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IMPOSSIBLE STEALTH TACTIC in the ESO
AvalonRanger
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Today, I've failed stealth mission. It's just optional, not actual failure. but.....
I think that stealth action may not work in the ESO level design. or there're NO mechanism for stealth.
(ex. tossing brick to pull enemy attention. sneaking on the cat walk or high ground. crawling beneath the cargo or something.)
Dear ZOS. Have you ever play "Last of us" or "Assassin Creed" or other famous stealth action game?
Do you know what "captain Macmillan" is? Maybe, ZOS doesn't know any of those things.
Don't put the enemy everywhere!! Please NO. (lol)
Don't build unreasonable level design for stealth.
or just don't design "stealth optional".
I think that stealth action may not work in the ESO level design. or there're NO mechanism for stealth.
(ex. tossing brick to pull enemy attention. sneaking on the cat walk or high ground. crawling beneath the cargo or something.)
Dear ZOS. Have you ever play "Last of us" or "Assassin Creed" or other famous stealth action game?
Do you know what "captain Macmillan" is? Maybe, ZOS doesn't know any of those things.
Don't put the enemy everywhere!! Please NO. (lol)
Don't build unreasonable level design for stealth.
or just don't design "stealth optional".
My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
with [1Stam Blade].
But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.
2023/12/21
By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".
2024/08/23
Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
with [1Stam Blade].
But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.
2023/12/21
By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".
2024/08/23
Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
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✭✭Are you talking about the thieves guild board quests?Edited by Kwoung on January 17, 2021 8:24AM6 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭Have you ever created a character for stealth? Because from the looks of it, I think not.
Here’s a start: create a khajiit, Particularly a night blade for the Shadowy disguise, Get ‘em to 50/cp160, If you have alt characters, use one of them to get Night terror gear, night mothers embrace or, if you have the Elsweyr expansion, The Vesture of Darloc Brae. Build around those, and you will be so sneaky you’ll be pickin pockets and cracking open safe boxes with your eyes closed. (Metaphorically.)If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.13 -
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✭Learning and utilizing the mechanics for stealth is no different than doing it for a dungeon or trial boss.5 -
XomRhoK✭✭✭✭✭Become a stage 4 vampire and just run. ZOS created content for a game for around 10 years and then introduced one passive that allows you to skip almost all of it...2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »You just need some practice 🙂 it's quite easy once you get used to it
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✭You don't need to be a vampire or a nightblade, have sneak gear or something else cheesy. Unless you make 5+ mistakes in a mission.2 -
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This, you have gear who let you run while sneaking and other who reduce you detection radius.You don't need to be a vampire or a nightblade, have sneak gear or something else cheesy. Unless you make 5+ mistakes in a mission.
All are crafted or overland
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Actually, this game has a very good stealth mechanic. Sort of similar to Assassin's Creed, except for we can't hide in tall grass.
In ESO I have done quite a few quests that demanded stealth, as actually stealthy. And it is really well done. Hide in barrels, walk backwards, check how patrols walk, find hidden routes, stay out of the light, stay out of the enemies sight radius, etc. Though it is very time-consuming, it does actually work really well once you do it right.Edited by Sarannah on January 17, 2021 1:52PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Potions, vampire, or just straight up sneaking and hiding in in the buckets works just fine on non nightblades. I complete sneak missions om my sorc all the time with no trouble. It just takes a little patience.1 -
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✭✭You want to be super undetctble maxium man?
here's how I do it as a nord
equip the following number of pieces from the following sets
Night terror: 3
night mother's embrace: 5
Vesture of darloc brae: 4
those three combined with their stacking sneak detection reduction makes you into a ninja...it also makes you hit like a wet noodle...
combine with vampire khajiit for maxium effect3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Magic Nightblades are the i win button for anything sneaky. With high magic pools you can use the Shadow Cloak ability indefinitely, never needing to actually crouch.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
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✭✭If this is in regards to the Thieves or Dark Brotherhood daily quests I have found once I have learned the layouts and paths the only time I have problems is if I try to rush things. Between sneaking, the hiding places and invisibility potion I rarely fail to make it our before my detection count and run timer expire.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Invisibility potions and vampire stage 4 work in these quests as well. Invisibility potions especially allow you to lockpick strongboxes without worrying about getting seen.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1 -
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This: on a Khajiit with 3*2 meter stealth detection guards tend to not see you, they can even bump into you and push you away.You want to be super undetctble maxium man?
