Aegis Caller set question

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Rowjoh
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While trying out Aegis Caller on a target dummy I noticed that the bleed damage over time part doesn't appear to crit.

Anyone know if this is as intended or not ?
  • zaria
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    No proc set damage crit, it has been like this for years.
    So intended.

    Else how is the Aegis Caller set? Has wanted to try it out.
    Edited by zaria on January 18, 2021 2:35PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • zvavi
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    zaria wrote: »
    No proc set damage crit, it has been like this for years.
    So intended.

    Else how is the Aegis Caller set? Has wanted to try it out.

    it is a weaker rele, but aoe.
  • Rowjoh
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    thanks for the info - never really used proc sets so didn't know.

    I'm no expert but I'd say Aegis ranges from very strong to useless depending on build/content.

    It's useless in PVP as the Damage part is stationary, but in normal and vet dungeons it's quite strong, though I think for vet trials and vet dlc dungeons there are better set-ups for a DD.

    However it is very strong on a Stam Sorc in solo arena's and this is what I'm using for :)
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    It is good in long lasting aoe fights. Or than that there are better options.
  • Grianasteri
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    Rowjoh wrote: »
    thanks for the info - never really used proc sets so didn't know.

    I'm no expert but I'd say Aegis ranges from very strong to useless depending on build/content.

    It's useless in PVP as the Damage part is stationary, but in normal and vet dungeons it's quite strong, though I think for vet trials and vet dlc dungeons there are better set-ups for a DD.

    However it is very strong on a Stam Sorc in solo arena's and this is what I'm using for :)

    Pretty much. I use it on a Stamsorc and he can solo vet dungeons a plenty. Its great for PVE damage and can perform pretty similarly to Relequen, but the damage is a stationary aoe, instead of on target. I use it with Azureblight, with hilarious (and effective) results.

    Many many people who use Rele, arnt getting the benefit of it as they cant keep their stacks up. And even good players arnt getting peak benefit from Rele in heavy add content, as they are constantly switching targets as adds die before they reach max stacks. At least thats what happens to a mere mortal like me. So, with that said, it can outperform Relequen, particularly in add heavy content where its aoe really comes into its own.

    I love it. Even after they nerfed it :(
    Edited by Grianasteri on January 18, 2021 3:58PM
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    Its good for domination, crazy king, and relic for BGs
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  • zaria
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    Pretty much. I use it on a Stamsorc and he can solo vet dungeons a plenty. Its great for PVE damage and can perform pretty similarly to Relequen, but the damage is a stationary aoe, instead of on target. I use it with Azureblight, with hilarious (and effective) results.

    Many many people who use Rele, arnt getting the benefit of it as they cant keep their stacks up. And even good players arnt getting peak benefit from Rele in heavy add content, as they are constantly switching targets as adds die before they reach max stacks. At least thats what happens to a mere mortal like me. So, with that said, it can outperform Relequen, particularly in add heavy content where its aoe really comes into its own.

    I love it. Even after they nerfed it :(
    Yes it sounds easier to handle than Relequen.

    Now Azureblight confuses me far more as in how is it supposed to work?
    The description is totally confusing, is it 20 stacks total or on a target, if later its sounds very hard to proc.
    Most stamina builds only have barrage as AoE DoT but acid spray is also popular.

    Vicious Death would be idiotic fun if it was any target and not players.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Phaedryn
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    Pretty much. I use it on a Stamsorc and he can solo vet dungeons a plenty. Its great for PVE damage and can perform pretty similarly to Relequen, but the damage is a stationary aoe, instead of on target. I use it with Azureblight, with hilarious (and effective) results.

    I threw in Maelstrom Battle Axe with Stampede for good measure :)

  • Gundug
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    zaria wrote: »

    Now Azureblight confuses me far more as in how is it supposed to work?
    The description is totally confusing, is it 20 stacks total or on a target, if later its sounds very hard to proc.
    Most stamina builds only have barrage as AoE DoT but acid spray is also popular.

    Vicious Death would be idiotic fun if it was any target and not players.

    Azureblight works per target in your DOT ability, so each enemy has their own stack that builds up and explodes. With a fully dedicated to tanking warden tank running around 45k health, I can do upwards of 50-60k DPS to large well-clustered enemy groups. I run pretty much all AOE DOTs with the setup and each of them rapidly increase the stacks. If you are just running Endless Hail or Wall of Elements, it’s not going to build up very quickly.
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    Gundug wrote: »

    Azureblight works per target in your DOT ability, so each enemy has their own stack that builds up and explodes. With a fully dedicated to tanking warden tank running around 45k health, I can do upwards of 50-60k DPS to large well-clustered enemy groups. I run pretty much all AOE DOTs with the setup and each of them rapidly increase the stacks. If you are just running Endless Hail or Wall of Elements, it’s not going to build up very quickly.

    @Gundug I was wondering what exactly it means by "each enemy can only gain 1 stack at a time" or however its worded. Is that per dot or what?
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  • Grianasteri
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    zaria wrote: »
    Yes it sounds easier to handle than Relequen.

    Now Azureblight confuses me far more as in how is it supposed to work?
    The description is totally confusing, is it 20 stacks total or on a target, if later its sounds very hard to proc.
    Most stamina builds only have barrage as AoE DoT but acid spray is also popular.

    Vicious Death would be idiotic fun if it was any target and not players.

    So here is the tool tip:

    (5 items) When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you apply a stack of Blight Seed to your target for 5 seconds. At 20 stacks, the Blight Seeds explode, dealing 11100 Disease Damage to the target and nearby enemies. An enemy can only have one instance of Blight Seeds applied at a time. An enemy that has reached 20 stacks cannot be infected with Blight Seed for 2 seconds.

    So, any damage you do that ticks, be it aoe or dots, anything that is doing damage every second for instance, or every 0.5 seconds in the case of the necrotic orbs ;-) this instance of damage, adds a stack of blightseed.

    So, any damage you do that is on multiple targets, aoe or dots, is adding blightseed stacks to each target with every tick.

    On a stamsorc with a bow its easy to lay down multiple sources of damage over time, every one of which is adding a stack each time it does damage, to every enemy target in range.

    Trust me, blightseed fires often and you dont need to think about it, lay your dots down and go back to your spammable LA rotation, its quite effective in general, insane against large groups of adds, even on vet. Great fun.

    ps, you mentioned a stam character having limited aoe dots... my stamsorc uses combinations of the following off the top of my head... endless hail, caltrops, necrotic orb, soul splitting trap, hurricane, there are also a number of single target options.

    Try it and come back n tell us how you got on :)
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