I love ESO but i'm very discouraged from playing as a returning Player

Solaire

The title is not as you think... reason is i used to play on EU and now i moved to the other part of the world playing on NA having to start from scratch, ESO not having server transfer is really unbelievable considering MMOs require a lot of time investment and starting from 0 is not easy losing all my characters, gold, items, mats and time i sink into the game because now i live in another country...

We should at least have server transfer for real money if that will encourage them to do it, i will gladly pay a reasonable amount to move all my stuff to another server.

Ofc support can't help u and they wont do anything to transfer ur stuff they will just apologize and push you aside.

Now tell me how the hell do i find the courage to start from 0?

ErythorBloodsheild

How bad is it to play on EU? laggy?

Solaire

ErythorBloodsheild wrote: »

How bad is it to play on EU? laggy?

Pretty bad the Ping is always 300+

Tandor

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

Kwoung

I find it odd they don't allow transfers, many MMO's have offered that for 20 years now. I hear it all the time in my guild, as we get a ton of console converts and their complaints are they lost all their progress, one time limited item purchases, etc...

They should at the very least get to carry over limited time crown purchases and progress like CP and unlocked skill lines, so it is more like starting a new character, not resetting the game back to square one IMHO.

Solaire

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I don't know what's so appealing to do the same thing over and over again just to get back to where u were before, it's fine when u work towards something that u don't have but working towards things u know u had and worked for hard is extremely boring, these things take huge amount of time and i mean a lot... thousand of hours spent playing ESO but hey i can do better now i'm more efficient than i was when i first started but that doesn't justify it.


The least the could do is let us transfer the characters with their levels, CP, skills, unlocks and achievements i can get behind farming for items and gold again but i ain't in hell gonna run all over Tamriel for skills, unlocks and achievements all over again, i have already done that on multiple characters.


Also i don't know how you can play on both regional servers with that bad Ping you're just asking for random teleports and ur hits taking ages to register it's not even playable!

Raideen

I agree OP. People often fail to remember that all of your crown purchases go "poof" which for some people equates to literally thousands of dollars spent. I see no reason why ZOS can't accommodate people who need to relocate to a new server, other games have been doing this for decades, the technology should not be an issue.

I mean at minimum, crown purchases should work both on the NA and EU server.

Vanya

Hm. I was born in EU, I used to play on EU, naturallyi started then I moved to Canada, BC having 43 char and 2 year old account made no sense to start on NA.Connection is fine for me, I do however experience more crashes than usual. PC/NA I barely notice any difference at all. I was afraid same will happen to me and might be forced to start from nothingness again, maybe tis something from with your provider or unlucky spot are you in rural area? I am in Canada,West Coast playing on PC EU Not excellent super smooth but far far from poor as well. I do not blive transfers will ever happen one of the reasons they added Mega server tech.

You should start a new char, ESO is enormous you will experience new tales ,do not be discouraged really make a new race,class start from a new location and embark on new storylinel

Jaimeh

It's really discouraging having to start afresh. I find it's not the CP, those are easy enough to gain, but mostly the lack of gear/achievements/items, and all the little conveniences and collectibles you have on your main account. You'll get there with enough time, but it does suck.

woufff

I started playing on NA Server with Summerset and I agree, it was quite a challenge at the beginning. But as I like to start a new char once in a while, I was not discouraged to start from scratch and that means really from scratch without having millions of gold in the bank and thousands of mats in my craftbag

Nowadays I play on both servers, but not very regular on NA. Have found some good people from NA server also to transfer gold from EU to NA server, doing the same for them.

Everything else is just perseverance

Tandor

Solaire wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I don't know what's so appealing to do the same thing over and over again just to get back to where u were before, it's fine when u work towards something that u don't have but working towards things u know u had and worked for hard is extremely boring, these things take huge amount of time and i mean a lot... thousand of hours spent playing ESO but hey i can do better now i'm more efficient than i was when i first started but that doesn't justify it.


The least the could do is let us transfer the characters with their levels, CP, skills, unlocks and achievements i can get behind farming for items and gold again but i ain't in hell gonna run all over Tamriel for skills, unlocks and achievements all over again, i have already done that on multiple characters.


Also i don't know how you can play on both regional servers with that bad Ping you're just asking for random teleports and ur hits taking ages to register it's not even playable!

I don't have any performance issues on either PC EU or NA and never have had, playing non-competitive content from the UK. Where are you now in relation to the servers and what is the internet infrastructure like there?

Cirantille

I am in the same boat as you. Moving to NA irl.

I love playing ESO but I do not have the time to create all characters, collectibles, achievements, money etc once again on NA server.


I would pay irl money for that type of transfer...

The_Lex

I switched to PC from xbox some time ago. Most of my guild members were going over to PC, but I struggled with that decision because I had more time and investment on the xbox platform than they had. But, I missed them, so I made the switch. I had 830 CPs on xbox; I now have 900. The reason why I only have 900 CPs in almost 2 years' worth of playing is because of larger amounts of time when I needed to step away from the game due to frustration about performance issues. Notice that the people who say they have no issues are the ones who are not doing much besides extremely casual content. That's nice for them, but we should not have to stop doing what we love in the game in order to enjoy it again.

