Artorias24 wrote: »I rather have my vampire swarm ult back
I wish theyd just ditch the bone goliath skin all-together and just make our current characters grow larger with either a red or black cloud swirling around them....
I’d take my own current vamp outfit layout over this all day, everyday without question.
I remember suggesting something similar long ago where your character themselves became the Blood Scion instead. So they retained their cosmetics, hair, and body dimensions, but had the claws, three clawed feet, and the outfit of like a Vampire Lord or Blood Knight.
Araneae6537 wrote: »Similarly, the nightblade’s summon shade should either be silent (which seems fine and fitting to me) or the vocalizations needs to match the gender of the summoner!
Paradisius wrote: »The textures definitely need a touch up, it was clear since Greymoors PTS that the Scion as a whole was not entirely finished and was lacking, possibly having things scrapped entirely due to lore devs telling them "No, the players cant be Vampire Lords" and whatnot. The glow is a matter of personal preference (I for one dont mind the aura around the scion)
Ultimately however, Im on the side of others saying that a mortal form with red eyes and a menacing aura would be a big improvement over the Scion in its current state, though since theyd never do that, a touch up would be nice at least.
Araneae6537 wrote: »Unless it is specific to ESO, I didn’t think transformation was a thing for vampires, except for transforming into a bat, but definitely not some hulking monster. Both that and the bone goliath necro ultimate seem both weird and unfitting to me. For werewolves it makes sense and if there were ever a sort of shapeshifter-themed class (but I don’t think that’s a thing so much in ESO, with a few exceptions such as in Bosmer lore).
Araneae6537 wrote: »Unless it is specific to ESO, I didn’t think transformation was a thing for vampires, except for transforming into a bat, but definitely not some hulking monster. Both that and the bone goliath necro ultimate seem both weird and unfitting to me. For werewolves it makes sense and if there were ever a sort of shapeshifter-themed class (but I don’t think that’s a thing so much in ESO, with a few exceptions such as in Bosmer lore).
Vampire transformations have been a thing in the franchise since Skyrim. The lore behind it is that people who contract vampirism directly from Molag Bal get a unique, and powerful strian of it. These individuals are called Vampire Lords and have access to the monstrous Vampire Lord form.
In ESO Vampire Lords are still a thing, but for some lore gymnastics reason we get access to Blood Scion which is less cool in every way, such as the lack of wings, pasty skin, and we even get dumb side flap armour (zos please stop with the side flaps, very few people like them). Oh also the limited transformation time which I'm not a fan of personally.
Anyways lore and opinion expo out of the way, even Skyrim gave female Vampire Lords their own grunt so there's NO REASON (besides laziness) for female Blood Scions to not have their own.
VampireLordLover99 wrote: »
It's also said that people who get the blood from these pure bloods, while the intake process often results in death, much like in skyrim one can be a vamp lord from that too.
Considering Lamae Bal is literally a pureblood and the first vampire, it's foolish to assume she doesn't have her own transformation.
Kinda weird that they seemingly forgot this fact when designing Blood Scion. We absolutely should be vampire lords as we are direct decedents from Lamae bal. Which....very few vampires are turned by her personally considering there's only 1 player character in the world.
Yeah, it's a missed opportunity on ZOS's part since Lamae could have been given a super unique transformation. Like we have Harrowstorm Reapers, Vampire Lords, and Blood Knights which are all vampire forms that are unique with their own separate powers and abilities! Then there's the Blood Scions which are explained away as Vampire Lord mimics and no other thought given to them besides that. Truly a shame.
VampireLordLover99 wrote: »
The worst part is they're explained away as vampire lord mimics.
Instead of even doing the bare minimum and just giving us vampire lords or blood knights like the ones that are already in the game, they create an entirely 'unique' form that is basically shaved off as being 'vampire lords but more lame' no more thought process put into the design than that. Down to the point that our model is essentially the base vamp lord model but without wings and a few small edits that probably took the devs a few days at max to do.
Im pretty sure everyone expected to at least look like the vampire lord that was randomly advertised on the greymoor steam page. Mainly because no other vamp lord looks like that one and it very much strikes me as a 'probably what we were able to turn into once upon a time ago in dev'
Of course there were the peeps that wanted something totally unique and different, but im sure 'vampire lord' was everyone's base expectations after the dev on stage specifically stated 'we'd be turning into one of those' while pointing at the vamp lord statue lol
Considering when they did the reveal of the Dark Heart of Skyrim and the guy was like "Hey, what's that statue there for?" And then they revealed Blood Scion, @ZOS_Finn eluded many of us because while he said we "wouldn't be Vampire Lords" and that we would be "Blood Scions", he never said anything about the forms being different or being altered.
He also said that Supernatural Recovery wasn't going to be touched either and look at how well that aged. While, yes, it was meta for a lot - how these developers speak at these reveal expositions and what actually happens should be taken into account. Misguiding your audience and consumers is akin to lying. Straight up.