here's how I do it as a nord
equip the following number of pieces from the following sets
Night terror: 3
night mother's embrace: 5
Vesture of darloc brae: 4
those three combined with their stacking sneak detection reduction makes you into a ninja...it also makes you hit like a wet noodle...
combine with vampire khajiit for maxium effect
Now if not an vampire you should replace night mother's embrace with
Night's Silence who is crafted or Shadow Dancer's Raiment who is overland and an magic set.
This let you run at normal speed and the 2 meter more detection is well worth it.
If an magic caracter you still want to be wearing mostly medium armor and have the Dexterity and wind walker passives for cheaper sneak. Stamina potions are also useful here. Yes the dps will suffer but you will only fight the odd npc single so it don't matter.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Vamps ignore torches.?
I guess not, but it's really not that hard to avoid guards with lanterns. In the worst case scenario you'll just need to sit in a bucket for a bit so that the guard can walk past you.
I've done all of those with a dk (night terror+night mother's embrace sets), and it was pretty easy. Even without darloc brae npcs rarely notice you.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Vamps ignore torches.?
I guess not, but it's really not that hard to avoid guards with lanterns. In the worst case scenario you'll just need to sit in a bucket for a bit so that the guard can walk past you.
I've done all of those with a dk (night terror+night mother's embrace sets), and it was pretty easy. Even without darloc brae npcs rarely notice you.
There are tunnels where they are unavoidable, hence why I were curious 😊0 -
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Yes its places you have to wait for the guard to pass.Daemons_Bane wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Vamps ignore torches.?
I guess not, but it's really not that hard to avoid guards with lanterns. In the worst case scenario you'll just need to sit in a bucket for a bit so that the guard can walk past you.
I've done all of those with a dk (night terror+night mother's embrace sets), and it was pretty easy. Even without darloc brae npcs rarely notice you.
There are tunnels where they are unavoidable, hence why I were curious 😊
In the DB missions you might just eat the bounty.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭Invisibility potions (with major expedition for them fast runs), Night Blade Shadowy Disguise to become invisible, vampire's dark stalker passive for faster sneak speed or as mentioned above (Shadow Dancer's Raiment and Night Silence sets), Stage 4 vampire's unnatural movement passive to run past enemies while being invisible, use tab target to see targeted enemies through walls to time your movement, Khajiit feline ambush passive to reduce detection radius, Night Mother's Embrace/Night Terror/Vesture of Darloc Brae to reduce detection radius, improved sneak medium armor passive to reduce detection radius, and Ring of the Wild Hunt just to be faster out of combat in general.
Any class or race can be stealthy in this game with practice.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Eirikir✭✭✭✭I clear those missions all the time and in a DK in 5/2 med/hvy. You just gotta practice and get better.Server: PS4-NA
PSN: Eirikir
Name: Eirikir "Erik" Kololf
Alliance: Ebonheart Pact
Race: Nord (Lycanthrope)
Class: Dragonknight (Range DPS)
Playstyle: Crafter, PVE, PVP, Roleplayer2 -
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✭✭Stealth is fine in this game. It's just a matter of practice. When I did heists and sacraments I did not have my stealth geared vampire khajit nightblade yet and consistently got all objectives and optionals in time after learning the maps. I don't like the time limit combined with stealth detecting snails, it feels so artificial annoyance. But it's not impossible at all.2 -
MerguezMan✭✭✭✭Nigth terror + Night mother + invisibility pots (if you're not NB).
Medium armor passives are not optional to go stealth.
Some thieves/assassins maps are easier than others, but with the correct setup it should be way easier.
Get used to the detection distance, once you have it in mind, you're good to go.0 -
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✭I had trouble with stealth missions on my stamsorc tank in full heavy armor too...
Turns out, if you switch gear (to Darloc Brae + Nights Silence) it's suddenly easy mode.
Still not quite as easy as being a vampire, but it's way better than clanking around in plate mail.
Roguish Stealth Drafts are pretty useful too.0
