The Absolute Meta DPS

Sunderling

Probably a commonly asked question and I apologize for this:

What is the absolute meta DPS Race > Class > Stam/Mag

And what is the runner up?

I have a High Elf Magsorc
And I just made an Orc Stamsorc
I also have a Stamblade, that I could turn into a Magblade (Dark Elf).

My Stam DK is pretty much just for pvp.

Opinions?

ZeroDPS

believe me bro, you dont need this info because ZOS changing/nerfing everything in every 3 months, so play orc mag dk....

ThorianB

ZeroDPS wrote: »

believe me bro, you dont need this info because ZOS changing/nerfing everything in every 3 months, so play orc mag dk....

Not even 3 months. About 1 month.

IneedaDollar

Since I don't know how experienced you are I will try to explain things a bit.
"Best" is different for different situations and often a good mix of classes for their passives and buffs is important.
Magcro is currently the best DD class if you are interested in Raids and also very consistent in every patch.
A template for a high-end Magicka Raid comp that can be adjusted for different trials would be:
DK Tank
Warden Tank
Necro Healer
Templar Healer
6 Magcros
1 Magsorc
1 MagDK
Even if it doesn't stay meta because of its damage raidleads will love you because of their ultimate.
This is also true for stamcro but atm Magicka comps are favored over stamina comps because of their stronger cleave damage in bossfigts and access to better support sets.
For races its hard to say atm since next patch things will change.
For Magicka it will probably be Dunmer, Altmer or Khajjit and for stamina it will be Dunmer or Khajiit.
So if you wanna create a character for next patch wait until theorycrafters figured out if it's Dunmer or Khajiit and play a character that you can adapt to both stamina and Magicka groups.
For every other PvE content except Arena score pushing it doesn't matter at all.
I am not a very good PvP player so I can't give you any high level point of view for that but from what I saw and heard stamcro, stamden and Stamsorc are all pretty good. Optimal races are also different for PvP.

JinMori

The absolute best dps? From what i remember since i left the game, high elf mag blade was doing extremely well, also high elf magplar, orc stam necromancer, and also stam nightblade, and stamplar.

Darkstorne

Meta in this game means very little. It's incredibly easy to pull together a build with any class, any race, stam or mag, and a wide range of different gear sets, and still be close to the best possible build on paper (which changes every few months anyway).

You should play the way you enjoy playing, and then figure out how to maximise your DPS around that playstyle. What works for others might not work for you, and vice versa. Plus you're missing one of the best parts of this game if you're trying to chase a meta like other MMOs.

Sunderling

Thank you everyone for the insight, I appreciate it, and it makes sense and I accept it.


I have been playing the game mostly at my own pace, enjoying quests, dialogue, sights and sounds (I mean, really, they NAILED audio in this game? Environments have new sounds every few meters and its very crisp and immersive!)

I have gone through leveling a few times and am now CP 470.

I guess at the end of the day, my real problem was not being able to pick what I wanted to play most.

My High Elf Magsorc is my main... and I love it to death. I only run 1 pet, and I don't even like pets to begin with, but the playstyle of almost all out destruction magic is pretty bomb, and I've only ever really played stam/melee orientated classes in other MMO's.

But my Orc Stamsorc is slowly taking over for me, as the dmg so far seems to be wild. The rotation on crystal weapon is very satisfying once I get it going as quick as possible in my rotation...

But I did also know that Trials are heavy on mag... so maybe my Magsorc might be best for that, and my Stamsorc might be best for dungeons, and my Redguard Stam DK might be best for PvP BG's, and my Dunmner Dark Elf Stam/Magblade might be best for OWPvP....

I think this clears things up for me. I just wanted to main 1 thing, pretty much, and was hoping some kind of overall meta would help me decide that, lol.

At least we can transfer gear from one character to another... phew

Thanks again!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

The real answer is that if you want to play the meta DPS class, you need 12 characters, a stamina and magic of each (or 6 characters and crowns to spend). Most specs have spent their time in the spotlight, some of spent more time there than others. Magic is almost always preferred to stamina for any type of progression groups, but that shifts as people try to push score and move towards stack and burn strats.

Right now, Magcro is really popular because the have a ton of cleave and a great ultimate, but you need one Sorc and a DK for buffs.

Magic NB has always been very desirable because of their ability to sustain and self heal while pulling high damage, but it has probably the most difficult rotation to master.

Mag Sorc is usually not at the top, but they have great survival and a far easier rotation than mageblade. Most players will pull more damage on a sorc than NB.

