gods awful experience. Ever tried doing this on consoles or without your precious trade cheat add-ons on PC/Mac? Go and do that. Feel the pain. You will understand instantly, we promise.

[*] Dude, don't play games to do chores! Farming is what you do to grow fruits and vegetables, not for entertainment. Play what you want, when you want, on your terms, and never, ever grind. Peace of mind abounds!

I re-read this at least five times and I'm still confused as for how transmutes help with that. Transmutes help you change traits on the gear you have already acquired. If you want to play around with Infero Staff of Mother's Sorrow but haven't collected it yet, and you have 1000 transmutes, you still need to buy or farm that staff. Yes, you can buy/farm it in Training as opposed to Infused, but you still need to buy/farm it, there's simply no way around it.

[*] Oh, look at all that free inventory space! Isn't it nice to just be able to reconstruct things instead of hoarding? Of course it is! Who doesn't want to do that? Well, maybe a few obsessive-compulsive types...
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That's one valid argument I can see here.

RageKing

Did you know you that if you know all pieces of a set like a monster set. it costs 25 stones to make, and you get 25 stones back if you decon it.

so if you have more transmute stones than you can hold. start making a bunch of monster helms or shoulders for 25 each then just store them somewhere. if you need stones decon them and get the 25 back.

Your basically hoarding stones but as set gear which you can decon if ya need stones.

i have storage coffers full of monster helms that are worth 25 stones each that im hoarding

Jaimeh

JavaRen wrote: »

Honest question: if you don't do dungeons or PvP what do you need trans crystals for?

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Even if you don't do group content or PvP, you still might have a lot of alternate characters that you need to gear for solo'ing, or for speedy builds, thieving, etc., so it's nice to have the transmutes in hand, so you don't have to farm the sets all over again.

Starlock

Magdalina wrote: »

That's so weird. Why is it that every time you try to have some sort of constructive conversation and actually elaborate on specific points with some people here you're met with this glorious eye rolling and 'oh you just don't understand' and 'go re-read my post in case you didn't understand it the first time' attitude?

My apologies - I reacted poorly because the content of your post along with your tone didn't suggest to me you are interested in understanding others' perspectives. The rest of your reply post reinforced that to me, especially this bit here:

Magdalina wrote: »

That's one valid argument I can see here.

I've no interest whatsoever in arguing. You don't get to decide what is and isn't valid for other players. Sorry, but you don't. I don't get to decide what is valid for you either. Nobody is the thought and opinion police of anyone else. Folks play this game for different reasons and they don't need to justify that to anyone other than themselves.

As I said to someone else, not all reasons will apply to the same persons, but they are all nevertheless reasons why a player would want to use the system. If you don't share any of those reasons, then add yours to the list I started. I didn't make an exhaustive one. There are many, many reasons why a player would want to use the system. And they are all valid for that person and their experiences.

I don't at all mind sharing more about my gameplay experiences and why this system is interesting to me or why I might want to use it, but I am not going to argue with you or anyone else about it.