Was it a slog? Absolutely. I might have been tempted to purchase a transfer if it were offered. Was it worth the grind? Yes, at the time. Would I do it over again? Probably not (not even a paid transfer), knowing what I know now about the direction of the game, class balancing, and performance issues in PvP.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

Fresh start! Fresh toon! Welcome aboard PC NA!

Anotherone773

Most games allow transfers depending on big of a pain it is to move you from one server to another. Typically they have a lot of restrictions on transfers. I think the reason they dont do it here is because they think they will make more money off you by forcing you to start over.

Frustrated, from their perspective, you are likely to just rebuy all the stuff you had before and buy things that might be useless to you on the other server like crown scrolls and mount training. You might rebuy all of your crown items. So they see it as a chance to make double off you.

In reality, you are just more likely to quit and go play a different game. Frustrating and annoying customers seems to be a purposeful goal of ZOS...in the hopes they will purchase things to make life easier out of frustration??? But annoying and frustrating customers is a terrible way to retain them. This is a video game. It is suppose to be fun entertainment and ZOS, at times, seem to almost purposefully want to make sure their customers are as miserable as possible.

ZOS has some really weird, outdated, and just terrible marketing strategies. ESO is only a success because its riding on a franchise name and they had to basically redo the entire game to a B2P model to save it. They could be so much more successful and at least double their income off this game is they marketed and ran it right.

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But they rather try to frustrate you into buying all your stuff again on a new server then worry about you actually being happy with products they (over)charged you for.

Elo106

This x100
I started playing on NA when I lived in asia, now I live in EU and the ping is horrible. Not starting from scratch.

I wish the characters would be saved on one server and you just pick where you want to play today NA Eu doesnt matter, same characters on both. Cant be logged in both servers at the same time ofc

Icy_Waffles

Honestly it’s ridiculous that you can’t buy a server transfer. Even if you’re only allowed one a month or something.

Cirantille

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Most games allow transfers depending on big of a pain it is to move you from one server to another. Typically they have a lot of restrictions on transfers. I think the reason they dont do it here is because they think they will make more money off you by forcing you to start over.

Frustrated, from their perspective, you are likely to just rebuy all the stuff you had before and buy things that might be useless to you on the other server like crown scrolls and mount training. You might rebuy all of your crown items. So they see it as a chance to make double off you.

In reality, you are just more likely to quit and go play a different game. Frustrating and annoying customers seems to be a purposeful goal of ZOS...in the hopes they will purchase things to make life easier out of frustration??? But annoying and frustrating customers is a terrible way to retain them. This is a video game. It is suppose to be fun entertainment and ZOS, at times, seem to almost purposefully want to make sure their customers are as miserable as possible.

ZOS has some really weird, outdated, and just terrible marketing strategies. ESO is only a success because its riding on a franchise name and they had to basically redo the entire game to a B2P model to save it. They could be so much more successful and at least double their income off this game is they marketed and ran it right.

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But they rather try to frustrate you into buying all your stuff again on a new server then worry about you actually being happy with products they (over)charged you for.

Yes, I can see the money-making perspective but if it is literally not possible to make time for a start over for a working person... lol

They lose money altogether

So maybe allowing it with restrictions could be good option

Cirantille

Elo106 wrote: »

I wish the characters would be saved on one server and you just pick where you want to play today NA Eu doesnt matter, same characters on both. Cant be logged in both servers at the same time ofc

That would be the dream.

You could play wherever, regarless of time and could find fights, dungeons etc whenever.

Godspeed

Solaire wrote: »

The title is not as you think... reason is i used to play on EU and now i moved to the other part of the world playing on NA having to start from scratch, ESO not having server transfer is really unbelievable considering MMOs require a lot of time investment and starting from 0 is not easy losing all my characters, gold, items, mats and time i sink into the game because now i live in another country...

We should at least have server transfer for real money if that will encourage them to do it, i will gladly pay a reasonable amount to move all my stuff to another server.

Ofc support can't help u and they wont do anything to transfer ur stuff they will just apologize and push you aside.

Now tell me how the hell do i find the courage to start from 0?

Don’t waste your time brother. Until they stop their aggressive content updates and start aggressive performance updates this game isn’t worth playing.

LadyLethalla

I would gladly start from 0 if ZOS ever changed their minds and started an Oceanic server. I'm maybe 300km closer to NA than EU and I've tried both. Little to no difference between them.

Solaire

Tandor wrote: »

Solaire wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I don't know what's so appealing to do the same thing over and over again just to get back to where u were before, it's fine when u work towards something that u don't have but working towards things u know u had and worked for hard is extremely boring, these things take huge amount of time and i mean a lot... thousand of hours spent playing ESO but hey i can do better now i'm more efficient than i was when i first started but that doesn't justify it.


The least the could do is let us transfer the characters with their levels, CP, skills, unlocks and achievements i can get behind farming for items and gold again but i ain't in hell gonna run all over Tamriel for skills, unlocks and achievements all over again, i have already done that on multiple characters.


Also i don't know how you can play on both regional servers with that bad Ping you're just asking for random teleports and ur hits taking ages to register it's not even playable!