Stamplar is popular because you could teach a gibbon to break 100k DPS on stamplar. They dont offer much to the group (a group needs one templar and its usually a healer). But the single target damage is strong and easy to pull.

Mag DK has been in and out of the spotlight over the years. There have been metas with 8DK DPS. Currently you need one. Good damage, not a particualrly hard rotation, but not breaking any records. If you want a relatively straightforward DOT rotation, or maybe you just like to play with fire, this is a good class.

All classes are within a few percent of each other in terms of raw damage potential. Meta usually comes down to what raid buffs you can provide, and the devs are always tinkering with these each patch. Impossible to know what that will look like next month or next year. If you dont want to roll 12 toons, find the one you like and master it. Outside of a world record group, a good DPS of any class will always have a home.

Athan1

Darkstorne wrote: »

Meta in this game means very little. It's incredibly easy to pull together a build with any class, any race, stam or mag, and a wide range of different gear sets, and still be close to the best possible build on paper (which changes every few months anyway).

You should play the way you enjoy playing, and then figure out how to maximise your DPS around that playstyle. What works for others might not work for you, and vice versa. Plus you're missing one of the best parts of this game if you're trying to chase a meta like other MMOs.

Best advice I've read in here for a while. Fully agree, meta changes every two months, just do you what you enjoy and do it well. Absolute meta is only necessary for score-pushing and tbh if you reach that point you already know what the absolute meta is.

miguelcura

IneedaDollar wrote: »

6 Magcros

Am I the only one who is nauseous about this? 6 classes necro, it is a total imbalance. The same nausea and desire to play something else gives me that mag is required instead of stam in high end.

shezof

miguelcura wrote: »

IneedaDollar wrote: »

6 Magcros

Am I the only one who is nauseous about this? 6 classes necro, it is a total imbalance. The same nausea and desire to play something else gives me that mag is required instead of stam in high end.

collossus is never not useful

Aznox

miguelcura wrote: »

IneedaDollar wrote: »

6 Magcros

Am I the only one who is nauseous about this? 6 classes necro, it is a total imbalance. The same nausea and desire to play something else gives me that mag is required instead of stam in high end.

That's not a 6 classes necro, that's a 6 months necro.

akdave0

Meta dps or 100k parse doesn’t mean anything if you’re on the ground. food for thought….

paulychan

careful chasing meta in this game. The dev is nutty with the nerf hammer. Straight up nutty.
I do think current bis is Medusa and mothers sorrow with slime and 1 more 1 PC monster with crit. shadow mundus.
I run crafty/willpower/grace/swarm/Dom but I pvp
crafty/bright/maw is super fun too

Jameson18

akdave0 wrote: »

Meta dps or 100k parse doesn’t mean anything if you’re on the ground. food for thought….

Which is where most of the sweaties worried about their 100k+ parse are typically chillin'.

Vevvev

Jameson18 wrote: »

akdave0 wrote: »

Meta dps or 100k parse doesn’t mean anything if you’re on the ground. food for thought….

Which is where most of the sweaties worried about their 100k+ parse are typically chillin'.

Not all of them. There are a few that do have a pair of eyeballs and know what W, A, S, and D do when it comes to avoiding red.

spartaxoxo

Vevvev wrote: »

Jameson18 wrote: »

akdave0 wrote: »

Meta dps or 100k parse doesn’t mean anything if you’re on the ground. food for thought….

Which is where most of the sweaties worried about their 100k+ parse are typically chillin'.

Not all of them. There are a few that do have a pair of eyeballs and know what W, A, S, and D do when it comes to avoiding red.

Most of them do, in my experience. Often when I see them dead it's because someone else messed up and the blame is shifted onto the dps.

Shantu

Though not well received in trials these days, my highest parser is a Orc StamSorc, 2H front bar, dual back.

SirAndy

Sunderling wrote: »

What is the absolute meta DPS Race > Class > Stam/Mag

By the time you get some answers, the next patch will have invalidated all of them.

That's how BiS works. Fractions of a percent will decide what is *it* for the week and what is "utter garbage".

catskin

IneedaDollar wrote: »

...
A template for a high-end Magicka Raid comp that can be adjusted for different trials would be:
DK Tank
Warden Tank
Necro Healer
Templar Healer
6 Magcros
1 Magsorc
1 MagDK
...

This calls for a diversity buff/passive +3% (raid dps) for each unique class. 6 Magcros indeed.