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Dear Traders, you don't get your listing fee back.
Ghostbane
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This maybe common knowledge to some of you, but for the majority of the trading player base ( especially new players ), it is not.
Despite several popular online guides, wikis and addons - you do not get your listing fee back
This came as a shock to me personally when I found this out through some tests, as since launch, I assumed you got the listing fee back. Essentially I was told this by everyone and everything, reinforcing this inaccuracy, which is what also happened with them. A factual error that has snowballed through the years majestically.
Just a heads up!
Despite several popular online guides, wikis and addons - you do not get your listing fee back
This came as a shock to me personally when I found this out through some tests, as since launch, I assumed you got the listing fee back. Essentially I was told this by everyone and everything, reinforcing this inaccuracy, which is what also happened with them. A factual error that has snowballed through the years majestically.
Just a heads up!
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭Item does NOT sell: You DO NOT get the Listing Fee refunded.
Item does sell: Your Listing Fee is refunded.
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Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Item does NOT sell: You DO NOT get the Listing Fee refunded.
Item does sell: Your Listing Fee is refunded.
Your listing fee **does not** get refunded in any scenario.
I encourage you to test it out yourself.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭I do a lot of trading, and every time I sell something my listing fee is refunded to me. I use the addons Master Merchant and AwsomeGuildStore. I am not sure which one lists the Selling fee that is deducted from your purchase price, it also lists the listing fee as a refund.
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Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »I do a lot of trading, and every time I sell something my listing fee is refunded to me. I use the addons Master Merchant and AwsomeGuildStore. I am not sure which one lists the Selling fee that is deducted from your purchase price, it also lists the listing fee as a refund.
Yes, you would be referring to the AwesomeGuildStore mail receipt. Which is actually incorrect.
Here is the example one from the ESOUI page of AGS,
If you actually actually look at it, you'll see it does not make sense in the nature of the listing fee. If the listing fee truly got refunded, you would receive 940g in the mail, and not 930g - which is exactly 93% of the total sale.
This has already been brought the to addon author, who has said they will remove this in the future. In their defence, they got their information from popular sources, which state that the listing fee is returned.
I still encourage everyone to test this out themselves, this changes things.
Also - ZoS, if the listing fee isn't returned, why is it a sink and not given to the guilds?Edited by Ghostbane on January 25, 2021 12:56PM{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
PC - NA - AD
started April 2015
PVE & Solo only
Meet the LOST family: CP 1250+
Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
Okay, now ask yourself why are you taking the listing fee away from the sell value?{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭Does it matter. If they did not list the Listing Fee, you would still get the same amount of gold sent to you.PC - NA - AD
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Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Does it matter. If they did not list the Listing Fee, you would still get the same amount of gold sent to you.
Correct, the sold amount, with the tax reduced.
You still don't get the 10g you spent to put up the listing though.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭The only time you loose the listing fee, is if the item does not sell.PC - NA - AD
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Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »The only time you loose the listing fee, is if the item does not sell.
Well, that is just incorrect. As I've outlined above?
You only get your total sale with tax reduced, returned to you in your mail.
You pay 1% up front.
Tax is 7%.
You only get 93% back. Not 94%{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
Okay, now ask yourself why are you taking the listing fee away from the sell value?
Isn't that because you're supposed to? Or am i missing a step?Edited by spartaxoxo on January 25, 2021 1:27PM0 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Easily_Lost wrote: »Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
Okay, now ask yourself why are you taking the listing fee away from the sell value?
Isn't that because you're supposed to? Or am i missing a step?
Why would you take away the fee from your sell value, whenever you *paid* the fee to begin with?{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭I go off of gold amounts, not percent amounts.
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Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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Umbro100✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »The only time you loose the listing fee, is if the item does not sell.
did never check this. if the item was sold for 1000 gold then you should get 1000 gold + 10 of the listing fee minus the guild tax and zos tax. so 1010 gold minus 35 + 35 which is 940 not 930 gold.3 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »I go off of gold amounts, not percent amounts.
You have 10g in your inventory.
You list an item for 1000g.
You pay 10g to do this.
Someone buys the item for 1000g.
You get a mail with 930g.
930g = 1000g - tax ( 7% ).
If you where refunded the listing fee as well, your mail would have been given 940g
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Easily_Lost wrote: »Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
Okay, now ask yourself why are you taking the listing fee away from the sell value?
Isn't that because you're supposed to? Or am i missing a step?
Why would you take away the fee from your sell value, whenever you *paid* the fee to begin with?
Oh, that's right.
So it's more like...
List Fee: +10 coins
Sell Value: +1000 coins
Trader Total: 1010 coins
So guild trader has 1010 coins worth of your stuff. 1000 coins worth of merchandise and 10 as a list fee.
Then he does the sale.
Sell Value: 1000 coins
Fees: -70 coins
Profit: 930 coins
List Fee: +10 coins
Expected Return: 940 coins
But the list fee thing never happens, right?Edited by spartaxoxo on January 25, 2021 1:39PM2 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Easily_Lost wrote: »Sell Value: 1,000 G
Listing Fee: -10 G
Profit (subtotal): 990 G
Guild Bank: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 955 G
Commission: -35 G
Profit (subtotal): 920 G
Listing Fee(refund): +10 G
Profit (final total) 930 G
The percentage might not be exact, but the Gold amount is correct.
