Do you think players should be able to transfer characters, progress, unlockables and purchases?

hexentb16_ESO

Do you think players should be able to transfer characters, progress, unlockables and purchases across platforms?

I would like to know what you think. If you wish you can comment on whether or not you think ZOS can pull such a thing off. But please vote on if you think players should be able to transfer their characters, progress, unlockables, and purchases to their own account on other platforms.

Vevvev

Across platforms??? No, but across servers we absolutely should be able to.

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Vevvev wrote: »

Across platforms??? No, but across servers we absolutely should be able to.

Its the same thing. The only difference is how you access said servers. NA-PC, NA-XBOX, and NA-PS are all different servers just like EU-PC is. Transferring to EU-PC or NA-XBOX from NA-PC would be the same process. A character made on each all belongs to the same account too.

Snowstrider

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Yes we should and this not existing is the only reason i am not playing ESO because i rarely play on console and if i do i dont want to play ESO and I do not want to restart on PC because all the money, progress and time i have spent on the game would be for nothing..

If we cant have crossplay please let us just have this! I miss ESO

LalMirchi

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

And Unicorns will be universally available

VaranisArano

Should they?
In an ideal world, sure, why not?

In the practical world?
Cross-console is probably more feasible, as they are on an even footing as far as addon-useage is concerned. I suspect console&PC crossplay/transfers is going to take some talking to Microsoft and Sony about either allowing some curated addons or else ZOS really buckling down on making useful addons into base game features. Otherwise the console economy gets really messed up by people with access to PC addons, among other things.

In the real world?
*slaps on my jade-colored glasses*
What do you think makes ZOS more money longterm? Players buying server/platform transfers or players starting over from scratch when they switch servers/platforms?

As long as ZOS makes more profit from players starting over, they don't have to spend money and development time working towards transfers (which they currently say they can't do.)

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

By the way, so no one else needs to say it. ZOS has stated that this isn't currently possible. They have done server transfers before however the servers being transferred to were "empty". This is a gross oversimplification but thats as simple as it can be put.

While not entirely wrong ZOS is also not entirely correct when they say its not currently possible. It IS possible as far as collection unlocks go, purchased or otherwise. They literally have the tools to do this. However it is currently a manual process. Perhaps a server dev has created an automated process already but I am not sure.

When it comes to transferring characters...well, they'd probably have to be "remade" with the exact same customization options and given the same gear instead of simply copied over. Assuming their reason for it only being possible in the past being because the target servers were "empty" is legit. So this to is possible but only manually...and you'd probably have to be the one to do it.

The thing I can't be certain about is transferring quest progress, character level, and achievements. This is because everything listed above thus far has either been done already for me by a GM or done for a friend. I have never heard of a GM "transferring" quest, level, or achievement progress.

But ya, it IS mostly possible. ZOS just hasn't turned it into an automated process yet. If they put the work into making it possible they could not only make a lot of people happy but also make some fat stacks. I myself would be willing to pay up to $100 for transfer. $60 if it was just my collections.

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

VaranisArano wrote: »

What do you think makes ZOS more money longterm? Players buying server/platform transfers or players starting over from scratch when they switch servers/platforms?

Depends on how much would be transferred. I don't want to know just how much I've spent on ESO. But its been waaaaaaaaaaaay more than $100. I have a badass gaming computer that can handle ESO but I'll never switch and rebuy everything because of how much I've already bought. I would however spend say...$100 to have it transfered. In my case ZOS would make $100 from transferring me to pc as apposed to $0 by not transferring me.

I suspect I'm by far not the only player who is thinking the same. Lets say at least 100 players think the same as me. Thats $10,000 dollars ZOS is missing out on. This amount increases based on how many are in the same situation as me and think the same. If ZOS really wanted to know how much money they're missing out on they could do a poll on the game itself. Every yes would =$100 if they phrased it like "If paid character transfers were possible for $100, would you purchase such a service?" I'm certain ZOS is missing out on making far more money than they think.

AlnilamE

I think you need to lay out more specific scenarios, because your OP is a bit vague.

Do you mean:

1. Transfer one of my NA characters to EU on the same platform?
2. Transfer DLCs that I purchased on NA to EU?
3. Transfer non-consumable crown store items from NA to EU?
4. Swap my NA account with my EU account? (ie, my EU char comes over to NA and my NA characters and all their achievements/champion points,etc go to EU)?
5. Delete your account from PC and recreate it on Playstation or Xbox servers?
6. Copy a character from my PC NA account to an X-Box Account where I just purchased ESO?

These are all different projects with different complications, so you need to figure out exactly which one you are asking for.

kargen27

If it were possible I would say with the new generations of consoles arriving a one time account swap from one server to another should be allowed.

AlexanderDeLarge

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Vevvev wrote: »

Across platforms??? No, but across servers we absolutely should be able to.

No one should ever be locked into an ecosystem for a game like this that'll outlive multiple console generations. If someone wants to switch from a Playstation to PC or vice versa, let them.

bmnoble

No, we shouldn't be able to transfer

Not opposed to console players being able to make the switch to PC if they desire as an exception but it should not be a frequent back and forth with some kind of token you can buy in the crown store pick one platform and stick with it.

