Universal Magicka Execute

NotFurious

Okay so hear me out. What if the destro staff skill line had an okay execute so that the magicka classes had an execute available? Classes like magcro, magden, and magdk all suffer from a lack of execute in pvp and it makes it really hard to finish fights, especially outnumbered.

PeterUnlustig

Fire Impulse

tsaescishoeshiner

Already exists, albeit not single-target:


Mag Necros and Mag Wardens are two of the top specs for high-level PvP right now, so they don't seem that held back.

I'm not sure how MagDKs are doing, but they can line up plenty of burst as-is. I don't think every class needs an execute. I often don't use mine on Nightblade.

Despite the fact that it sounds like I'm disagreeing lol, I do think a good Magicka execute skill would be nice. Maybe rework Destructive Touch for a 7 millionth time?

Vevvev

Impulse's execute only applies when the target is burning. Thankfully the Pulsar ability increases the chances of applying the flame damage by 3 times, but the execute only effects the bonus damage.

NyassaV

I often forego and execute when I play a magic class and I'm outnumbered because there are other tools I wish to have on my bar. I only use an execute if I'm dueling or maybe in a BG.

tsaescishoeshiner

Vevvev wrote: »

Impulse's execute only applies when the target is burning. Thankfully the Pulsar ability increases the chances of applying the flame damage by 3 times, but the execute only effects the bonus damage.

Oh legit? I guess I read it as applying to targets who are burning and targets who are low health, not both. I'll have to try that out. At least Pulsar is better anyway

Vevvev

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Impulse's execute only applies when the target is burning. Thankfully the Pulsar ability increases the chances of applying the flame damage by 3 times, but the execute only effects the bonus damage.

Oh legit? I guess I read it as applying to targets who are burning and targets who are low health, not both. I'll have to try that out. At least Pulsar is better anyway

tsaescishoeshiner

Vevvev wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Impulse's execute only applies when the target is burning. Thankfully the Pulsar ability increases the chances of applying the flame damage by 3 times, but the execute only effects the bonus damage.

Oh legit? I guess I read it as applying to targets who are burning and targets who are low health, not both. I'll have to try that out. At least Pulsar is better anyway

Awesome, good info ty. That bonus really could be a whole lot bigger

techyeshic

It needs to be able to follow up quickly as well. Not radiant oppression version of an extra global before going off

James-Wayne

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Dracane

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Whirlwind and Executioner for example. There are others like the dual wield passive and poison arrow, though they are as much an actual execute as Pulsar is one.

caperb

Shall we also remove the classes when we're already at it?

JinMori

Dracane wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Whirlwind and Executioner for example. There are others like the dual wield passive and poison arrow, though they are as much an actual execute as Pulsar is one.

Pulsar cannot even compare to stamina executes.

Dracane

JinMori wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Whirlwind and Executioner for example. There are others like the dual wield passive and poison arrow, though they are as much an actual execute as Pulsar is one.

Pulsar cannot even compare to stamina executes.

I was being sarcastic. Pulsar is pathetic.

Eedat

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Whirling Blades and Reverse Slash

josiahva

Magicka DKs have been asking for an execute for years....I doubt it will happen. As for Wardens and Necros...they already have enough other advantages over the other classes they truly don't need one and giving them one would make them incredibly OP in PvE(they already are in PvP)...no other class have access to all those buffs and debuffs. As much as I would personally like to see it happen, I can understand why they wouldn't want to do it.

katorga

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Mag Necros and Mag Wardens are two of the top specs for high-level PvP right now, so they don't seem that held back.

Not to mislead readers, that is due to proc sets, not the classes. If the sets get nerfed, those two go back to bottom of the barrel which is where they were prior to this DLC.

With the current meta an execute is not necessary.

JinMori

Dracane wrote: »

JinMori wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Whirlwind and Executioner for example. There are others like the dual wield passive and poison arrow, though they are as much an actual execute as Pulsar is one.

Pulsar cannot even compare to stamina executes.

I was being sarcastic. Pulsar is pathetic.

Yea i read it again, it was a bit different from what i originally thought.

You basically pointed out that pulsar is as much as an execute as injection or dual wield passive are, which honestly, i would say those 2 are still better than pulsar because of how they work, pulsar is just that bad.

Hexys

#MakeFuryUndodgeableAgain

NotFurious

Vevvev wrote: »

Impulse's execute only applies when the target is burning. Thankfully the Pulsar ability increases the chances of applying the flame damage by 3 times, but the execute only effects the bonus damage.

I'm not going to lie I had no idea this existed lol, I've never seen anyone use it

NotFurious

James-Wayne wrote: »

The bigger question is where is the Stamina Universal execute.

Well for starters, reverse slash and that spin dual wield thing are both executes that can be used by any stamina class

NotFurious

caperb wrote: »

Shall we also remove the classes when we're already at it?

What do you mean? Are you saying to remove them because you don't like them or you think it will take away from the class?

NotFurious

josiahva wrote: »

Magicka DKs have been asking for an execute for years....I doubt it will happen. As for Wardens and Necros...they already have enough other advantages over the other classes they truly don't need one and giving them one would make them incredibly OP in PvE(they already are in PvP)...no other class have access to all those buffs and debuffs. As much as I would personally like to see it happen, I can understand why they wouldn't want to do it.

I never realized you can kill people by applying buffs to yourself. The only reason they are "good" now is because of proc sets, other than that a class like magden is really only ever used for support, in my opinion.

Ratzkifal

NotFurious wrote: »

caperb wrote: »

Shall we also remove the classes when we're already at it?

What do you mean? Are you saying to remove them because you don't like them or you think it will take away from the class?

I think the point they were trying to make was that any universal thing automatically diminishes differences between classes. If every class has access to every buff, an execute, sustain, burst, a stun, an immobilize etc then they are all the same. If all classes are the same, then there is no point in having them around anymore.

A lot of people like class identity and they want more of it. DKs don't have executes; Necros don't have Major Prophecy/Sorcery or gap-closers. The other classes have already lost much of their identity to homogenization or never really had one to begin with (Warden).

That's the point they were trying to get across, I think.