I don't have any performance issues on either PC EU or NA and never have had, playing non-competitive content from the UK. Where are you now in relation to the servers and what is the internet infrastructure like there?

Internet is fine in fact it's more than fine my internet is a lot better from the one i had in EU it's just the constant bad ping, talking about server transfer i did a server transfer on Guild Wars 2 which further discouraged me for ESO side of things.

renne

Solaire wrote: »

ErythorBloodsheild wrote: »

How bad is it to play on EU? laggy?

Pretty bad the Ping is always 300+

Lmao in Australia it's that regardless of server. You just live with it if you want to play, or you play something else.

ccfeeling

renne wrote: »

Solaire wrote: »

ErythorBloodsheild wrote: »

How bad is it to play on EU? laggy?

Pretty bad the Ping is always 300+

Lmao in Australia it's that regardless of server. You just live with it if you want to play, or you play something else.

It's about the network issue of Australia or the routing between Australia and ESO server ?

eso_lags

Solaire wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I don't know what's so appealing to do the same thing over and over again just to get back to where u were before, it's fine when u work towards something that u don't have but working towards things u know u had and worked for hard is extremely boring, these things take huge amount of time and i mean a lot... thousand of hours spent playing ESO but hey i can do better now i'm more efficient than i was when i first started but that doesn't justify it.


The least the could do is let us transfer the characters with their levels, CP, skills, unlocks and achievements i can get behind farming for items and gold again but i ain't in hell gonna run all over Tamriel for skills, unlocks and achievements all over again, i have already done that on multiple characters.


Also i don't know how you can play on both regional servers with that bad Ping you're just asking for random teleports and ur hits taking ages to register it's not even playable!

You should just ignore the people who say they dont have performance issues. Even the ones that clarify they dont do anything besides quest or RP or whatever. They continuously say the same thing knowing full well it adds nothing to the conversation because they are players who dont do anything that performance issues would hinder. Such as pvp or trials or whatever.

Everyone has performance issues. It varies depending on what you're doing. And if you dont notice it because you are questing or role playing or trading then fine but for the rest of us it is noticeable, especially for pvp players who have to deal with this abomination of a zone, called cyrodil, to play a game we love.

Solaire

eso_lags wrote: »

Solaire wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I don't know what's so appealing to do the same thing over and over again just to get back to where u were before, it's fine when u work towards something that u don't have but working towards things u know u had and worked for hard is extremely boring, these things take huge amount of time and i mean a lot... thousand of hours spent playing ESO but hey i can do better now i'm more efficient than i was when i first started but that doesn't justify it.


The least the could do is let us transfer the characters with their levels, CP, skills, unlocks and achievements i can get behind farming for items and gold again but i ain't in hell gonna run all over Tamriel for skills, unlocks and achievements all over again, i have already done that on multiple characters.


Also i don't know how you can play on both regional servers with that bad Ping you're just asking for random teleports and ur hits taking ages to register it's not even playable!

You should just ignore the people who say they dont have performance issues. Even the ones that clarify they dont do anything besides quest or RP or whatever. They continuously say the same thing knowing full well it adds nothing to the conversation because they are players who dont do anything that performance issues would hinder. Such as pvp or trials or whatever.

Everyone has performance issues. It varies depending on what you're doing. And if you dont notice it because you are questing or role playing or trading then fine but for the rest of us it is noticeable, especially for pvp players who have to deal with this abomination of a zone, called cyrodil, to play a game we love.

Exactly and me being a hotheaded PvP player is not helping at all.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

ccfeeling wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Solaire wrote: »

ErythorBloodsheild wrote: »

How bad is it to play on EU? laggy?

Pretty bad the Ping is always 300+

Lmao in Australia it's that regardless of server. You just live with it if you want to play, or you play something else.

It's about the network issue of Australia or the routing between Australia and ESO server ?

When is Australia going to get Elon Musk to install 5musk?
Aussie internet troubles are as old as the internet. Hope something moves forward for you guys.

twev

Tandor wrote: »

Lots of people play on both regional servers, myself included although I'm not a competitive player or a min/maxer so starting afresh wasn't an issue for me. Indeed, I have found in both this and other games I've played over the years that starting over on a different server can be a great way to rediscover the fresh appeal of a game.

In any event, the only options are between approaching starting over positively or walking away, given that it's very clear that ZOS aren't going to change their position on transfers so accepting that is part of the positive approach to the situation.

I'd rather just start playing a different game, at that point.

spartaxoxo

Just focus on simple gearing for endgame stuff and PVP on your new char and keep playing your old char for all else. Content that isn't difficult can withstand a bit of lag. It will make it feel less "lost" and moreso for chilling

wheresbes

I wouldn't mind too much having to redo everything, I sometimes like a fresh start! But at least the collectibles should carry over, especially those that people bought with money and those that are impossible to get anymore.

Hallothiel

Whilst I understand about character transfer, there is absolutely no reason why things bought in the crown store (houses, mounts, outfits etc) cannot be shared, seeing as the crowns you have are available on BOTH servers.

Would encourage me to play more on NA server. But no point at moment otherwise.