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

AlnilamE wrote: »

I think you need to lay out more specific scenarios, because your OP is a bit vague.

Do you mean:

1. Transfer one of my NA characters to EU on the same platform?
2. Transfer DLCs that I purchased on NA to EU?
3. Transfer non-consumable crown store items from NA to EU?
4. Swap my NA account with my EU account? (ie, my EU char comes over to NA and my NA characters and all their achievements/champion points,etc go to EU)?
5. Delete your account from PC and recreate it on Playstation or Xbox servers?
6. Copy a character from my PC NA account to an X-Box Account where I just purchased ESO?

These are all different projects with different complications, so you need to figure out exactly which one you are asking for.

According to ZOS staff that I've spoken to NA-PC, NA-XBOX, NA-PC, and EU-PC, Are all considered different servers in the same sense and characters created on each are all under the same account. The transfer I speak of as stated is moving content from one server to another.

itscompton

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

By the way, so no one else needs to say it. ZOS has stated that this isn't currently possible. They have done server transfers before however the servers being transferred to were "empty". This is a gross oversimplification but thats as simple as it can be put.

While not entirely wrong ZOS is also not entirely correct when they say its not currently possible. It IS possible as far as collection unlocks go, purchased or otherwise. They literally have the tools to do this. However it is currently a manual process. Perhaps a server dev has created an automated process already but I am not sure.

When it comes to transferring characters...well, they'd probably have to be "remade" with the exact same customization options and given the same gear instead of simply copied over. Assuming their reason for it only being possible in the past being because the target servers were "empty" is legit. So this to is possible but only manually...and you'd probably have to be the one to do it.

The thing I can't be certain about is transferring quest progress, character level, and achievements. This is because everything listed above thus far has either been done already for me by a GM or done for a friend. I have never heard of a GM "transferring" quest, level, or achievement progress.

But ya, it IS mostly possible. ZOS just hasn't turned it into an automated process yet. If they put the work into making it possible they could not only make a lot of people happy but also make some fat stacks. I myself would be willing to pay up to $100 for transfer. $60 if it was just my collections.

If I paid $100 to transfer/copy my account to PC it better come with everything I've got on my PS account including my house and all the stuff I've bought for it. That said if it was a TOTAL transfer/copy I'd pay $100 for it.

bmnoble wrote: »

Not opposed to console players being able to make the switch to PC if they desire as an exception but it should not be a frequent back and forth with some kind of token you can buy in the crown store pick one platform and stick with it.

If they did this it should be an account copy rather than a migration. There is no reason to delete the info from the original server. I'd love to play on both platforms but there is no way I'm doing all the research for everything again, getting all the collections again, making 10 million gold again and grinding all the skill lines and the 1300 CP to be back to where I am now.

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

bmnoble wrote: »

Not opposed to console players being able to make the switch to PC if they desire as an exception but it should not be a frequent back and forth with some kind of token you can buy in the crown store pick one platform and stick with it.

Why shouldn't it be a token and a repeatable process? ...I mean...I'd only do it once but I don't see why it would be a bad thing for someone to be able to transfer back and fourth after its been made into a paid automated service. Heck, the idea of people doing such a thing would be an even better incentive for ZOS to make this possible.

Cirantille

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

I don't even mind buying the stuff again but I literally do not have time for leveling 18 chars and get to this point once again

Fermian

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Things like this keep people playing. Its not just about adding content.

LalMirchi

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Simple answer:

Yes

Faiza

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Yes.

If for any reason I have to switch platforms or servers, I'm simply not going to continue playing this game. I've invested too much money into my account to lose it all like that. It'll be sad but it is what it is.

Skcarkden

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Hell, most other MMO's have cross-server transference between regions like NA/EU in the evnt one is full etc.

fondly remember lamenting this issue when i would switch to EU server on ps4 when the NA server was down for maintenance on ESO... was greatly amused when ZOS decided to just take both down at once instead now.

I'm sure it would have been quite easy for a simple cross-server/cross-play set up to have been made if they had the foresight and skill to do it without just looking at other MMO's and ignoring all the lessons they've already learned but take the concepts people hated from them.

RedMuse

Would it be nice if we were able to? Sure. But it may not be technically possible.

AlnilamE

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I think you need to lay out more specific scenarios, because your OP is a bit vague.

Do you mean:

1. Transfer one of my NA characters to EU on the same platform?
2. Transfer DLCs that I purchased on NA to EU?
3. Transfer non-consumable crown store items from NA to EU?
4. Swap my NA account with my EU account? (ie, my EU char comes over to NA and my NA characters and all their achievements/champion points,etc go to EU)?
5. Delete your account from PC and recreate it on Playstation or Xbox servers?
6. Copy a character from my PC NA account to an X-Box Account where I just purchased ESO?

These are all different projects with different complications, so you need to figure out exactly which one you are asking for.