Okay, now ask yourself why are you taking the listing fee away from the sell value?
Isn't that because you're supposed to? Or am i missing a step?
Why would you take away the fee from your sell value, whenever you *paid* the fee to begin with?
Oh, that's right.
So it's more like...
List Fee: 10 coins
Sell Value: 1000 coins
So guild trader has 1010 coins worth of your stuff. 1000 coins worth of merchandise and 10 as a list fee.
Then he does the sale.
Sell Value: 1000 coins
Fees: -70 coins
Profit: 930 coins
List Fee: +10 coins
Expected Return: 940 coins
But the list fee thing never happens, right?
Correct, you only get 930g back. The 'profit' part of your example.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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✭✭✭Wow this thread hurts.Wishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?19 -
Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭I give up.PC - NA - AD
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Meet the LOST family: CP 1250+
Easily Lost Crafter - lvl 50 - Sorcerer Orc ( knows all traits and most styles )
Easily Lost-W - lvl 50 - Warden Imperial
Forever Lost - lvl 50 Sorcerer
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theCampeR_✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »I give up.
Ghostbane is right though. When you try to list an item worth 1000 gold, you pay 10 gold upfront from your inventory. You never get this back regardless of what happens to your item. don't let an addon tell you otherwise.
10 gold is deducted from you inv & when the item sells, it deducts 70 gold fees and gives you back 930. If they refunded the listing fee, you should get 940.Edited by theCampeR_ on January 25, 2021 2:00PM10 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »I give up.
But he's right. The listing fee is not deducted from the item sale, but from your inventory at time of listing. If you don't have enough on you, you cannot list anything.
https://youtu.be/0-ZNZ2O3d2Q
Edit:
The funny thing is that text is misleading but is trying to communicate to you that you won't get it back. It lists it as an cost of doing this transaction, but the order of the text implies it's coming from the sell price itself. That is not the case. Nevertheless it does not double dip and only takes the house fees from the sell price.
Edited by spartaxoxo on January 25, 2021 3:03PM1 -
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✭✭I have never actually heard anyone say it gets refunded. Must just be something from that add on.- Mojican9 -
Feric51✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think this argument is a bit semantic.
How I always viewed it was if I'm listing an item for 1000 gold and paying a 10 gold listing fee up front, my gross return is actually only 990 gold. However, since the tax and trader fees are based of the listed price of 1000 = 70 gold we take those away from the maximum gross return which is this 990 I just mentioned (not 1000).
990 gold - 70 = 920
920 + my listing fee refund = 930.
This whole discussion is based on how you personally view the asking price. It's like markup vs margin in the retail world.
Edited by Feric51 on January 25, 2021 2:39PMFeric51
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I have never actually heard anyone say it gets refunded. Must just be something from that add on.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Guilds
"First, you will be charged 1% of the price you want to sell the item for upon posting it. This collateral fee is refunded to you if the item is sold. "
Its in just about every trading guide out there. Plus since I've got into trading, pretty much everyone has told me that you get this back on an item selling.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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- Greyskull : Customisable, colour-coded Damage Meter
- Auto Research Scrolls : Automatic management of crafting research scrolls
- ITTs Donation Bot : Donation tracker for Guilds
- ITTs Roster Bot : Roster management for Guilds
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think this argument is a bit semantic.
How I always viewed it was if I'm listing an item for 1000 gold and paying a 10 gold listing fee up front, my gross return is actually only 990 gold. However, since the tax and trader fees are based of the listed price of 1000 = 70 gold we take those away from the maximum gross return which is this 990 I just mentioned (not 1000).
990 gold - 70 = 920
920 + my listing fee refund = 930.
This whole discussion is based on how you personally view the asking price. It's like markup vs margin in the retail world.
No because the listing fee is deducted at the time of listing.
You give item worth 1000 coins plus 10 coins. You're deducting the 10 coins from the item, but the listing fee is not deducted from the item value.
Your gross return is 1000 coins, and then the house fees are deducted. What's leftover from that is what is given to you, there is no refund on the listing fee.Edited by spartaxoxo on January 25, 2021 2:43PM8 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think I have the solution to how to make this more clear. They should just update the UI
Sorry I can't do a pretty mockup I'm on mobile. I think if they listed the fees as such it would be instantly more understandable.Edited by spartaxoxo on January 25, 2021 3:10PM0 -
CSose✭✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Item does NOT sell: You DO NOT get the Listing Fee refunded.
Item does sell: Your Listing Fee is refunded.
The listing fee is a gold sink. Ghostbane knows his ESO pretty well, and I'll just leave it at that.
(he's written add ons for the game, for starters) 4 -
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✭✭✭Okay now that I am more awake.
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Seriously, the OP is right, it's always been this way, you never get it back. Is it a big deal? Not really, but misinformation is still misinformation. They got proof right here in this thread and people still don't believe it?
[Edited to remove Flaming]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on January 25, 2021 4:17PMWishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?6