According to ZOS staff that I've spoken to NA-PC, NA-XBOX, NA-PC, and EU-PC, Are all considered different servers in the same sense and characters created on each are all under the same account. The transfer I speak of as stated is moving content from one server to another.

OK, this might require some clarification, because while they are all different SERVERS, I don't think my account exists on the console servers the same way it exists on the EU server.

I have one character on EU that I created to participate in the discovery events. But I don't think I could just log on the Xbox and create a character there without creating an actual account there.

hexentb16_ESO

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

AlnilamE wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I think you need to lay out more specific scenarios, because your OP is a bit vague.

Do you mean:

1. Transfer one of my NA characters to EU on the same platform?
2. Transfer DLCs that I purchased on NA to EU?
3. Transfer non-consumable crown store items from NA to EU?
4. Swap my NA account with my EU account? (ie, my EU char comes over to NA and my NA characters and all their achievements/champion points,etc go to EU)?
5. Delete your account from PC and recreate it on Playstation or Xbox servers?
6. Copy a character from my PC NA account to an X-Box Account where I just purchased ESO?

These are all different projects with different complications, so you need to figure out exactly which one you are asking for.

According to ZOS staff that I've spoken to NA-PC, NA-XBOX, NA-PC, and EU-PC, Are all considered different servers in the same sense and characters created on each are all under the same account. The transfer I speak of as stated is moving content from one server to another.

OK, this might require some clarification, because while they are all different SERVERS, I don't think my account exists on the console servers the same way it exists on the EU server.

I have one character on EU that I created to participate in the discovery events. But I don't think I could just log on the Xbox and create a character there without creating an actual account there.

I'm on xbox, pc before that. I use the same account and didn't need to make a new one.

Kiralyn2000

No, we shouldn't be able to transfer

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Across platforms??? No, but across servers we absolutely should be able to.

Its the same thing. The only difference is how you access said servers. NA-PC, NA-XBOX, and NA-PS are all different servers just like EU-PC is. Transferring to EU-PC or NA-XBOX from NA-PC would be the same process.

It's not quite the same, because the different stores (PSN, PC, XB) run under different contracts/etc.

Yuffie91

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Do you think players should be able to transfer characters, progress, unlockables and purchases across platforms?

I would like to know what you think. If you wish you can comment on whether or not you think ZOS can pull such a thing off. But please vote on if you think players should be able to transfer their characters, progress, unlockables, and purchases to their own account on other platforms.

Forget transfering progress..I wish progress as in achievements was account wide and not bound to character

Vlad9425

Yes but it will never happen because for example why would Microsoft want someone switching to Sony and therefore taking a player away from Xbox and losing money as well as making money for PlayStation.

DaveMoeDee

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Do you think players should be able to transfer characters, progress, unlockables and purchases across platforms?

I would like to know what you think. If you wish you can comment on whether or not you think ZOS can pull such a thing off. But please vote on if you think players should be able to transfer their characters, progress, unlockables, and purchases to their own account on other platforms.

Purchases, sure. Any kind of progress? Maybe. Achievements and unlockables? Depends. Nothing achievement related to a competitive activity or the hardest content. Inventory or currency? No. No items or currency at all as economies on different platforms are very different.

I am fine with transferred characters partially. By that, I mean transferring all leveling of skills. Obvious not CP since OP asked about moving characters and not full accounts.

Now that I have answered the question of OP as-is, I would point out that when I bought a second Imperial edition with a bad key at launch, my account ended up inactive. When I eventually bought a base game version (post Summerset since I believe it includes Vvardenfell) and applied the key to that same account, the Imperial Edition was still active. It doesn't seem like something they mess with.

Technically speaking, I don't think they should do any of that, even if they could. Too many chances for problems that would waste their time.

Tsar_Gekkou

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

A lot of people would definitely buy a pc copy of the game to transfer from console to pc so zos would make even more money off of people who want to move to pc. Besides, a lot of people get tired of console performance and quit, but with addons and the general hardware strength of pc, people wouldn't be as annoyed with the performance of the game, meaning they'd stick around longer which increases the chance they'll continue buying stuff from the crown store, which is even more money in Zos' pockets.

Universe

Not sure how it can be possible, character names are unique per server in ESO.
Unless it will be like WOW that incorporates the entire realm name into the character description when migrated and that's unpleasant to read
Not to mention that Blizzard asks for name change upon transfer if the name is already taken.
Anyway, If ZOS will grant free character name change upon transfer, character transfer won't be such a problem.

Though I don't think it is worth the development time & money for ZOS.
One can simply start over and buy everything he needs again.

Vorpan

I think anything purchased with real money should be unlockable. Chapters, crown purchases, ect.

Character transfers will probably never happen.

Snowstrider

Yes, we should be able to transfer.

Vlad9425 wrote: »

Yes but it will never happen because for example why would Microsoft want someone switching to Sony and therefore taking a player away from Xbox and losing money as well as making money for PlayStation.

It is not up to microsoft or Sony since consoles and especially microsoft have been pushing for more crossplay and crossprogression so its mosly up to ZOS